Townhalls Gone Wild - the DVD

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    prfctlefts wrote:




    There is some truth to the GOP reference you made no doubt but I also wanted to say that the guy you were talkling about in one of your earlier post .
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    nd the one guy that was screaming was wearing an airforce hat. guess his tricare standare of tricare for life is good enough for him even though that is government run the same as medicare.

    He said he was a democrat, so really the only point Im trying to make is that there are people from both sides who are pissed.

    and as soon as I can find a link to the whitehouse about them wanting peoples names and email adresses I promise I will post it. Im not some damn loon who would just make this shit up.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/08/07/white-house-collect-fishy-info-health-reform-illegal-critics-say/
    it is a known fact that right leaning media, insurance company operatives and even people in the gop are telling people to take a bus and go to these meetings with the whole intent and purpose of disrupting the proceedings. there have even been accusations that some of these people are being paid to go from place to place and do this. you can not tell me that people are stupid enough or asshole enough to think, "hey my congressman is coming to talk about aging, i am going to gather up my friends, hop on a bus, and yell at him about healthcare and try to change the topic of discussion to health care." without any prompting from outside influences. it does not happen that way. what happens is that idea is planted by someone in the media and the quack who listens to them drags their friends along. this is the same shit as "operation chaos" that rush had his minions go vote democratic to help hillary. as individuals people can be pretty stupid, but get large groups of them together like at these meetings, and it is stupidity on a whole new level.

    and i was referring to the man in the airforce hat in the daily kos video who was yelling. he had "cranks" over his mouth so you can't read his lips. you must be psychic to deduce he is a democrat from that video because there is absolutely no evidence of that in that daily kos video.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

    I read about that program the other day, lookb up <!-- e --><a href="mailto:flag@whitehouse.g">flag@whitehouse.g</a><!-- e -->, although only the conservative sites say spying and reporting your neighbor...the official site says there is a lot of propaganda going around about health care and if you get an email forwarded to you about health care and you think it is inacurate or hear something send it to that email adress. I didn't read anything sating if your neighbor disagrees with me give their name! It seems more like wanting to know what lies they need to counter
    this is the way i interpreted the website as well. there is too many lies about healthcare reform going around that it is impossible to keep up with it. how can the administration constantly defend its policies from attack and criticism if it does not know what people are lying about?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

    I read about that program the other day, lookb up <!-- e --><a href="mailto:flag@whitehouse.g">flag@whitehouse.g</a><!-- e -->, although only the conservative sites say spying and reporting your neighbor...the official site says there is a lot of propaganda going around about health care and if you get an email forwarded to you about health care and you think it is inacurate or hear something send it to that email adress. I didn't read anything sating if your neighbor disagrees with me give their name! It seems more like wanting to know what lies they need to counter
    this is the way i interpreted the website as well. there is too many lies about healthcare reform going around that it is impossible to keep up with it. how can the administration constantly defend its policies from attack and criticism if it does not know what people are lying about?


    I think it's funny to hear this all coming from conservatives. Didn't Bush have a program to report people you thought were suspicious called TIPS or something? Where was Rush then??
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    and i was referring to the man in the airforce hat in the daily kos video who was yelling. he had "cranks" over his mouth so you can't read his lips. you must be psychic to deduce he is a democrat from that video because there is absolutely no evidence of that in that daily kos video

    I've seen the same video on O'rielly as soon as I can find the link I will post it.
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    I heart Scout Niblett wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    I heart Scout Niblett wrote:

    I read about that program the other day, lookb up <!-- e --><a href="mailto:flag@whitehouse.g">flag@whitehouse.g</a><!-- e -->, although only the conservative sites say spying and reporting your neighbor...the official site says there is a lot of propaganda going around about health care and if you get an email forwarded to you about health care and you think it is inacurate or hear something send it to that email adress. I didn't read anything sating if your neighbor disagrees with me give their name! It seems more like wanting to know what lies they need to counter
    this is the way i interpreted the website as well. there is too many lies about healthcare reform going around that it is impossible to keep up with it. how can the administration constantly defend its policies from attack and criticism if it does not know what people are lying about?


    I think it's funny to hear this all coming from conservatives. Didn't Bush have a program to report people you thought were suspicious called TIPS or something? Where was Rush then??

    That's a fact in that back in a 2005 Peace March to End the War In Iraq in DC I saw government agents taking my license and others. Didn't bother to question them mainly because we knew they were doing this from other marches. I figured if they want my license they are wasting a lot of time and tax money.

