i went to the june pj concert in columbia sc - and it was a non-smoking venue. I dislike smoke but tolerate it for certain events. Its an unavoidable problem for non-smokers - having to put up with other people's ash!
So there is Eddie puffing away on stage at the concert right? so its ok for him, of course they won't enforce the rule on the lead singer of pearl jam right? no never in a million years.
but that just gives everyone else the o.k. to fire up their cigs and start passing the grass - and then we pretty much have a small army of smokers puffing away, which is great if you don't mind the shit- but i do. So i'm stuck in a cloud of toxic fumes thanks to eddie - way to go my man! at first no one was smoking but, then once they saw ed - its like a tear gas attack!
so nice to know that once ed was seen doing it - everyone who smoked was firing em up. wish i could go somewhere and not leave smelling like a g-d ashtray! afterall it was a non-smoking venue, but turned into a smokehouse.
I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of this thread, but I am a non-smoker. Nobody hates smoke or is bothered by it more than me. That being said, I go to every concert expecting it. It has always been like that and always will, regardless if the lead singer is smoking.
If you honestly believe that people were only smoking because of Ed, then you are smoking something.
it is a ROCK CONCERT....i know repetitive...but is there really a need for an argument....i don't smoke but i know what to expect...don't go if you don't want to expose yourself to it...
"To be the man, you gotta beat the man! WOOOOOOOOO!!"
I love this answer...gives anyone the right to do just about anything...
God forbd people actually have respect for others and the rules of the venue they have agreed to enter.
"Your honor, I know killing that man was against the law.... but it was rock concert!"
CincyBearcat is 100% right on this one! People think the rules of the venue don't apply to them for some reason? People think their right to smoke trumps the right of non-smokers to clean air? People think that just because it has always been that way, that it must continue to be that way?
it is a ROCK CONCERT....i know repetitive...but is there really a need for an argument....i don't smoke but i know what to expect...don't go if you don't want to expose yourself to it...
I expect people to follow the law and/or the rules. It is a Non-smoking venue! Do you smoke in non-smoking bars? Hospitals are non-smoking too, if a rock concert broke out there, I guess it would be OK to smoke there?
people smoke at ALL rock concerts.... pearl jam is no different.. its gonna happen. If it bothers you that bad why bother going? Its been this way since the dawn of rock;)
All politicians are corrupt, and have been so since the begining of time. It's gonna happen. It's been this way since the begining of time! So don't ever let me hear you smokers on this thread bitch about them! It's just they way it is... so get used to it!
People go to concerts to have a good time. Let people unwind and have a good time. Life is too short to waste it bitching about small aggravations... just try to enjoy the experience of seeing the best live band in the world.
That's what I do...
I love how the rights of the smoker trump the rights of the non-smoker. Non-smokers are entitled to a good time too. Not being able to smoke at a venue is a small aggrevation.... so have respect for your fellow man and wait until after the show!
I love how the rights of the smoker trump the rights of the non-smoker. Non-smokers are entitled to a good time too. Not being able to smoke at a venue is a small aggrevation.... so have respect for your fellow man and wait until after the show![/quote]
Amen brother you couldn't have said it better - i love how the smokers all fire back with the same old f#ck you asshole response, its shows me one big thing
you have an addiction - its your addiction not mine and the way you are chosing to pursue you addiction is affecting me and those around me!
that is where my right to dissent what you are doing is - MY RIGHT!
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i went to the june pj concert in columbia sc - and it was a non-smoking venue. I dislike smoke but tolerate it for certain events. Its an unavoidable problem for non-smokers - having to put up with other people's ash!
So there is Eddie puffing away on stage at the concert right? so its ok for him, of course they won't enforce the rule on the lead singer of pearl jam right? no never in a million years.
but that just gives everyone else the o.k. to fire up their cigs and start passing the grass - and then we pretty much have a small army of smokers puffing away, which is great if you don't mind the shit- but i do. So i'm stuck in a cloud of toxic fumes thanks to eddie - way to go my man! at first no one was smoking but, then once they saw ed - its like a tear gas attack!
so nice to know that once ed was seen doing it - everyone who smoked was firing em up. wish i could go somewhere and not leave smelling like a g-d ashtray! afterall it was a non-smoking venue, but turned into a smokehouse.
I don't think people should smoke cigarettes at concerts (even though I smoke) but I don't think it should be blamed on Eddie either as the original post says.
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Do people think it's ok to spill beer on others...or even piss on them too? Because, after all it is a rock concert.
Also, I notices that recently a large number of people barely listen ot th emusic and instead carryon dumbass conversations during the shows...it this ok, since it's a rock concert?
All of these things show the same thing...people don't respect others.
I love how the rights of the smoker trump the rights of the non-smoker. Non-smokers are entitled to a good time too. Not being able to smoke at a venue is a small aggrevation.... so have respect for your fellow man and wait until after the show!
