This is how it should be...
I know I posted this a while back but I just saw Bruce Springsteen is doing it for his upcoming shows at the Spectrum...I couldnt be arsed to find the other thread and this has info on how it works so...
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
There will be Paperless Tickets on select seats for this tour. You will not receive a physical ticket for entry, and are required to bring the credit card used to buy your tickets and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and/or your party access to the event. If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event.
Gift Cards will not be accepted and we reserve the right to cancel your ticket order if used as a form of payment. No exceptions will be made to these policies.
It works like this:
Purchase your tickets online or by phone using your credit card.
Bring your government issued ID and the credit card you used to purchase the tickets to the venue.
Present your ID and credit card at the entrance. Your credit card will be swiped and a locator slip for each seat will be printed for you.
IMPORTANT:
- TICKETS WITHIN SELECT SECTIONS in this venue will be issued Paperless Tickets Only ** These select sections include: the entire GA floor and lower bowl sections 213,214,215,216,225,226,201,202**
- These tickets are NON TRANSFERABLE. (Alternate will call names, name changes or ticket transfers will NOT be allowed for these tickets.)
- At ENTRY you must provide the CREDIT CARD USED TO PURCHASE AND PRESENT VALID PHOTO ID.
- The entire party MUST enter the venue at the same time.
To ensure that the tickets remain in the hands of the fan, paperless ticketing requires that the cardholder who purchased the tickets presents their credit card at the door for admission. Consumers WILL NOT receive a physical ticket for entry. If you are purchasing a ticket for someone but are not attending the event, you will need to have the person attending purchase the ticket on their credit card and then reimburse them.
Customers are required to bring the credit card they used to purchase their tickets, along with a government-issued ID to the venue, where their credit card will be swiped to access to the event. If they do not have the credit card used to purchase and government-issued ID in hand at the event, they will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made.
***THIS IS A GREAT IDEA PEOPLE!****
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
There will be Paperless Tickets on select seats for this tour. You will not receive a physical ticket for entry, and are required to bring the credit card used to buy your tickets and a government-issued ID to the venue, where your credit card will be swiped to gain you and/or your party access to the event. If you do not have your credit card and government-issued ID in hand at the event, you will not gain access to the event.
Gift Cards will not be accepted and we reserve the right to cancel your ticket order if used as a form of payment. No exceptions will be made to these policies.
It works like this:
Purchase your tickets online or by phone using your credit card.
Bring your government issued ID and the credit card you used to purchase the tickets to the venue.
Present your ID and credit card at the entrance. Your credit card will be swiped and a locator slip for each seat will be printed for you.
IMPORTANT:
- TICKETS WITHIN SELECT SECTIONS in this venue will be issued Paperless Tickets Only ** These select sections include: the entire GA floor and lower bowl sections 213,214,215,216,225,226,201,202**
- These tickets are NON TRANSFERABLE. (Alternate will call names, name changes or ticket transfers will NOT be allowed for these tickets.)
- At ENTRY you must provide the CREDIT CARD USED TO PURCHASE AND PRESENT VALID PHOTO ID.
- The entire party MUST enter the venue at the same time.
To ensure that the tickets remain in the hands of the fan, paperless ticketing requires that the cardholder who purchased the tickets presents their credit card at the door for admission. Consumers WILL NOT receive a physical ticket for entry. If you are purchasing a ticket for someone but are not attending the event, you will need to have the person attending purchase the ticket on their credit card and then reimburse them.
Customers are required to bring the credit card they used to purchase their tickets, along with a government-issued ID to the venue, where their credit card will be swiped to access to the event. If they do not have the credit card used to purchase and government-issued ID in hand at the event, they will not gain access to the event. No exceptions will be made.
***THIS IS A GREAT IDEA PEOPLE!****
Shows:
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
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I mean these are just a few of the problems with paperless tickets. It is a good idea in theory but there are definitely some problems that need to be ironed out. I never saw anything wrong with how Springsteen usually distributes tickets (Will Call pick up and wristbands, need both ticket and untampered wristband to enter venue).
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agreed.
it's a great idea for say fanclub tix, but for regular tix i think not.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
You need the CC which was used to purchase tickets since it will be swiped at the gate so that you are allowed entry. No CC, no entry.
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Yea me too. You think though they will have to give you something once you get in otherwise wouldn't people be arguing over who has which seats?
They give you a slip with your seat info on it
I got paperless tickets to both of these Springsteen shows...should be interesting to see how well it works out...I will miss having my ticket stub though
I just got them for Springsteen show in Nashville in September, so will be interesting. Hope I don't lose my cc between now and then
9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
If you are worried about not making the show, don't go. Or, buy tickets via ticketmaster and don't sweat it.
If for some reason you can't go at the last minute, that's unfortunate. However, tell me this...is it more unfortunate that you can't make one show for an unusual circumstance, or that thousands of fans are getting bent over by scalpers every show. 10c's system is good...but there are better ways to insure the people who are true fans are getting to see the show at face vaulue and the ones just looking to make money will be forced to watch the show themselves...or better yet, get out of our way!
My solution would be to allow two names on the pickup paper/envelope...that way maybe its possible if only one person can't go, the other could pick them up and go with another person. When you buy the pair of tickets, in addition to putting in your billing info etc, you would list a second name that would be printed next to the CC holder and would have equal rights to pick up. I'm not sure how necessary the swiping of the credit card is. If it is necessary, anyone can buy a prepaid credit card and load the cash on it with relative ease...you can also use your debit cards...these are minor inconveniences, people...we need to help any way we can to make it a better situation for the people who really want to see the show!