    Peace
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    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I really miss the days when all that it took to get people fired up was some country bumpkin to say she was "ashamed the President of the United States was from Texas". People got fired up with the "love it or leave it" bullshit and "support the President" mumbo jumbo and the poor Chicks were blacklisted. Now, Rush called the President, "Hitler" and....nothing from this crowd.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I really miss the days when all that it took to get people fired up was some country bumpkin to say she was "ashamed the President of the United States was from Texas". People got fired up with the "love it or leave it" bullshit and "support the President" mumbo jumbo and the poor Chicks were blacklisted. Now, Rush called the President, "Hitler" and....nothing from this crowd.
    yeah i was thinking the same thng. what they did before served their purpose of rallying around the commander in chief. their guy did not win last time so it would not serve their purpose to support obama or anything he has to say.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    It is so obvious that the Leftist think they can do and say whatever they feel appropriate....(take over the country, piss on the U.S.Constitution, and wipes their asses with the American Flag) . I just laugh at those kind of people - just like they do me - in kind. We still all have the right of Freedom of Speech - therefore we still have a right to express our individual opinions. However - this "right" of ours-is quickly waining. And with your rights waining - my rights are as well. I oppose this current Adminstration - for trying to remove our right of Freedom of Speech. I choose Freedom and Liberty. I support freedom of speech.
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  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I really miss the days when all that it took to get people fired up was some country bumpkin to say she was "ashamed the President of the United States was from Texas". People got fired up with the "love it or leave it" bullshit and "support the President" mumbo jumbo and the poor Chicks were blacklisted. Now, Rush called the President, "Hitler" and....nothing from this crowd.
    yeah i was thinking the same thng. what they did before served their purpose of rallying around the commander in chief. their guy did not win last time so it would not serve their purpose to support obama or anything he has to say.

    Truly Leftist "Spin" here Dude. Your mother-love Nancy Polisi started the "Nazi" spin. Fact check your shit prior to posting dude.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • PearlJain
    PearlJain Posts: 565
    PearlJain wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I really miss the days when all that it took to get people fired up was some country bumpkin to say she was "ashamed the President of the United States was from Texas". People got fired up with the "love it or leave it" bullshit and "support the President" mumbo jumbo and the poor Chicks were blacklisted. Now, Rush called the President, "Hitler" and....nothing from this crowd.
    yeah i was thinking the same thng. what they did before served their purpose of rallying around the commander in chief. their guy did not win last time so it would not serve their purpose to support obama or anything he has to say.

    Truly Leftist "Spin" here Dude. Your mother-love Nancy Polisi started the "Nazi" spin. Fact check your shit prior to posting dude.


    You're still in "high" school" coorect? I cannot believe some of the things I read on this webisght. While I realize most on her are Li berals - other postings make my eyes bleed. Congratulations - as my eyes bled when I read your ..........OMG......I don't even have it within myself to be that cruel to you.. Educate yourself - as you sound and write like you are non-educated - nor follow politcs- nor read your liberal-rag of a newsper, nor even switch from "gaming" to otherwise any type of news. You personally are the "country bumpkin" that needs some education. Oh yeah- quit insulting the South, Asshole.
    The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi

    "Empty pockets will Allow a greater Sense of wealth...." EV/ITW
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    PearlJain wrote:




    You're still in "high" school" coorect? I cannot believe some of the things I read on this webisght. While I realize most on her are Li berals - other postings make my eyes bleed. Congratulations - as my eyes bled when I read your ..........OMG......I don't even have it within myself to be that cruel to you.. Educate yourself - as you sound and write like you are non-educated - nor follow politcs- nor read your liberal-rag of a newsper, nor even switch from "gaming" to otherwise any type of news. You personally are the "country bumpkin" that needs some education. Oh yeah- quit insulting the South, Asshole.
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    what the hell are you talking about now? oh yeah, more random pointless drivel that has nothing to do with the thread. i expected nothing less from you. i never said anything about the south. why don't you do something useful like go throw some teabags or disrupt a town hall meeting or something.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,407
    by the way pearl jain, in case you missed it in the last few elections your country has shifted to the left on you and i think that you are having a difficult time accepting it. you should do what we do in a democratic republic, have your side come up with some real options or other ideas that might work better and have people vote for those candidates, or just deal with it. i will now take a page out of the patriot handbook and say "love it or leave it" to you :) .
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Yeah...THIS administration is the one eliminating people's first ammendment rights. Yup. No. Not the previous one that outed a CIA agent because her husband was speaking out about the war. No. This Obama administration is.
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    PearlJain wrote:
    It is so obvious that the Leftist think they can do and say whatever they feel appropriate....(take over the country, piss on the U.S.Constitution, and wipes their asses with the American Flag) . I just laugh at those kind of people - just like they do me - in kind. We still all have the right of Freedom of Speech - therefore we still have a right to express our individual opinions. However - this "right" of ours-is quickly waining. And with your rights waining - my rights are as well. I oppose this current Adminstration - for trying to remove our right of Freedom of Speech. I choose Freedom and Liberty. I support freedom of speech.

    how is Obama taking away your freedom of speech? didn't the last administration dump all over the constitution?
    don't compete; coexist

    what are you but my reflection? who am i to judge or strike you down?

