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The show some love for "Avocado" thread

F5F5 Posts: 791
edited August 2009 in The Porch
I get tired of everyone bashing on this album. I really don't understand what people have against it. Call me crazy but its my personal favorite. Some people just can't let go of the Ten era I guess....
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  • youngsteryoungster Boston Posts: 6,576
    Agreed. I admit it's not my favorite, it is truly a great album. Took me a while to war up to it but for a couple years now I have thought it is one of their best. No Code still holds true as my fave though.
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  • Red Mosquito75Red Mosquito75 Moline IL Posts: 1,037
    yeah...I listened to it from beginning to end last night....I kept thinking to myself that this is not as bad as I thought...I think it is a pretty good album
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  • julesandianjulesandian Posts: 487
    mitchmoore2 wrote:
    I get tired of everyone bashing on this album. I really don't understand what people have against it. Call me crazy but its my personal favorite. Some people just can't let go of the Ten era I guess....

    Totally agree, but I'm not sure that its the Ten era that is the problem, I'm from that era and for me I love Ten, Vs, Vitalogy, No Code, I like Yield, and then Binaural and Riot Act I have never held as highly but Avacado for me was right up there with Ten, Vs and No Code (my favs)

    Don't get me wrong, I think there are truly great songs on every album, but I like to listen to an album as a whole and Avacado hits all the right spots for me.
  • bettieleebettielee Posts: 74
    One of my favorites, have many songs on my "best of pj" list

    I love : Green Disease, Life Wasted, World Wide Suicide, Comotose, Marker, GONE! Favorite!, Come Back makes me cry everytime I hear it, and Inside Job. I don't understand what's not to like.
  • yield2meyield2me Posts: 1,291
    Avocado is a masterpiece
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  • F5F5 Posts: 791
    Lovin this thread! :D
    Bridge - 10/25/03
    Mansfield I - 6/28/08
    Eddie NYC - 8/4/08
    Seattle - 9/21/09, 9/22/09
    Salt Lake City 9/28/09
    LA 9/30/09, 10/07/09
    San Diego 10/9/09
    Alpine Valley 9/03/11, 9/04/11
    Ashbury Park 9/18/21
    LA 5/06/21, 5/07/21
    Phoenix 05/09/22
    NYC 9/11/22
    Denver 9/22/22
  • 12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    Unemployable and Big Wave are amazing. Especially Big Wave live.

    12/2/06 is a sick as hell boot from that tour BTW
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  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    I like it better than both Binaural and Riot Act.
  • pjamaholicpjamaholic Posts: 1,225
    bettielee wrote:
    One of my favorites, have many songs on my "best of pj" list

    I love : Green Disease, Life Wasted, World Wide Suicide, Comotose, Marker, GONE! Favorite!, Come Back makes me cry everytime I hear it, and Inside Job. I don't understand what's not to like.

    Green Disease is on Riot Act. I love the Avocado and it's probably my most played PJ album to date. There's nothing on it not to like. My 2 favourites are Army Reserve and Marker in the Sand. I've heard the whole album live except for Parachutes.
  • Black-12Black-12 Posts: 249
    Avacado Is my favorite since Vitology. I like it much better then Riot Act or Binoral. Lot's of heart felt songs, this album struck a cord with me.
  • GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,654
    yield2me wrote:
    Avocado is a masterpiece

    +1. Perfect wording.
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  • Sleep.With.InnocenceSleep.With.Innocence Posts: 607
    Honestly, this record is full of gems.

    Life Wasted
    World Wide Suicide
    Severed Hand
    Unemployable
    Gone
    Wasted Reprise
    Army Reserve
    Come Back
    Inside Job

    I really feel like those are the strongest three songs Pearl Jam has ever finished an album with.
  • Gary CarterGary Carter Posts: 14,067
    I only listen to avocado when I wanna go for a good afternoon drive with the soft top off on my jeep.
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  • Pearl JamesPearl James Pittsburgh/Chicago Posts: 435
    Its one of my favorite listens, its an album I can put on and not have to skip a song, except Parachutes :?

