Vick reinstated by the NFL Anybody care?
noahgenda
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I really don't like the guy. thought he was an average player before he was arrested then banned
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I also agree in that he was very much an average QB. Take away his running and he was a horrible QB.
Wherever he goes, I'm sure he's going get an earful.
Just keep him away from my dogs. :evil:
I agree...
I'll be interested to see which team (if any) signs him... He could help some teams on the field, but talk about bringing the circus to town.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
The poison from the poison stream caught up to you ELEVEN years ago and you floated out of here. Sept. 14, 08
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was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
So anyone that goes to jail should never be allowed to work again? Or just not in certain jobs? I just want to be clear.
I could care less about Vick, but I don't like how Goodell handled the reinstatement... Either suspend him for a number of games or don't. I can't see how after all this time, he still is hesitant on making a firm decision.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Yeah, I didn't catch the whole story, so it was a tentative suspension? Just suspend the fucker for six games and be done with it.
Here's how the ESPN.com article described it.
I guess Goodell is waiting to see how Vick handles it or what the PR reaction is...
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
That's not even close to what I said.
In this particular case.... This guy tortured and killed animals. There's no excuse for that kind of evil behavior. Should he given the right to make a living again? Sure. But being in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. I don't think he should be granted the privilege to "earn" his living in a position that makes him rich and famous, and in which he is a role model. Players are essentially spokesmen for the NFL. Plenty of spokesperson contracts have been dropped for far less.
I don't get the "it's a privilege to play in the NFL" line of thinking... If Vick was a computer programmer for Microsoft, and they gave him a job after serving time, would you say that it's a privilege to work at Microsoft and he shouldn't be given that privilege back.
And while you put it in quotation marks, professional athletes do earn a living... SInce high school age, they have spent just as many if not more hours into developing their talents to get their job, than you or I have. While their salaries are out of whack compared to most other jobs, they have definitely earned their right to be in the position that they are in.
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Peace
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Just wait til he goes to Cleveland's Dog Pound.
Hail, Hail!!!
agreed
By Diane Pucin
10:19 PM PDT, July 27, 2009
Reporting from Kanab, Utah -- Your head says Michael Vick has served his time, has suffered some punishment for his horrific involvement in a dogfighting ring and that people who have committed more serious crimes are allowed to leave prison and go back to work.
Your heart, though, remembers a May day in a large and airy kennel here at Best Friends Animal Society, and Georgia, one of the unlucky members of Vick's Bad Newz Kennels, where she was taught to fight and then, because she was so good at that, had all her teeth pulled -- by a veterinarian. That way she could serve her time as a breeding bitch, whether she wanted to or not.
Your head says from a legal standpoint it is wrong to keep Vick from playing football this season for an NFL team if a team wants him. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell announced Monday that Vick is immediately eligible to practice with an NFL team and can play in the final two exhibition games, with the idea that he may be fully eligible to play in the NFL by mid-October. Otherwise, your head says, what's the point of thinking our justice system works?
Your heart, though, remembers listening to John Garcia, Georgia's main trainer at Best Friends, talk about the worst parts of life for Georgia and her Bad Newz Kennel mates. About how some of the dogs were swung around by the neck and killed for not fighting or not fighting well enough. About how they were beaten and forcibly bred on something called the "rape stand."
Think about that.
Your head says, these are animals after all, not humans, and pro athletes and others in our society have killed humans -- by accident or with malice -- were imprisoned for their crime, served sentences and came back to society.
My heart, though, is at home with a dog named Dillon, who has cancer, who is undergoing experimental chemotherapy and whose spirit and happiness and daily anticipation of the good things in life put a lot of humans to shame, even as he suddenly loses a little hair around the ears.
That's what the sweet pit bull named Georgia teaches people who come to see her.
Georgia, with her toothless grin and her wiggly butt and her desire to kiss anyone and everyone, has become a goodwill ambassador. She puts on a bejeweled pink collar, is hooked on to her pink leash, and Garcia takes her around the country to show how even the fiercest fighting dog can be taught something else.
