Petition for 2/19/92 show

Evacuation Rules

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

troubledsoulsuniteblog

I found the article where Eliason talks about the show.
http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Here are the words:
ELIASON: There're no plans in the works regarding older material, but there have been conversations. I've had fans approach me about shows they can't get their hands on. We were in Zurich in February [1992], in a little coffee shop. So we rented guitars and the band put on this show that was amazing. It was voted best performance of the year for Switzerland. [Fans] have been begging for it because that's not out there.

Unclear if Eliason is saying it's actually not out there, meaning it doesn't exist, or if it's just not out there in the trading community.

Get_Right

something from the yield or no code tours please

given2fly23

Evacuation Rules wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

There is a better version out there than the straight FM, its a mix of the FM and an audience recording, but I know a lot of people here refuse to listen to audience tapes.

pjtradeking

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

I found the article where Eliason talks about the show.
http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Here are the words:
ELIASON: There're no plans in the works regarding older material, but there have been conversations. I've had fans approach me about shows they can't get their hands on. We were in Zurich in February [1992], in a little coffee shop. So we rented guitars and the band put on this show that was amazing. It was voted best performance of the year for Switzerland. [Fans] have been begging for it because that's not out there.

Unclear if Eliason is saying it's actually not out there, meaning it doesn't exist, or if it's just not out there in the trading community.

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Gary Carter

non-entity wrote:

Evacuation Rules wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

There is a better version out there than the straight FM, its a mix of the FM and an audience recording, but I know a lot of people here refuse to listen to audience tapes.

I love audience recordings from the early years of the band. Randalls island and some from the 98 tour sound a lot better than the offical bootlegs of recent years.

RD171825

Thanks for finding it, I knew it was there somewhere

RD171825

I can't help but laugh at the people who refuse to listen to audience recordings. There are some really really good audience recordings and they have only gotten better as the years go by. I think they are just spoiled with all the official boots.

on2legs

pjtradeking wrote:

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Uh... no.

Need I remind you about the 12/31/92 show that was included with the last album. That came from the vault and it was definitely not of the "highest quality".

Although I was happy to get a freebie with the purchase, I was disappointed with the quality. It sounded like an okay audience recording.

But, I still have very high hopes for "the vault"... my fingers are crossed that we get Randalls 2.

pjtradeking

On2Legs wrote:

pjtradeking wrote:

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Uh... no.

Need I remind you about the 12/31/92 show that was included with the last album. That came from the vault and it was definitely not of the "highest quality".

Although I was happy to get a freebie with the purchase, I was disappointed with the quality. It sounded like an okay audience recording.

But it was still higher quality than what we had in circulation already correct??

RD171825 wrote:

I can't help but laugh at the people who refuse to listen to audience recordings. There are some really really good audience recordings and they have only gotten better as the years go by. I think they are just spoiled with all the official boots.

But, I still have very high hopes for "the vault"... my fingers are crossed that we get Randalls 2.

I have a friend that is like that. Wont listen to anything pre 2000 really. Just says he cant do it. I dont even offer them to him anymore. Sad to , cause as you and others have said, there are some VER NICE aud recordings out there. Hell even the ones that suck are still kinf of cool to bust out every once in a while and go old school!! imho anyhow! ;-)

RD171825

98 tour has some of the best aud recordings ive ever heard.

given2fly23

On2Legs wrote:

Need I remind you about the 12/31/92 show that was included with the last album. That came from the vault and it was definitely not of the "highest quality".

uh, no, that DID NOT come from The Vault. that source had been circulating in the trading community for many years, and on top of it, there were flawed transitions (between tracks). do not judge The Vault recordings by 12/31/92. If any of you heard the Vegas 1993 show or the "Rats" from Orpheum, that is what I expect from The Vault (but in FLAC).

RD171825 wrote:

I can't help but laugh at the people who refuse to listen to audience recordings. There are some really really good audience recordings and they have only gotten better as the years go by. I think they are just spoiled with all the official boots.

not to mention that you cannot possibly know the history of this band without listening to their shows. a lot of what was said between songs or the mood of how the band performed tells you what was going on at that time. I will again reference the January 1995 Constitution Hall shows, and Ed's somber tone, and what he says about Dave and Jack, he was truly connected to the fans back then and those were very emotional shows for him because of the cause and the people he was surrounded by (IMO).

people who refuse to listen to the pre-2000 shows are really missing out, because this band will never be what it was from 1994-1996, just ripping, passionate performances night in and night out.