    "I will promise you this, that if we have not gotten our troops out by the time I am president, it is the first thing I will do. I will get our troops home. We will bring an end to this war. You can take that to the bank." - Barack Obama

    when you told me 'if you can't beat 'em, join 'em'
    i was thinkin 'death before dishonor'
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

    I definitely don't want your boss yelling at you, because chances are although you can mess up, you're probably not ruining your boss' livelihood by actively stealing from your him or her, like our Congress does. When you're the boss, and you've tried handling things in a civil manner (and it really isn't working) and your employees are nothing short of absolute criminals, you've got to get angry, profane, whatever it takes before you resort to violence. Class action lawsuits have been filed against our government to redress our grievances, and they are almost always thrown out. I'm not even talking about this birther thing here-- I'm talking about other concerns. I guess what I'm aking is, no matter what you think of these particular people, don't you think there comes a point, sometime after trying calmer methods of trying to get our leaders to listen to us, and before bloody revolution, that a "mob" of people have to remind our elected officials of exactly what their job is, even if there's some volume and a few choice words involved? Or do you just want to skip it and start the revolution? ;)

    Obviously, there is a central government in the scenario I described as the America I'd like to live in. The fact of the matter is, they'd be very hands off. Maroon Van Gestapo forces would be illegal in that society as they are right now. Why do people always think that more freedom would inevitably lead to this kind of tyranny? Doesn't anyone else think that the more rules we create ultimately leads to MORE contempt for the law?


    To me, this is like asking what came first, the chicken or the egg? In some ways, yes, it is funded by the no good dirty government. Take the Federal Reserve for an example-- Special Interests effectively became the government, because government took a complacent role in letting it happen. Who's to blame there? Both of them-- who do you blame first? It doesn't even matter because you're just so screwed either way, why even argue the point? Years later, the same financial institutions are being bailed out by our government-- the same financial institutions that fund campaigns to put their friends in office, and allow these sort of programs to happen. After all, where is the anti-trust law against the Federal Reserve note being the monopoly currency in this country? Round and round we go. The government, when given the power, legislates all these special regulations that actually allow the special interests to play outside of the rules of basic natural law-- such as monetizing debt, fractional reserves, etc... But it's cool-- we can just appoint a few CZARS with some CEO experience, or create a few agencies headed by former bigwigs at these companies to make sure everything is in check, and well-policed!

    I wish this was an actual effective approach, after all, this is EXACTLY what this country has been doing the past however many years-- it clearly doesn't work, and can't for obvious reasons. It is the perfect merger of authority and the greed that uses the authority.

    The bigger government gets, the more inherently corruptible it gets. The bigger companies get, the more greater the chances of them becoming the corruptor. Maybe this is where people from your school and my school differ. I think we can both agree that it is unhealthy for either the government or corporations to control our lives (at least I hope so). I say keep the government's power limited and restricted in its role, so it cannot actually legislate corporations into positions of power by outlawing competition. I'm guessing that you believe it's better to create greater restrictions on how corporations through better watchdogs in positions of authority?

    wow Vinny, lots to chew on here...

    Yeah, I'm one of those regulation type of fellas...just take a look at the recent financial crisis which can be attributed to deregulation...everyone has to have rules and guidelines...

    I guess we differ on taxes...you use the term "stealing"...I don't see it that way...please don't get me wrong, I don't like to pay taxes, but I understand it's for the greater good...even though I may not agree with how all tax money is spent, I accept it for the most part...the US as "socialized" many things, police and fire departments, roads, and schools...heck, many of the idiots at these scream halls don't even realize Medicaid is a gov't run program...

    personally, my "yelling" is done at the ballot box...that's really the only thing I can control...

    I do find in disheartening that some think it's ok to yell, threaten, and curse out those they may not agree with...the funny thing is, Health Care is about health and saving lives...yet some see it as a poison...

    I guess my views about private, for-profit industry is like your view of the gov't...I think they are money grubbin', heartless bastards who care about nothing but the all mighty dollar...when a private, for-profit insurance company denies a claim based on a so-called preexisting condition, even though that person truly needs the medical treatment, that to me is akin to murder...

    either way, I guess we'll agree to disagree...
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    ledvedderman wrote:
    Yeah...THIS administration is the one eliminating people's first ammendment rights. Yup. No. Not the previous one that outed a CIA agent because her husband was speaking out about the war. No. This Obama administration is.