    But the first 5 songs, absolutely awesome, Severed Hand, a masterpiece, live and on the album, the intro rocks, lyrics rock, solo rocks!
  • Black1991Black1991 Posts: 122
    I love avocado its right up there for me i really appreciated that album after a few months it kept growing on me, avocado yield and ten my top 3
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,941
    I would have liked a tight ending on Life Wasted but ya can't win 'em all. I also think that Wasted Reprise would have worked good as a closing track...maybe even as a secret track after Inside Job.
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  • DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    certainly not my favorite album, but it is FANTASTIC! as is every pj album. i don't understand people's problems with it either. but how amazing is this album live!? i swear every song on this album is 90X better live.
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  • YieldToNothingYieldToNothing Posts: 3,667
    it is an amazing collection of songs.


    mr kasper could've done a better job with the recording though.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    edited August 2009
    songs i loved or liked when i first heard Avocado:

    Severed Hand
    Parachutes
    Comatose
    Life Wasted

    songs i love or like now:

    Severed Hand
    Parachutes
    Comatose
    Life Wasted

    this album hasnt really grown on me like the others, but its ok. the first half has some nice straightforward rockers that, if nothing else, are fun live. i dont like the entire second half of the album (except maybe Wasted Reprise). musically, its safe and adult contemporary. lyrically, it sounds like Ed is singing articles he is reading in a newspaper.
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  • CratePilotCratePilot Posts: 173
    Yep .... Avocado appears to be getting a lot of negative comments over the last few weeks here. It's one of those rare albums that I actually enjoy without getting the urge to skip a track or two. Not PJs finest but it definitely deserves more love than it's been getting recently ..... and thanks to this thread .... it's now getting it :D
  • Rossum20Rossum20 Posts: 910
    It's no Backspacer
  • JammalamboJammalambo Posts: 1,321
    mitchmoore2 wrote:
    I get tired of everyone bashing on this album. I really don't understand what people have against it. Call me crazy but its my personal favorite. Some people just can't let go of the Ten era I guess....

    I'm sorry, but it's hard to defend this album.. Cheesy, generic songs and bad mixed..
    and please, let's stop this bullshit that if you don't like Avocado or one of their new songs, you only like ten, vs and vitalogy..
    I personally think Binaural is a hugely underrated masterpiece, and Riot act don't get the love it deserves..
    but man, avocado is their worst album, I understand one can have different tastes in music, but avocado.. stinks
  • HeavyHandsHeavyHands Posts: 2,130
    I've liked this album a lot since I first heard it. To me it was somewhat of a relief after hearing Riot Act. I know there's a lot of love for RA on this board so no one take anything personally but... RA, to me, is a boring listen after Ghost (yes there are a few exceptions). It just doesn't do much for me. Hearing the band rock out again on S/T was a pleasure.
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  • morgie2morgie2 Posts: 1,065
    Black1991 wrote:
    I love avocado its right up there for me i really appreciated that album after a few months it kept growing on me, avocado yield and ten my top 3

    One of my favorites too. Brought me back into the fold, which I left after Vitalogy. Glad it did, because I love all their albums now.
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  • asgoodasedasgoodased Posts: 109
    Life Wasted (as well as the Reprise)
    Severed Hand
    Come Back

    Best three song set on any album since No Code (imo)

    Life Wasted is the first "rocker" that I'm truly pumped about when its played in concert since "Hail, Hail" - in fact you can hear me in the background screaming on the boot from Grand Rapids after they play it....
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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    i hate parachutes but other than that self titled is a great album!! I liked it from day one!

    gone & army reserve are my 2 favorites.
  • pleathermanpleatherman Posts: 472
    MrGibbons wrote:
    yield2me wrote:
    Avocado is a masterpiece

    +1. Perfect wording.


    I'm going to have to agree with you on that. Avocado was an album long time coming. They were really trying to nail the live performance aspects into their studio work in a way that hasn't been attempted since Vs. Unlike Vs., self-titled flawlessly incorporates the brashness of punk to give it more urgency. Since Matt Cameron started playing with them in '98, I've felt their live sound reached an all-time high. Avocado showcases that sound front to back.
  • mosquitomanmosquitoman Posts: 16
    Yeah, people are a bit harsh on the avacado. I love all of Pearl Jam's albums... I tried to rank them in order of preference and I just can't... how can i possibly put a pj album in last place haha!

    Anyway... there are some awesome tracks on the avacado... life wasted, severed hand, marker, parachutes, army reserve, come back and inside job are all great! the album has a sort of urgency that a lot of people were clamouring for after the more laid back nature of parts of riot act... (or at least that's the noises that were being made when it came out) The rockers on the album are a lot of fun... and really fantastic live... check out the first three songs off imagine in cornice! and come back and inside job are fantastically emotional as closers of the album!

    The production lets it down slightly for me though... kasper just isn't as good as brendan o'brien (although i love the way riot act sounds) I think it stands up well with the rest of the back catalogue and it was the album they needed to make after four years away (from making studio albums)
    listen to the voice inside, so drowned out
  • kiljoythemercifulkiljoythemerciful Posts: 549
    Not my favorite album, but I will agree a couple of the songs are great live. The production on the album lacks, but there are some great songs.
  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    The first five songs are killer. The album switches tempos and loses some momentum after that, but there's still some great songs, like "Inside Job".
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