News from Artillery! Brad to do two Pearl Jam posters

Plankton

Looking forward to seeing these, love most of Brad's posters.

I really can't wait to see posters for the two UK shows, whoever's doing them.

acutejam

I will never forgive Ames for the SF06 posters (SF3 in particular 7/18/06, but 2 is just as hideous).
http://www.thecolorsblend.com/2006_2.htm

There was just an amazing progression of posters in 06 -- Ames dropping some awesome ones, then BK ... and I'm soooo stoked as the tour approaches SF.

And then we get the craptacular SFIII poster. Worst poster ever?
I don't think BK has ever so blatantly just phoned one in like SFII and III.

Bathgate66

acutejam wrote:

And then we get the craptacular SFIII poster. Worst poster ever?
I don't think BK has ever so blatantly just phoned one in like SFII and III.

Are we talking about the '06's ?
i can understand and respect your opinion
allthough I would have to have some disagreement with you here.
Artistically, not much to this trio of San Frans of '06 .
However, through the art , is a deep story.
Think of the time this concert happened,
think of that days ( and todays ) current events
and maybe you'll get the overall theme.
Single-ly , each poster isnt really much, ( allthough the jacket one is very nice IMO )
But when you put all 3 together they tell the more meaningful , poignant and overall solemn story .

I'm nowhere near San Fran but when I saw these 3 after they were exposed to the internet , I said I really wanted these 3 in my humble little colllection.
Im impressed how 3 simple plain looking screens can tell a story like they ( Ames ) did .

I'd say the absolute worst poster , in terms of artistic integrity , would have to be the Boston 06
astronaut riding the whooly mammouth ( figuratively - the future riding on the back of the past ) . Sure it was clever to hide the words inside of the whoolys fur ,

but the use ( or non - use ) of colors here is just reallly bad.
( yeah im colorblind & this aint helping it any )
Talk about ugly.
blech !

And to boot, this was my extra in the Ames Sub !
Doublke - sided 1/1 ugliness !
i couldnt give this one away !


Also-on the poster thing -- we are forgetting here that the same designs are recycled sometimes with different colors for different nights &/or even different cities -- ( ie : Camden 06 , Borgata , Boston 08 , MSG 08 )

so maybe they spread some of the work out amongst Brad, Ames, any others, ect, ...

BeerBaron

YieldToNothing wrote:

still think the kitchener 05 print was a winner as was saskatoon.

but yea, for the most part those posters were fuck ugly.

Saskatoon wasn't bad. Definitely the 2nd best poster. Kitchener was just ok. Given everything about that show that was great the fact that I haven't framed that poster speaks volumes about what I think of the art

acutejam

Bathgate66 wrote:

acutejam wrote:

And then we get the craptacular SFIII poster. Worst poster ever?
I don't think BK has ever so blatantly just phoned one in like SFII and III.

Are we talking about the '06's ?
i can understand and respect your opinion
allthough I would have to have some disagreement with you here.
Artistically, not much to this trio of San Frans of '06 .
However, through the art , is a deep story.
Think of the time this concert happened,
think of that days ( and todays ) current events
and maybe you'll get the overall theme.
Single-ly , each poster isnt really much, ( allthough the jacket one is very nice IMO )
But when you put all 3 together they tell the more meaningful , poignant and overall solemn story .

so maybe they spread some of the work out amongst Brad, Ames, any others, ect, ...

No, no, i GET the theme which to me was even MORE cliche -- oh hey, it's SF so lets do some Anti-War posters! Agreed the jacket is the best and in fact no call to deride that. The last two -- literally -- cookie cutter.

Random_Hero

does it seriusly matter who does the posters? for all I care it could be a poster finger painted by Boom and barfed on by stones dog, but as long as it says Pearl Jam, the city,and the date of the show I will still buy it

demetrios

Being an art lover, collector & critic is pretty cool, isn't it?

bicyclejoe

drsluggo wrote:

Brownie9160 wrote:

Speaking of politics in prints...does anyone think we will see Obama (whether it be subtle or blatant) in any of the tour posters this year? I'm thinking there will be at least one.

Well.. on a technical sense we'll see him in every poster. He'll be behind the booth taking a bit more $$ than normal from the merch sales.

Who let the Fox News propaganda machine into the Pit?

Seriously, I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but Obama cut most of our taxes this year with the stimulus package. What's more, you're paying local sales tax at merch booths, if you're paying taxes not federal, taxes.

Now where was that academic IQ chart showing the abysmal standing of Pearl Jam fans vs. other bands' fans from earlier this year?

AT least we're not as bad as Green Day fans: http://beatcrave.com/2009-03-03/music-t ... -you-dumb/

benjs

bicyclejoe wrote:

drsluggo wrote:

Brownie9160 wrote:

Speaking of politics in prints...does anyone think we will see Obama (whether it be subtle or blatant) in any of the tour posters this year? I'm thinking there will be at least one.

Well.. on a technical sense we'll see him in every poster. He'll be behind the booth taking a bit more $$ than normal from the merch sales.

Who let the Fox News propaganda machine into the Pit?

Seriously, I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but Obama cut most of our taxes this year with the stimulus package. What's more, you're paying local sales tax at merch booths, if you're paying taxes not federal, taxes.

Now where was that academic IQ chart showing the abysmal standing of Pearl Jam fans vs. other bands' fans from earlier this year?

A lot of people rant first, and do their research later.. no need to generalize and insult our collective intellect (especially considering I am going to go on the assumption that you as well are a Pearl Jam fan)

drsluggo

bicyclejoe wrote:

Who let the Fox News propaganda machine into the Pit?

Seriously, I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but Obama cut most of our taxes this year with the stimulus package. What's more, you're paying local sales tax at merch booths, if you're paying taxes not federal, taxes.

