Petition for 2/19/92 show

RD171825

I'm starting a petition for this show to be release as part of the vault shows that can be downloaded buy purchasing Backspacer. Its currently not in circulation amongst the trading community. Below is taken from twofeetthick.

02/19/92 - Albani Bar of Music: Winterthur, Switzerland (acoustic)
notes: Finding themselves in a venue with an extremely tiny stage, PJ elects to rent acoustic guitars and Dave sets up a kick drum and bongo, going for an acoustic show. The latter part of the set becomes a jam session. Even in this small space, Ed climbs to the second floor, goes over all of the spectators’ heads and falls into the crowd on the main floor.

SolarWorld

Looks like more of a novelty show to me. Not something I want out of the vault. Sorry.

RD171825

I'd rather have some shows that aren't widely available or have poor sounding sources circulating. I don't want the usual Atlanta 94, Soldier Field 95, Melbourne 98 etc.... There are already soundboards/FM sources that are easily available.

troubledsoulsuniteblog

RD171825 wrote:

I'm starting a petition for this show to be release as part of the vault shows that can be downloaded buy purchasing Backspacer. Its currently not in circulation amongst the trading community. Below is taken from twofeetthick.

02/19/92 - Albani Bar of Music: Winterthur, Switzerland (acoustic)
notes: Finding themselves in a venue with an extremely tiny stage, PJ elects to rent acoustic guitars and Dave sets up a kick drum and bongo, going for an acoustic show. The latter part of the set becomes a jam session. Even in this small space, Ed climbs to the second floor, goes over all of the spectators’ heads and falls into the crowd on the main floor.

Hey RD. There's no known recording of the show. It's not in the trading community, because I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. If no one had recording equipment at the show, there's nothing we can do about it 17 years later

given2fly23

SolarWorld wrote:

Looks like more of a novelty show to me. Not something I want out of the vault. Sorry.

what does that mean? it's a unique show? yeah, no kidding, that's why it is the holy grail of Pearl Jam tapes.

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

Hey RD. There's no known recording of the show. It's not in the trading community, because I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. If no one had recording equipment at the show, there's nothing we can do about it 17 years later

it exists...in the vault. Brett Eliason confirmed this in an interview a few years ago.

to the OP, I started a similar thread a while back and there was no support. most people here would rather see 4/3/94 released than a special show like this.

I'm with you though. I hope PJ does this vault thing right with these 11 shows we are about to get access to, meaning unique, uncirculated shows, in FLAC, and complete and unedited.

EDIT: here is my thread from Dec 2008, you can see how far it got:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17421&p=17421#p17421

starmap3333

I'd like Rochester, NY from 1994... April 5th maybe it was...
the next day, they annouced Cobain's death if I remember correctly.

given2fly23

starmap3333 wrote:

I'd like Rochester, NY from 1994... April 5th maybe it was...
the next day, they annouced Cobain's death if I remember correctly.

4/7/94. widely available. great show, great recording.

See RD, this is what you deal with. people just want the shows they were at to be released, rather than stuff that isnt out there at all.

what I would give for the South East Asia/Australia/NZ shows from 1995 that arent in circulation to be released.

RD171825

As non-entity said the 2/19/92 Zurich show does exist. I remember reading that interview with Brett awhile back and he confirmed it. Remember the band records everything.

Indeed that 95 Pacific rim shows would be nice to have. I'm sure the band is well aware of what shows are in circulation in the trading community. I have hundreds of PJ shows and would love to upgrade some of the lower quality sources with some good soundboard recordings. The more common soundboards/FM boots are available easily at anyones finger tips.

TheDecline13

RD171825 wrote:

I'm starting a petition for this show to be release as part of the vault shows that can be downloaded buy purchasing Backspacer. Its currently not in circulation amongst the trading community. Below is taken from twofeetthick.

02/19/92 - Albani Bar of Music: Winterthur, Switzerland (acoustic)
notes: Finding themselves in a venue with an extremely tiny stage, PJ elects to rent acoustic guitars and Dave sets up a kick drum and bongo, going for an acoustic show. The latter part of the set becomes a jam session. Even in this small space, Ed climbs to the second floor, goes over all of the spectators’ heads and falls into the crowd on the main floor.

Why does this sound familiar to me?? Im missing like 30 shows from 1990 to 2008. I wonder if this is one of them.. Im on board for this to be that to be an extra... Also either of the randalls island shows from 96 would be killer, the sources for them suck for video and audio...

RD171825

Its one of them for sure, there is no known recording of this show.

demetrios

Nothing listed over at db.etee.org. No collector has it ...

TheDecline13

then we gather with pitch forks and torches!!!!!

demetrios

TheDecline13 wrote:

then we gather with pitch forks and torches!!!!!

I'll bring the pitch forks! Kinda scared of those torches! :oops:

joe2468

non-entity wrote:

SolarWorld wrote:

Looks like more of a novelty show to me. Not something I want out of the vault. Sorry.

what does that mean? it's a unique show? yeah, no kidding, that's why it is the holy grail of Pearl Jam tapes.

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

Hey RD. There's no known recording of the show. It's not in the trading community, because I'm pretty sure it doesn't exist. If no one had recording equipment at the show, there's nothing we can do about it 17 years later

it exists...in the vault. Brett Eliason confirmed this in an interview a few years ago.

to the OP, I started a similar thread a while back and there was no support. most people here would rather see 4/3/94 released than a special show like this.