    I think these town hall screamers hate America and if they don't like it they can leave.... ;)

    I also think they are blinded by there hatred for Obama...I'm serious about this one... :(
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    PearlJain wrote:
    PearlJain wrote:
    gimmesometruth27 wrote:
    I really miss the days when all that it took to get people fired up was some country bumpkin to say she was "ashamed the President of the United States was from Texas". People got fired up with the "love it or leave it" bullshit and "support the President" mumbo jumbo and the poor Chicks were blacklisted. Now, Rush called the President, "Hitler" and....nothing from this crowd.
    Truly Leftist "Spin" here Dude. Your mother-love Nancy Polisi started the "Nazi" spin. Fact check your shit prior to posting dude.


    You're still in "high" school" coorect? I cannot believe some of the things I read on this webisght. While I realize most on her are Li berals - other postings make my eyes bleed. Congratulations - as my eyes bled when I read your ..........OMG......I don't even have it within myself to be that cruel to you.. Educate yourself - as you sound and write like you are non-educated - nor follow politcs- nor read your liberal-rag of a newsper, nor even switch from "gaming" to otherwise any type of news. You personally are the "country bumpkin" that needs some education. Oh yeah- quit insulting the South, Asshole.

    Is there a need for namecalling, can't we discuss something gracefully anymore without getting completely unwound?

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    PearlJain wrote:
    You're still in "high" school" coorect? I cannot believe some of the things I read on this webisght. While I realize most on her are Li berals - other postings make my eyes bleed. Congratulations - as my eyes bled when I read your ..........OMG......I don't even have it within myself to be that cruel to you.. Educate yourself - as you sound and write like you are non-educated - nor follow politcs- nor read your liberal-rag of a newsper, nor even switch from "gaming" to otherwise any type of news. You personally are the "country bumpkin" that needs some education. Oh yeah- quit insulting the South, Asshole.

    What the hell are you talking about?
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  • WaveCameCrashin
    WaveCameCrashin Posts: 2,929
    Talk about hypocrisy. the Left has an entire industry devoted to their causes and whatever they care to undermine. Millions of dollars are poured into organization's like Move on,code pink,ACORN, and countless others.It looks like to me that they getting a taste of their own medicine.

    People should be able to state their cases without the personal attacks.I think people need to bring some civillity to the debate. However,organized protest is not Un-American. I find it amusing when I read some of these post like :inmytree wrote "I think these town hall screamers hate america and if they don't like it they can leave" Sounds like some one from the right talking about the Iraq war protesters.

    We all know emotions can run very high when it comes to politics, so IMO it's impossible to know which are spontaneous and which are contrived at these town hall meetings. If you want to know the truth about how Americans feel about health care just look at the latest Rasmussen poll. Most americans now believe Obama's health care vision is not good for them,and all the spin in the world will not disprove that fact.

    I just want them to read the bill and I don't get what the rush is,and If Obama care is so good will Pelosi, Reid,and the rest of congress be on the same plan they are asking us to be on ? :?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    prfctlefts wrote:
    Talk about hypocrisy. the Left has an entire industry devoted to their causes and whatever they care to undermine. Millions of dollars are poured into organization's like Move on,code pink,ACORN, and countless others.It looks like to me that they getting a taste of their own medicine.
    People should be able to state their cases without the personal attacks.I think people need to bring some civillity to the debate. However,organized protest is not Un-American. I find it amusing when I read some of these post like :inmytree wrote "I think these town hall screamers hate america and if they don't like it they can leave" Sounds like some one from the right talking about the Iraq war protesters.
    We all know emotions can run very high when it comes to politics, so IMO it's impossible to know which are spontaneous and which are contrived. If you want to know the truth about how Americans feel about health care just look at the latest Rasmussen poll. Most americans now believe Obama's health care vision is not good for them,and all the spin in the world will not disprove that fact.
    I just want them to read the bill and I don't get what the rush is,and If Obama care is so good will Pelosi, Reid,and the rest of congress be on the same plan they are asking us to be on ?

    for the record...please include the ;) in your post after my statement...(if you need me to explain more about the use of ;) then I will) I'd like the full context of the quote...because for the record, my intention was to point out the hypocrisy of the right who during the rush to war would tell those who spoke out they should leave and that he hate America...funny how things come full circle...

    and I still contend these folks are idiots who are using intimidation to get their views heard...it's simple mob mentality...if you're ok with that, so be it...I'm not...

    and to your point about congress not wanting to be on this plan, that's the beauty of it, the public option is a choice...get it...a choice...

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