Henry Louis Gates Jr

Staceb10

brandon10 wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

agreed

If someone is fumbling with a door trying to get into a locked house, and they refuse to show the cop their ID, what would you want the cop to do?

The cop is supposed to apprehend suspected criminals, and the suspects are innocent till proven guilty. This is exactly what happened.

agree also. I cant believe this story is getting so much coverage. there was no racial profiling at all. not only was he fumbling with a locked door, a fucking call came in saying someone was trying to break into a home. for fuckssake. it was a simple misunderstanding. yet this is national news because he is some (GASP!!!! black) dipshit professor at Harvard? fuck him and fuck this story.


ok thanks, I feel better now.

Don't you mean "he's a stupid niger and gets what he deserves"?

Say what you really want to.

I think that's a bit harsh. Just because someone doesn't think the cop was racially profiling this guy who just assumed he was being profiled and acted like an asshole doesn't mean he was calling him a racial slur.

inmytree

Staceb10 wrote:

inmytree wrote:

I love this story...folks are mad about Obama...folks think that black guy overreacted in his own home, thus leading to his arrest...yet not too many folks wonder if the cop overreacted...hmmmmm....

there are two sides to every story, but for me, there is no reason the police should have arrested this man...he showed his ID and he was in his own home...yeah, yeah, he raised his voice...I guess the should have tasered the f'r for raising his voice...

The fact is none of us really know what he did or what the officer did.

not true...

A) Gates came home from China
His door was stuck
C) Someone calls the po-po
D) Po-po shows up
E) Oh my, this is Gates' home
F) Gates yells at the po-po (aka acts like an asshole)
G) Gates is arrested
H) Charges dropped

brandon10

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

Dirtie_Frank

brandon10 wrote:

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

For what being an asshole. I think the cop should sue gates for defamation of character.

brandon10

agree also. I cant believe this story is getting so much coverage. there was no racial profiling at all. not only was he fumbling with a locked door, a fucking call came in saying someone was trying to break into a home. for fuckssake. it was a simple misunderstanding. yet this is national news because he is some (GASP!!!! black) dipshit professor at Harvard? fuck him and fuck this story.


ok thanks, I feel better now.[/quote]

Don't you mean "he's a stupid niger and gets what he deserves"?

Say what you really want to.[/quote]

I think that's a bit harsh. Just because someone doesn't think the cop was racially profiling this guy who just assumed he was being profiled and acted like an asshole doesn't mean he was calling him a racial slur.[/quote]

I would bet the farm that with his buddies he speaks in this manner.

brandon10

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

For what being an asshole. I think the cop should sue gates for defamation of character.

Goodluck with that arguement.

Dirtie_Frank

brandon10 wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

For what being an asshole. I think the cop should sue gates for defamation of character.

Goodluck with that arguement.

He has a better case then gates.

tybird

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

inmytree wrote:

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

So what if gates is a friend of Obama. That does not give Gates the right to disrespect a police officer who was responding to a call from 911. Like I said before it is not like the police officer followed Gates home and demanded he show his ID for going into the house. There was an attepted break in earlier that week and the police asked him to show ID. There was nothing wrong with that.

oh, now it's a crime to "disrespect" the police...interesting...

the man was in his home, he proved it was home, at that point case solved...time for the police to move on...

Do you think the police officer was giving Gates a hard time because he was black?

I think the policeman was just full of himself and his "power"....he would have probably been an asshole to a white guy too. Too many of today's law enforcement officers have let the badge go to their head...especially since 9/11...you say something they don't like or agree with, they make up some bullshit excuse to arrest you.

brandon10

Dirtie_Frank wrote:

He has a better case then gates.[/quote]

Ya.....One guy got wrongfully arrested and the other had bad words said to him. Like I said, good luck.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

brandon10 wrote:

jlew24asu wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

agreed

If someone is fumbling with a door trying to get into a locked house, and they refuse to show the cop their ID, what would you want the cop to do?

The cop is supposed to apprehend suspected criminals, and the suspects are innocent till proven guilty. This is exactly what happened.

agree also. I cant believe this story is getting so much coverage. there was no racial profiling at all. not only was he fumbling with a locked door, a fucking call came in saying someone was trying to break into a home. for fuckssake. it was a simple misunderstanding. yet this is national news because he is some (GASP!!!! black) dipshit professor at Harvard? fuck him and fuck this story.


ok thanks, I feel better now.

Don't you mean "he's a stupid niger and gets what he deserves"?

Say what you really want to.

thats a pretty stupid comment to make. what other assumptions and prejudices do you have?

g under p

tybird wrote:

I think the policeman was just full of himself and his "power"....he would have probably been an asshole to a white guy too. Too many of today's law enforcement officers have let the badge go to their head...especially since 9/11...you say something they don't like or agree with, they make up some bullshit excuse to arrest you.

Absolutely, I know this for a fact and I didn't say anything to the officer just the atmosphere and the county at that time. At the time 2 officers were killed by a black man while he was in jail. They were beating him to death when he got a hold of one of their guns and killed them both out of panic and fear. After that police arrested you for just looking at them.

Anyway i was arrested the only time in my life for till this day I don't clearly know why. I was 17 what I did was walked through an amusement park with my bike which I had done countless times along with others. He told me I had to park the bike outside the park and that i couldn't come back in. I couldn't believe what he was saying to when I saw others walking in the park so I parked the bike and came back in I was arrested. When I got to the same station those two officers were killed they taunted and made fun of me to no end. I couldn't believe the shit I was in with drunken people etc.

They released me after my mother couldn't be reached and I had a court appearence 5 weeks later, paided a $25 fined to avoid a trial cause I was about to start college. So yes in my case they make up shit to fit their agenda on certain people.