Amen brother you couldn't have said it better - i love how the smokers all fire back with the same old f#ck you asshole response, its shows me one big thing
you have an addiction - its your addiction not mine and the way you are chosing to pursue you addiction is affecting me and those around me!
that is where my right to dissent what you are doing is - MY RIGHT!
"I AM MINE" - SOUND FAMILIAR FUCKERS?[/quote]
Speaking as a pregnant woman who most certainly inhaled some second hand toxic fumes on this tour - I definitely agree! However I would disagree with the argument that Ed is responsible for everyone else choosing to light up as well.
Bitching about smoke at a concert might be the lamest thing that someone can do. It's also completely pointless. If you are really having an issue, and don't care if the entire venue thinks that you suck, then by all means go and get an usher or a security guard and start narking out the smokers.
Or, you could be a decent human being and learn to tolerate the rest of the humans that you are sharing the concert venue with.
I've been to shows all over this country, and in three others, and you know what I think about when I show up at the venue? I think, "Wow! Look at all of these people! They're all Pearl Jam fans too! This is going to be great!" I'm sure that there are a ton of people in the crowd that do things that I don't approve of, and don't want to be part of, but I'm going to tolerate them for a few hours because they're cool enough to come out to the same concert that I came out to.
I understand that if I choose to go to any rock concert, there most likely will be cigarette and marijuana smoke in the crowd. If you choose to do something about it by narking out the smokers, then you should understand that the entire place will hate you and that you might end up getting spit on, punched, or worse.
Those are the two choices:
a) Enjoy the show and deal with the very minor inconvenience of your air quality being briefly affected for a few hours.
b) Nark out your fellow fans for smoking and deal with the possibility of being verbally, mentally, and even physically harassed.
All of the Pearl Jam shows I’ve been to were either in, or fairly close to, major metropolitan cities. The simple fact of the matter is that the air quality of those areas is worse for people than smoking a pack a day would be. So, it’s pointless to bitch about some fellow fan smoking near you at a concert when you breathe in carcinogenic air all day long.
i went to the june pj concert in columbia sc - and it was a non-smoking venue. I dislike smoke but tolerate it for certain events. Its an unavoidable problem for non-smokers - having to put up with other people's ash!
So there is Eddie puffing away on stage at the concert right? so its ok for him, of course they won't enforce the rule on the lead singer of pearl jam right? no never in a million years.
but that just gives everyone else the o.k. to fire up their cigs and start passing the grass - and then we pretty much have a small army of smokers puffing away, which is great if you don't mind the shit- but i do. So i'm stuck in a cloud of toxic fumes thanks to eddie - way to go my man! at first no one was smoking but, then once they saw ed - its like a tear gas attack!
so nice to know that once ed was seen doing it - everyone who smoked was firing em up. wish i could go somewhere and not leave smelling like a g-d ashtray! afterall it was a non-smoking venue, but turned into a smokehouse.
I don't think it's Eddie's fault. I mean they could allow him and still enforce the nonsmoking rule if only for the sake of fire hazard. I agree about smoke; I hate it because I have to smell as bad as those who smoke choose to. But I don't CHOOSE to.
the problem is that not until you quit smoking do you see that it smells so awful. it is a terrible addiction.
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Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Bitching about smoke at a concert might be the lamest thing that someone can do. It's also completely pointless. If you are really having an issue, and don't care if the entire venue thinks that you suck, then by all means go and get an usher or a security guard and start narking out the smokers.
Or, you could be a decent human being and learn to tolerate the rest of the humans that you are sharing the concert venue with.
I've been to shows all over this country, and in three others, and you know what I think about when I show up at the venue? I think, "Wow! Look at all of these people! They're all Pearl Jam fans too! This is going to be great!" I'm sure that there are a ton of people in the crowd that do things that I don't approve of, and don't want to be part of, but I'm going to tolerate them for a few hours because they're cool enough to come out to the same concert that I came out to.
I understand that if I choose to go to any rock concert, there most likely will be cigarette and marijuana smoke in the crowd. If you choose to do something about it by narking out the smokers, then you should understand that the entire place will hate you and that you might end up getting spit on, punched, or worse.
Those are the two choices:
a) Enjoy the show and deal with the very minor inconvenience of your air quality being briefly affected for a few hours.
b) Nark out your fellow fans for smoking and deal with the possibility of being verbally, mentally, and even physically harassed.
All of the Pearl Jam shows I’ve been to were either in, or fairly close to, major metropolitan cities. The simple fact of the matter is that the air quality of those areas is worse for people than smoking a pack a day would be. So, it’s pointless to bitch about some fellow fan smoking near you at a concert when you breathe in carcinogenic air all day long.
you must be a smoker, right?
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Thrown out of Va. Beach some years ago because some woman told on us for firing up a doobie. Heard most of the show from some fucked up security trailer behind the venue. Virginia sucks! Although the show there from this past tour was amazing!
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The weird thing is I have been lumped in with the smokers on this thread. I don't smoke at concerts. All I was saying is you'll save yourself some aggravation if you just lighten up a little and expect a little smoke here and there. Kind of like going skiing and expecting a certain percentage of douchebags, or going camping and expecting a certain percentage of loudmouths, or going to the movies and expecting people talking a little during the movie. Just roll with it instead of letting it increase your blood pressure. I'm talking about having a little flexibility. It's not about what is legal or in violation of the rules.
Pick your battles.
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I couldn't be bothered to read the rest of this thread, but I am a non-smoker. Nobody hates smoke or is bothered by it more than me. That being said, I go to every concert expecting it. It has always been like that and always will, regardless if the lead singer is smoking.
If you honestly believe that people were only smoking because of Ed, then you are smoking something.
Stop being so naive.
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"Your honor, I know killing that man was against the law.... but it was rock concert!"
CincyBearcat is 100% right on this one! People think the rules of the venue don't apply to them for some reason? People think their right to smoke trumps the right of non-smokers to clean air? People think that just because it has always been that way, that it must continue to be that way?
The Cincy show in 2006 still sucked!
I expect people to follow the law and/or the rules. It is a Non-smoking venue! Do you smoke in non-smoking bars? Hospitals are non-smoking too, if a rock concert broke out there, I guess it would be OK to smoke there?
All politicians are corrupt, and have been so since the begining of time. It's gonna happen. It's been this way since the begining of time! So don't ever let me hear you smokers on this thread bitch about them! It's just they way it is... so get used to it!
I love how the rights of the smoker trump the rights of the non-smoker. Non-smokers are entitled to a good time too. Not being able to smoke at a venue is a small aggrevation.... so have respect for your fellow man and wait until after the show!
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Amen brother you couldn't have said it better - i love how the smokers all fire back with the same old f#ck you asshole response, its shows me one big thing
you have an addiction - its your addiction not mine and the way you are chosing to pursue you addiction is affecting me and those around me!
that is where my right to dissent what you are doing is - MY RIGHT!
"I AM MINE" - SOUND FAMILIAR FUCKERS?
--Jack Lengyel
Mihi cura futuri.
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Also, I notices that recently a large number of people barely listen ot th emusic and instead carryon dumbass conversations during the shows...it this ok, since it's a rock concert?
All of these things show the same thing...people don't respect others.
Amen brother you couldn't have said it better - i love how the smokers all fire back with the same old f#ck you asshole response, its shows me one big thing
you have an addiction - its your addiction not mine and the way you are chosing to pursue you addiction is affecting me and those around me!
that is where my right to dissent what you are doing is - MY RIGHT!
"I AM MINE" - SOUND FAMILIAR FUCKERS?[/quote]
Speaking as a pregnant woman who most certainly inhaled some second hand toxic fumes on this tour - I definitely agree! However I would disagree with the argument that Ed is responsible for everyone else choosing to light up as well.
Or, you could be a decent human being and learn to tolerate the rest of the humans that you are sharing the concert venue with.
I've been to shows all over this country, and in three others, and you know what I think about when I show up at the venue? I think, "Wow! Look at all of these people! They're all Pearl Jam fans too! This is going to be great!" I'm sure that there are a ton of people in the crowd that do things that I don't approve of, and don't want to be part of, but I'm going to tolerate them for a few hours because they're cool enough to come out to the same concert that I came out to.
I understand that if I choose to go to any rock concert, there most likely will be cigarette and marijuana smoke in the crowd. If you choose to do something about it by narking out the smokers, then you should understand that the entire place will hate you and that you might end up getting spit on, punched, or worse.
Those are the two choices:
a) Enjoy the show and deal with the very minor inconvenience of your air quality being briefly affected for a few hours.
b) Nark out your fellow fans for smoking and deal with the possibility of being verbally, mentally, and even physically harassed.
All of the Pearl Jam shows I’ve been to were either in, or fairly close to, major metropolitan cities. The simple fact of the matter is that the air quality of those areas is worse for people than smoking a pack a day would be. So, it’s pointless to bitch about some fellow fan smoking near you at a concert when you breathe in carcinogenic air all day long.
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I don't think it's Eddie's fault. I mean they could allow him and still enforce the nonsmoking rule if only for the sake of fire hazard. I agree about smoke; I hate it because I have to smell as bad as those who smoke choose to. But I don't CHOOSE to.
the problem is that not until you quit smoking do you see that it smells so awful. it is a terrible addiction.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
you must be a smoker, right?
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
You must be a narc, right?
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Ummmmmmmmm, no. not a narc. then you must be a very tolerant non smoker. sorry.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........