To those who have said that they don't like comitting to buying a ticket months in advance and then having no options - what is the difference between this and buying an airplane ticket? if you're not planning to go to the show, then DON'T BUY A TICKET!
the difference is that although you might end up paying more (but not always), the plane will almost never sell out so you CAN wait much closer to the time. Plus even with non-flexible fares, you can change your flight for a fee.
For many shows (here at least), if you didn't buy within the 5 minutes they went on sale, you're screwed.
using the paperless but having a refund policy is an easy and sensible solution.
An even better one, as suggested, is having a secondary name (designated at purchase time and will need to bring the card, so can't be scalped) for backup. So even if the card holder can't make it for whatever reason, it's not wasted.
another good policy would be for each gig to have a guaranteed portion of tickets (of all kind) on sale on the day. That would also fuck with the scalpers to some extend since people who missed out on the initial sale would wait for that.
i am all for taking down the scalpers in any way possible. if it means i blew a few hundred dollars on a show i couldn't go to one time, so be it.
at the very least, i think this should be done for the GOOD seats. if you get floor seats to see bruce, you're NOT missing that for any circumstances, lets be real...save a death in the family or serious emergency.
a couple people in this thread have mentioned taking down the scalpers...the problem nowadays is not scalpers at the venue. they were never too much of a harm anyway. it's the ticket agents and stubhub, ticketsnow and all these other online resellers. make no mistake about it, these are ticket scalping web sites. and they are legal. citizens bank park (phillies) has a friggin stub hub window at the venue. right where the will call windows are. its beyond my comprehension how this is not looked at as scalping in the digital age.
you can literally join all the fan clubs (u2, bruce, pj, metallica), read up on the best ways to get tickets from livenation and ticketmaster (phone and web), play the game with stub hub/ticketsnow/local ticket brokers/guys at the venue, and resell these tickets as a full time job. i'm positive if done correctly you can make a living off of this...and that is what happens...and this is WRONG and if it can be stopped it has to happen. it is not fair that fans get priced out.
one more point - stub hub, etc sell themselves as a site where fans can sell tickets to other fans :roll: what a bunch of BS. i sold modest mouse tickets on stub hub one time. i bought 4 but only had 1 other taker so i sold 2. for exactly what they cost me so i could break even. they sold in about a minute. i kid you not...so i guarantee that a SCALPER bought the tickets and put them right back up there at double the cost or whatever they were going for. another way of playing the game and making money.
it must stop!
Those undecided,........ Needn't have faith to be free
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
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spot on
certainly ALL up close tickets should be paperless
For many shows (here at least), if you didn't buy within the 5 minutes they went on sale, you're screwed.
using the paperless but having a refund policy is an easy and sensible solution.
An even better one, as suggested, is having a secondary name (designated at purchase time and will need to bring the card, so can't be scalped) for backup. So even if the card holder can't make it for whatever reason, it's not wasted.
another good policy would be for each gig to have a guaranteed portion of tickets (of all kind) on sale on the day. That would also fuck with the scalpers to some extend since people who missed out on the initial sale would wait for that.
at the very least, i think this should be done for the GOOD seats. if you get floor seats to see bruce, you're NOT missing that for any circumstances, lets be real...save a death in the family or serious emergency.
a couple people in this thread have mentioned taking down the scalpers...the problem nowadays is not scalpers at the venue. they were never too much of a harm anyway. it's the ticket agents and stubhub, ticketsnow and all these other online resellers. make no mistake about it, these are ticket scalping web sites. and they are legal. citizens bank park (phillies) has a friggin stub hub window at the venue. right where the will call windows are. its beyond my comprehension how this is not looked at as scalping in the digital age.
you can literally join all the fan clubs (u2, bruce, pj, metallica), read up on the best ways to get tickets from livenation and ticketmaster (phone and web), play the game with stub hub/ticketsnow/local ticket brokers/guys at the venue, and resell these tickets as a full time job. i'm positive if done correctly you can make a living off of this...and that is what happens...and this is WRONG and if it can be stopped it has to happen. it is not fair that fans get priced out.
one more point - stub hub, etc sell themselves as a site where fans can sell tickets to other fans :roll: what a bunch of BS. i sold modest mouse tickets on stub hub one time. i bought 4 but only had 1 other taker so i sold 2. for exactly what they cost me so i could break even. they sold in about a minute. i kid you not...so i guarantee that a SCALPER bought the tickets and put them right back up there at double the cost or whatever they were going for. another way of playing the game and making money.
it must stop!
And those misguided, There was a plan for them to be
Now you got both sides Claiming killing in Gods name
But God is nowhere,..... To be found, conveniently
What goes on?