Again ALL are not like that officer that arrested me but they're a contingent hold tight for one another whether right or wrong.

Peace

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

there are a lot of douchebag cops around, but i always seem to get lucky. all my friends have had at least one DUI, but the only thing i ever got was a ride home from the coolest fucking cop in the world. not that im proud of driving hammered. that was pretty stupid.

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brandon10 wrote:

stupid niger

Dude, you are way out of line with that comment. I think you owe the people of the Republic of Niger an apology!

youngster

brandon10 wrote:

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

I hope he does too.

Cause then it would be open season on his house. Cause do you actually think the police would actively investigate another call to that residence after this incident?

And for the record, I think that Gates is the racist, not Crowley. People in this country think that racism can only be white on black and not the other way around. This guy provoked the situation. It could have ended had he not used the race card when asked for ID. Then he wants an apology? Good for Crowley for not backing down.

TriumphantAngel

cropduster82 wrote:

brandon10 wrote:

I hope Mr. Gates does the Ameican thing and sues the shit out of the cambridge police.

I hope he does too.

Cause then it would be open season on his house. Cause do you actually think the police would actively investigate another call to that residence after this incident

don't kid yourself, i'm sure if his whiny assed neighbour complained again, they would be there in a heartbeat. :roll:

TriumphantAngel

g under p wrote:

tybird wrote:

I think the policeman was just full of himself and his "power"....he would have probably been an asshole to a white guy too. Too many of today's law enforcement officers have let the badge go to their head...especially since 9/11...you say something they don't like or agree with, they make up some bullshit excuse to arrest you.

Absolutely, I know this for a fact and I didn't say anything to the officer just the atmosphere and the county at that time. At the time 2 officers were killed by a black man while he was in jail. They were beating him to death when he got a hold of one of their guns and killed them both out of panic and fear. After that police arrested you for just looking at them.

Anyway i was arrested the only time in my life for till this day I don't clearly know why. I was 17 what I did was walked through an amusement park with my bike which I had done countless times along with others. He told me I had to park the bike outside the park and that i couldn't come back in. I couldn't believe what he was saying to when I saw others walking in the park so I parked the bike and came back in I was arrested. When I got to the same station those two officers were killed they taunted and made fun of me to no end. I couldn't believe the shit I was in with drunken people etc.

They released me after my mother couldn't be reached and I had a court appearence 5 weeks later, paided a $25 fined to avoid a trial cause I was about to start college. So yes in my case they make up shit to fit their agenda on certain people.

Again ALL are not like that officer that arrested me but they're a contingent hold tight for one another whether right or wrong.

Peace

that's such a shitty story g under p. sorry that happened to you.

FinsburyParkCarrots

Damned if he said nothing, Damned if he said something which he could modify a bit, tomorrow. It's politics.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

my take is the guy was chomping at the bit to start a fight with a cop, and couldnt pass up an opportunity to cause a scene, even though the cop was really helping him. he was trying to cause an incident and the cop fell right into it.

but................ the cop did abuse his authority. arresting people because they piss you off is bullshit. I dont think racism was involved at all. just good old fashioned abuse of power.

i have a hard time feeling sorry for either of them. one scumbag ran into another one.

soulsinging

MrSmith wrote:

my take is the guy was chomping at the bit to start a fight with a cop, and couldnt pass up an opportunity to cause a scene, even though the cop was really helping him. he was trying to cause an incident and the cop fell right into it.

but................ the cop did abuse his authority. arresting people because they piss you off is bullshit. I dont think racism was involved at all. just good old fashioned abuse of power.

i have a hard time feeling sorry for either of them. one scumbag ran into another one.

My guess is just that the cop was offended at being accused of racism when, all things considered, he was being pretty reasonable. But when it comes down to it... I think that given the power a police officer has, he's got to be the bigger man and just walk away and let Gates keep ranting. If this guy was teaching a racial profiling class, I'm guessing he won't anymore. One less decent cop out there. But the bottom line is, a crotchety old black man was quick to cry profiling. Maybe it was justified, maybe it wasn't. But you let him rant and throw a tantrum on his porch all he wants and you get the hell outta there and investigate other crimes. The cop's response was human, but I think we necessarily need to hold police to higher standards of judgment and behavior than average citizen. I don't blame him for throwing the cuffs, but he still shouldn't have done it.

tybird

soulsinging wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

my take is the guy was chomping at the bit to start a fight with a cop, and couldnt pass up an opportunity to cause a scene, even though the cop was really helping him. he was trying to cause an incident and the cop fell right into it.

but................ the cop did abuse his authority. arresting people because they piss you off is bullshit. I dont think racism was involved at all. just good old fashioned abuse of power.

i have a hard time feeling sorry for either of them. one scumbag ran into another one.

My guess is just that the cop was offended at being accused of racism when, all things considered, he was being pretty reasonable. But when it comes down to it... I think that given the power a police officer has, he's got to be the bigger man and just walk away and let Gates keep ranting. If this guy was teaching a racial profiling class, I'm guessing he won't anymore. One less decent cop out there. But the bottom line is, a crotchety old black man was quick to cry profiling. Maybe it was justified, maybe it wasn't. But you let him rant and throw a tantrum on his porch all he wants and you get the hell outta there and investigate other crimes. The cop's response was human, but I think we necessarily need to hold police to higher standards of judgment and behavior than average citizen. I don't blame him for throwing the cuffs, but he still shouldn't have done it.

If part of your job description allows you to restrict another person's freedom, within limits of the law, you should hold yourself to a higher standard....because we are expecting a higher standard of you.