I'm with you though. I hope PJ does this vault thing right with these 11 shows we are about to get access to, meaning unique, uncirculated shows, in FLAC, and complete and unedited.

EDIT: here is my thread from Dec 2008, you can see how far it got:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=17421&p=17421#p17421

am i missing something ......what 11 shows are they going to release and when did they say this ????? i know i was away from my pc this weekend...WHAT DID I MISS

SolarWorld

non-entity wrote:

what does that mean? it's a unique show? yeah, no kidding, that's why it is the holy grail of Pearl Jam tapes.

It means I want to choose from quality shows and quality recordings, not some BS pocket recording tapers wet themselves over because no one has it OR some fuck off show by the band. Get it?

troubledsoulsuniteblog

Where and when did Eliason say this show was recorded?

SolarWorld

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

Where and when did Eliason say this show was recorded?

In a wet dream of a bootleg taper.

RD171825

The show does exist, its not some wet dream. There was an interview done with Brett Eliason a few years back about the vault and he mentioned the demand for this show. The band recorded it so its out there, I'm trying to find the interview and will post it when I do.

given2fly23

RD171825 wrote:

The show does exist, its not some wet dream. There was an interview done with Brett Eliason a few years back about the vault and he mentioned the demand for this show. The band recorded it so its out there, I'm trying to find the interview and will post it when I do.

RD, I believe it was called "Ten Past Ten" or something like that.

Ledbetterman10

RD171825 wrote:

I'd rather have some shows that aren't widely available or have poor sounding sources circulating. I don't want the usual Atlanta 94, Soldier Field 95, Melbourne 98 etc.... There are already soundboards/FM sources that are easily available.

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks). I want stuff from the 1996 tour.

stuckinline

i would like the 2/19/92 show!!!!!!

Evacuation Rules

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

troubledsoulsuniteblog

I found the article where Eliason talks about the show.
http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Here are the words:
ELIASON: There're no plans in the works regarding older material, but there have been conversations. I've had fans approach me about shows they can't get their hands on. We were in Zurich in February [1992], in a little coffee shop. So we rented guitars and the band put on this show that was amazing. It was voted best performance of the year for Switzerland. [Fans] have been begging for it because that's not out there.

Unclear if Eliason is saying it's actually not out there, meaning it doesn't exist, or if it's just not out there in the trading community.

Get_Right

something from the yield or no code tours please

given2fly23

Evacuation Rules wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

There is a better version out there than the straight FM, its a mix of the FM and an audience recording, but I know a lot of people here refuse to listen to audience tapes.

pjtradeking

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

I found the article where Eliason talks about the show.
http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/art ... n801.shtml

Here are the words:
ELIASON: There're no plans in the works regarding older material, but there have been conversations. I've had fans approach me about shows they can't get their hands on. We were in Zurich in February [1992], in a little coffee shop. So we rented guitars and the band put on this show that was amazing. It was voted best performance of the year for Switzerland. [Fans] have been begging for it because that's not out there.

Unclear if Eliason is saying it's actually not out there, meaning it doesn't exist, or if it's just not out there in the trading community.

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Gary Carter

non-entity wrote:

Evacuation Rules wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

I agree (even though I think the Soider Field soundboard sucks).

The *circulating* soundboard sucks because it's a mono FM broadcast. The band's recording is surely better.

There is a better version out there than the straight FM, its a mix of the FM and an audience recording, but I know a lot of people here refuse to listen to audience tapes.

I love audience recordings from the early years of the band. Randalls island and some from the 98 tour sound a lot better than the offical bootlegs of recent years.

RD171825

Thanks for finding it, I knew it was there somewhere

RD171825

I can't help but laugh at the people who refuse to listen to audience recordings. There are some really really good audience recordings and they have only gotten better as the years go by. I think they are just spoiled with all the official boots.

on2legs

pjtradeking wrote:

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Uh... no.

Need I remind you about the 12/31/92 show that was included with the last album. That came from the vault and it was definitely not of the "highest quality".

Although I was happy to get a freebie with the purchase, I was disappointed with the quality. It sounded like an okay audience recording.

But, I still have very high hopes for "the vault"... my fingers are crossed that we get Randalls 2.

pjtradeking

On2Legs wrote:

pjtradeking wrote:

troubledsoulsuniteblog wrote:

It is not secret and has been discussed at length over the years, that PJ have recorded EVERY show they have ever done, either audio or video or both. So anything that comes from THEM, I would imagine would be of the highest quality. I dont know how things like this hold up in vaults over the yeras, but I would imagine that anything we DO have to date, if it hasnt come from the band will not be as good as anything from the vault, no?

Uh... no.

Need I remind you about the 12/31/92 show that was included with the last album. That came from the vault and it was definitely not of the "highest quality".

Although I was happy to get a freebie with the purchase, I was disappointed with the quality. It sounded like an okay audience recording.

But it was still higher quality than what we had in circulation already correct??

RD171825 wrote:

I can't help but laugh at the people who refuse to listen to audience recordings. There are some really really good audience recordings and they have only gotten better as the years go by. I think they are just spoiled with all the official boots.

But, I still have very high hopes for "the vault"... my fingers are crossed that we get Randalls 2.

I have a friend that is like that. Wont listen to anything pre 2000 really. Just says he cant do it. I dont even offer them to him anymore. Sad to , cause as you and others have said, there are some VER NICE aud recordings out there. Hell even the ones that suck are still kinf of cool to bust out every once in a while and go old school!! imho anyhow! ;-)