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at least for the 10c, I am happy the way it is
I dont like having to enter the venue right after getting my tickets
Im in favor of limiting scalping, but not at the expense of having to line up like cattle to enter a show
its the states job to enforce scalping, and for better or worse, they dont care about it very much
you wouldnt have to...at least not in the way I was proposing...same way its done now essentially, but upon entry you would have to show your ticket with a valid ID (no CC) before you get let in. This would require you to go in at the same time as the person with the other ticket, though.
This would be for fan club only. The fan club would need to be able to print the 10c tickets as a different color from regular ticketmaster tickets and be able to print the two names you have chosen at original purchase onto the physical ticket. If they wouldn't do this, then yes, I suppose you would have to enter as soon as you arrive at the venue.
shit happens and since they sell tickets months in advance, LOTS of shit can happen. that impacts both the buyer and any ticket buddy (and no, them SELLING you a cancellation insurance is not a fair solution).
Also there's a problem for anyone who doesn't have a CC or even Debit (not everyone can get one, minors for a start.)
Another problem with this system of going straight in is long queues.
These are not stipulations for fan club tickets, these are for Comcasttix or TM or Live Nation or any other ticket agency who want to enact them. So what are the options then for seeing a show and making sure that you and/or your friends are not shut out due to an unforseen life event??
Scalpers will find a way to buy tickets and resell them as long as there are people willing to pay whatever the market will allow for a ticket to a show
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The problem isn't just people who have a true, legitimate emergency or reason they can't make a show...its the hundreds of fans who get caught up in the "oh, there is going to be a Pearl Jam show I have to go (even though I think i'll probably have to work...ah naww I can figure it out!) and then can't go. They tried the transfer approach and it was a nightmare...they had to ditch it.
What happens when you buy an airline flight and can't make the flight? 9 times out of 10 you're shit out of luck...or you have to pay a ridiculously high charge to switch the dates.
The reality of the situation is there isn't a system that suits every person's wants/needs/desires...it's about finding the best way to accommodate the fans who can go to the show...and while I agree a refund policy isn't an outlandish request, you surely can see the nightmare it could cause for the 10c staff.
Look at it this way...it's very similar to hotwire and priceline...you are getting offered better seats without the BS ticketmaster fees, No Refunds, No exchanges. If this route doesn't suit you, you can go through the standard process of ticketmaster or ebay.
In my opinion, those people who are freaking out about the possibility of not making the show for "some reason"...are in a position when they buy the tickets that they know there is a 50/50 shot (or higher) that they won't make the show..they are just rolling the dice.
I think we all agree with that...but which is more likely to happen?
I see...I thought it was for Bruce's fan club...but I'm not understanding how anyone scalp if they are forced to swipe a credit card and immediately enter?
I get it, but I guess I just didn't relaize it was getting so out of hand...simply putting your name and address on the ticket itself should do the job..but I get what you're saying.....
Easy enough... buy up to the 4 ticket limit, and then sell 3 of the tickets. The 4th ticket is redeemed by the cardholder who easily recouped the cost of their time and expenses for being at the show. Not a perfect situation for the scalper but still very doable even with multiple sets of tickets under multiple names. The problem is the amount of money people are willing to pay scaplers in order to see a show.
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it works!
i got 12th row floors to see acdc this way...50000people there and im in the 12th row! all because of paperless tickets.
The amount of money that people are willing to pay to scalpers is the problem? Come on! I agree the price of some of these tickets getting scalped is ridiculous, but you're telling me if you were making 6 figures a year, you would never considering paying top dollar to see PJ up close, at least once? When people get desperate and really want to see a show, they are going to pay...it isn't their "problem"...they are trying to find a solution to see a show they otherwise might not be able to see and with no regulation of ticket sales, the scalpers thrive...the ones buying the tickets are hardly the root of the problem.
This argument of "if no one buys from the scalpers, the scalpers can't survive"...is totally ridiculous!! Of course that statement is true in a literal sense, but it doesn't deal with reality whatsoever!
Either scalping needs to be deemed illegal AND enforced...or there has to be an alternative solution..which a lot of ideas have been tried by various bands and it seems to be a relative success.
I was under the impression when you picked up your tickets (1 or 4) all the people in your party must be present and enter together...is that not the case?
not only make a law, but enforce it! :!: :!:
but its clear that most states have decided that this is not a priority
if fact, most states dont really care-and truthfully, our society has much bigger problems
that does suck...but how often is her daughter going to a Miley Cyrus concert? Once a year? A 40 minute drive...is it really that bad? I don't ever recall getting incredibly annoyed taking my friends or family to the airport, for example, (a 1 hour drive) when I wasn't going on vacation with them. Most people who buy tickets are the ones who go to the shows...Miley Cyrus concerts there is probably more of a mix...but shouldn't most parents be going to these concerts with their 12-14 year old daughters? I think most probably do.
They aren't making these rules for the band/venue's benefit...they are doing it for the fans...and to try and combat scalpers...that might mean for small inconveniences on all our parts, but it means in the end, the fans win and not the scalpers.
I'm not comparing them to 10C or other direct from the band sales... Those still rock.
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If you don't mind being shut out of concerts because scalpers have secured high numbers of prime tickets, and then let them go un-sold if they don't sell for thousands, then yeah, let's stick with the current system.
To those who have said that they don't like comitting to buying a ticket months in advance and then having no options - what is the difference between this and buying an airplane ticket? if you're not planning to go to the show, then DON'T BUY A TICKET!
Again - I am totally a supporter of having a PORTION of the tickets sold this way, say 50% of the venue, with a high percentage of the prime seats using this approach.
I just don't understand why people don't realize they could be paying face value for tickets, rather than putting money into some re-sellers pocket (not the artist's) and with less availability then they would otherwise have. Maybe I'm just crazy.