All Georgia wants is to please people. When her people wanted her to fight, she did. Now when her people want her to make kids giggle and to have adults marvel at her capacity to enjoy life, she does.
Outspoken Buffalo Bills wide receiver Terrell Owens has the right to his opinion given to reporters in Buffalo over the weekend.
"I think the way the commissioner is handling it is unfair to Michael Vick," Owens said. "I think he's done the time for what he's done. I don't think it's really fair for him to be suspended four more games. It's almost like kicking a dead horse in the ground."
Did anyone else's stomach turn at that phrase?
At Best Friends, Garcia sat on the ground in Georgia's kennel and spoke eloquently about Vick's dogs.
"How they were treated," Garcia said, "humans shouldn't be capable of that."
Garcia said his head told him Vick should one day be able to have a job.
"But is it his right to make millions of dollars?" Garcia asked. "I guess it is."
While he spoke, Georgia had run to the far end of her kennel, under a shady tree. She shook her head as if to signal John and a visitor that they should come to the cool place. So we did and she settled down for some petting time.
Should Vick play in the NFL again?
This heart says no, which makes it much less forgiving than Georgia's. She most certainly would give Vick a second chance. She's given all of us humans one. In that way, I guess, she's better than many of us.
I say it's a privilege, not a right, because that particular organization is not in any way obligated to hire anyone they don't choose to. Here an example: If I were the president (high-profile position) of the university for which I work and I did the same thing he did, would they - or any other university - hire me back into such a position? I doubt it. If I were Michael Phelps and was one of the faces of Wheaties (or whoever), would they have every right to pull my contract? Yes; and they would probably do it too.
I only put "earn" in quotes because I don't think they work proportionately hard for the money they make. I do realize that athletes work extremely hard though.
Also, plenty of athletes work really hard and don't get to be in the NFL. It's a great opportunity - and he knowlingly blew it. They're being nice to give him a second chance, but it's not his right. Personally, because of the nature of his offense and the high profile position, I wouldn't give him a second chance.
So if a team WANTS to hire Vick, and he had already completed his jail sentence, why can't they hire him?
Unless you are really just trying to say that you think his sentence was too lenient....but that's a different subject.
actually rae carruth who played for the panthers shot and killed his pregnant g/f or wife. forgot which relation she was to him. he is in jail now though. also plaxico burress shot himself with an unregistered handgun....
as far as vick goes, an nfl career is one play away from ending very badly. i am not saying that i believe anyone is going to be taking any shots at him on the field, but karma works in funny ways sometimes and i think this whole situation is going to end badly. maybe he suffers a freak injury during warm ups. maybe the fans of the team that takes him will have such a backlash that the front office will be foreced to cut him again. i think wherever he signs he is going to have to have people watching his back, because to alot of people he is the most hated man in america.
who here wants to make a wager that vick falls in with the wrong crowd and gets in trouble and violates his probabtion? i would be willing to bet that before the season is over he will be busted for something like marijuana possession or something completely preventable and completely stupid like that, kind of like the time when he snuck the stinky sticky substance into the airport in the hidden compartment of his water bottle.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I don't know all the ins and outs of the NFL, but apparently some higher NFL authority has the final say in that.
1. I don't think anyone's suggesting that he be legally forbidden to play in the NFL... just that the NFL should not be okay with it and has no obligation to be.
2. It's not like he had a change of heart or something. The only reason he stopped is because he got caught.
Here's more on their stance on Michael Vick's return to the NFL.
Is Michael Vick a Clinically Diagnosable Psychopath or a Reformed Dogfighter?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,534352,00.html
PETA Is Demanding That Michael Vick Gets His Brain Scanned
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
He fucked up his life, but now, has a change to redeem himself. Tony Dungy, one of the leagues good guys, is going to mentor him ... I think that speaks VOLUMES for the potential for him to rebound.
I just hope if someone does sign him, he takes a significant amount of his salary and donates it to that team's local shelter, or a national organization like the SPCA (not PETA) ....
"I don't believe in damn curses. Wake up the damn Bambino and have me face him. Maybe I'll drill him in the ass." --- Pedro Martinez