And I thank you for proving the earlier post about why people don't like politics in every poster.

Second though... I said he would be taking money from the sales at the merch booth. That, my friend, is going to end us as income to the band which is indeed taxable at a federal level.

And i could be wrong here, but I'm guessing PJ is in that upper income bracket that is going to be paying a lot more in taxes over the coming months and years. So you can try and bash my IQ, but a little extra attention and you would have seen that my comment was that more would be taken from the sales and not taken from people buying merch at the shows. Pearl Jam has upped their merch prices enough over the last few tours to notice the increase already.

But again thanks for showing everyone why politics in every poster can rub people the wrong way - I love when it happens without anyone asking for specific examples!

bicyclejoe

Sorry, I was trying to be ironic and sarcastic. The fact is that I think that chart is ludicrous. I was making fun of it. Although I do think the comments about Obama were off kilter with reality.

bicyclejoe

drsluggo wrote:

bicyclejoe wrote:

Who let the Fox News propaganda machine into the Pit?

Seriously, I'm not sure where you're getting your information, but Obama cut most of our taxes this year with the stimulus package. What's more, you're paying local sales tax at merch booths, if you're paying taxes not federal, taxes.

And I thank you for proving the earlier post about why people don't like politics in every poster.

Second though... I said he would be taking money from the sales at the merch booth. That, my friend, is going to end us as income to the band which is indeed taxable at a federal level.

And i could be wrong here, but I'm guessing PJ is in that upper income bracket that is going to be paying a lot more in taxes over the coming months and years. So you can try and bash my IQ, but a little extra attention and you would have seen that my comment was that more would be taken from the sales and not taken from people buying merch at the shows. Pearl Jam has upped their merch prices enough over the last few tours to notice the increase already.

But again thanks for showing everyone why politics in every poster can rub people the wrong way - I love when it happens without anyone asking for specific examples!

You're not making sense, brother. Your original comment was about taxes. I don't think you can blame the increase in merch prices in the past few years on federal taxes. But I could be wrong.

I think you have a problem with politics in the gig art because it reminds you about just how out of sync you are with the band's progressive beliefs and lyrics. Just a guess.

drsluggo

bicyclejoe wrote:

You're not making sense, brother. Your original comment was about taxes. I don't think you can blame the increase in merch prices in the past few years on federal taxes. But I could be wrong.

I think you have a problem with politics in the gig art because it reminds you about just how out of sync you are with the band's progressive beliefs and lyrics. Just a guess.

Again, if you read my post it was that they would be behind the table taking more FROM the merch sales - not from the concert-goers. That combined with me just now saying that PJ has increased prices enough on their own lately...

Whether or not I'm out of sync with their beliefs has nothing to do with the other people on here saying they wish not every poster was a political poster. I was just pointing out that part of the reason that people don't like politics is because starts arguments over meaningless comments such as you jumping over my joke that Obama would be involved in every poster since he'll be taking more from the band for their sales of them. Personally I don't care - if it looks cool I'm game. I don't go calling everyone I disagree with part of the Fox News machine or MSNBC bandwagon, etc. That would be generalizing quite a bit in an attempt to marginalize people... kind of childish for people that have an IQ over the average Green Day fan.

U R A Crazy Breed

fuck the fan boy shit!!! Ames & Brad both do great work...it's all about the art not the artist.

jimed14

I liked one or two of the Ames prints from 2008 ... not loved, liked ... the Columbia one was nice, I'm a huge fan of the Clash, so, that has something to do with it.

Mentioned previously, the 2006 San Francisco prints are pretty horrid. I went out and found these alternates ... much nicer ...





Would like if PJ used a different artist every now and again ... certianly keep BK for a few shows, and yeah, throw Ames their bone ... but, bring in a few others once in a while like they did in 2000.

bicyclejoe

My favorites over the years:
1992: Kozik with Soundgarden
1993: Kozik poster with Neil Young
1994: Hess Cleveland
1995: Ames snake boy (mutiple dates)
1996: Sutton/Ames, Budapest/Prague
1997: Ames Oakland
1998: Ames Missoula
2000: Ames California Trio
2003: Ames DC
2004: Klausen Showbox
2005: Klausen Easy Street
2006: Emek Santa Barbara or Klausen DC
2007: Ames London
2008: Ames Tampa

FrankBauer

bicyclejoe wrote:

2007: Ames London

this would be an interesting thread idea...listing fav posters from each year....

but really? london over dusseldorf?

jimed14

FrankBauer wrote:

bicyclejoe wrote:

2007: Ames London

this would be an interesting thread idea...listing fav posters from each year....

but really? london over dusseldorf?

exactly what I was going to say ... maybe he was there ... but the Dusseldorf is my fave for 2007 and possibly my all time favorite ... at the very least, top 3.

bicyclejoe

FrankBauer wrote:

bicyclejoe wrote:

2007: Ames London

this would be an interesting thread idea...listing fav posters from each year....

but really? london over dusseldorf?

I like both. But London is my favorite.

Kilgore_Trout

FrankBauer wrote:

bicyclejoe wrote:

2007: Ames London

this would be an interesting thread idea...listing fav posters from each year....

but really? london over dusseldorf?

i would take a neon snuffleupagus over BKs work ANY day!

glad hes only doing 2... hopefully both torontos and neither chicago

oh and as far as the obama thing... id say theres a good chance ames does it for chicago... but that would be taking the obvious route... and they have alot of making up to do for chicago '06... so something less political would be nice / more timeless

brads stuff looks like it belongs in a sticker vending machine at white castle / the grocery store - to then be bought and stuck to the school notebooks of insane clown posse / slipknot fans :twisted: