Overblown Criticism of The Fixer

Fahka

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

it's the fact that the song is fun and goofy, and you want your PJ as dour and angsty as it was in the 90's.

You people defending The Fixer have to understand that those of us who hate it don't want dour and angsty or anything that was in the 90's.....we just hate THIS song. Just THIS song. We don't want Vitalogy Part 2, we don't want Jeremy Goes To College. We just don't want THIS ONE SONG because we don't like it. And it's not that we don't like it because of any pre-conceived notion of what a Pearl Jam song should be or because we're too pretentious to enjoy a "fun and goofy" song, we just think it's a bad song.

Jermy Goes to College

well put....but shhhhhhhhhhh u pay twenty bucks a year for this privilege and unless you prefer your thoughts and ideas lumped up in one pile of everyone else's feelings, u better damned well enjoy the fixer!

Fahka

Evacuation Rules wrote:

This single is exactly what I was hoping for. A catchy Matt Cameron song to piss off all the wanna-be haters.

:?

PJammin'

Evacuation Rules wrote:

This single is exactly what I was hoping for. A catchy Matt Cameron song to piss off all the wanna-be haters.

it's a single is exactly what i was hoping for too. a catchy matt cameron song to piss off people who think they know what kind of songs pearl jam should make.

LikeAnOcean

Evacuation Rules wrote:

This single is exactly what I was hoping for. A catchy Matt Cameron song to piss off all the wanna-be haters.

I love Matt Cameron songs.

Ledbetterman10

LeatherMandi wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

it's the fact that the song is fun and goofy, and you want your PJ as dour and angsty as it was in the 90's.

You people defending The Fixer have to understand that those of us who hate it don't want dour and angsty or anything that was in the 90's.....we just hate THIS song. Just THIS song. We don't want Vitalogy Part 2, we don't want Jeremy Goes To College. We just don't want THIS ONE SONG because we don't like it. And it's not that we don't like it because of any pre-conceived notion of what a Pearl Jam song should be or because we're too pretentious to enjoy a "fun and goofy" song, we just think it's a bad song.

Jermy Goes to College

well put....but shhhhhhhhhhh u pay twenty bucks a year for this privilege and unless you prefer your thoughts and ideas lumped up in one pile of everyone else's feelings, u better damned well enjoy the fixer!

lol, sadly that's true

PJammin' wrote:

it's a single is exactly what i was hoping for too. a catchy matt cameron song to piss off people who think they know what kind of songs pearl jam should make.

As I said before:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it's not that we don't like it because of any pre-conceived notion of what a Pearl Jam song should be or because we're too pretentious to enjoy a "fun and goofy" song, we just think it's a bad song.

soulsinging

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

You people defending The Fixer have to understand that those of us who hate it don't want dour and angsty or anything that was in the 90's.....we just hate THIS song. Just THIS song. We don't want Vitalogy Part 2, we don't want Jeremy Goes To College. We just don't want THIS ONE SONG because we think it's horrible.

Got Some IS 90s... it's just like stbc, brain of j, or any other number of fast angry, aggressive riff rockers.

So what does that have to do with The Fixer?

I must have confused your post with someone else's. I could've sworn I saw something about digging Got Some in there. I think the bar exam is frying my brain.

PJammin'

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it's not that we don't like it because of any pre-conceived notion of what a Pearl Jam song should be or because we're too pretentious to enjoy a "fun and goofy" song, we just think it's a bad song.

ok, you have 10 others. hopefully, they won't be bad to you.

norm

soulsinging wrote:

I must have confused your post with someone else's. I could've sworn I saw something about digging Got Some in there. I think the bar exam is frying my brain.

dude how can you study for the bar while reading this drivel?

man you need to hook up with a la firm...i might need a really good lawyer one day

Ledbetterman10

PJammin' wrote:

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it's not that we don't like it because of any pre-conceived notion of what a Pearl Jam song should be or because we're too pretentious to enjoy a "fun and goofy" song, we just think it's a bad song.

ok, you have 10 others. hopefully, they won't be bad to you.

yeah totally, and I don't think they will. That's what' I'm saying.....people are talking like if you don't like The Fixer, you can't like the rest of the album and/or you don't like new Pearl Jam music anymore. It's driving me batty.

soulsinging

norm wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

I must have confused your post with someone else's. I could've sworn I saw something about digging Got Some in there. I think the bar exam is frying my brain.

dude how can you study for the bar while reading this drivel?

man you need to hook up with a la firm...i might need a really good lawyer one day

I already am, but I don't start until Sept and I've got to take the bar first. And this place is a great forum for venting my frustration with life for the next week until the worst 3 days of my life are over.

Cliffy6745

I will never pretend to be Pearl Jam's biggest fan. I have seen them many times and love the music, that said....this song stinks in my opinion.

You really don't have to love every song the band makes, my parents are huge Beatles and Clapton (my favorite) fans and there are plently of songs by each of them that they are not fans of.

I will never try and push my music opinion on anyone else. Everyone has their own taste and that is the beautiful thing about music. There is nothing I hate more than people that lecture others that their taste in music stinks or they are wrong about their opinion of a song or band.

Some people will like the song, some people won't. I don't but please don't lecture me why the song is so great.

Gary Carter

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I will never pretend to be Pearl Jam's biggest fan. I have seen them many times and love the music, that said....this song stinks in my opinion.

You really don't have to love every song the band makes, my parents are huge Beatles and Clapton (my favorite) fans and there are plently of songs by each of them that they are not fans of.

I will never try and push my music opinion on anyone else. Everyone has their own taste and that is the beautiful thing about music. There is nothing I hate more than people that lecture others that their taste in music stinks or they are wrong about their opinion of a song or band.

Some people will like the song, some people won't. I don't but please don't lecture me why the song is so great.

agreed

i think 1/2 full is a great song and everyone pretty much hates it. if i dont like, i dont like it. i dont need people throwing there bs reasons as to why i should like it.

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

jwillmo wrote:

My favorite parts where when someone kept referring to Nickelback as bubblegum. Yeah, I'm sure their "I like your pants around your feet" song would have been HUGE in the early 60s. And whoever said The Cure never wrote any poppy songs, that was funny too. And kept going back and forth - "No I meant they never wrote any poppy LYRICS!"

Worth noting that both of these were the same poster, who is clearly a musical genius. :roll:

and you think you're one. i never said i was a musical genius. least have some balls and quote me.

Gary Carter

pjalive21 wrote:

im just stunned that people on here defending this song can still rip on Nickelback after hearing The Crapper, i mean The Fixer

seriously someone said "there is nothing wrong with a pop song"??? these are the same people who rip all these "mainstream" bands but god forbid Pearl Jam does it and its freakin groundbreaking

lets get real they are chasing the dollar they arent worried about progression anymore...i mean c'mon a Target deal? Virgin Mobile?

+1

don't forget the verizon deal last year or the big screens at the concerts last year plugging verizon

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

why do people cry so much if somebody hates a song? i swear half of these people are crying onto their keyboards as they scream that we all hate Pearl Jam and aren't real fans!

i picture half these people as the psychotic obsessive old women in the front row at concerts who wont talk to you unless your Ten Club number is in the low digits and think they're married to Eddie.

Jeanwah

MrSmith wrote:

why do people cry so much if somebody hates a song? i swear half of these people are crying onto their keyboards as they scream that we all hate Pearl Jam and aren't real fans!

i picture half these people as the psychotic obsessive old women in the front row at concerts who wont talk to you unless your Ten Club number is in the low digits and think they're married to Eddie.

I'm guessing because some people expect blind devotion and an absence of independent thinking...

It's funny because anyone who doesn't care for the Fixer isn't breathing down any other person's neck as to why they may like it. Haven't seen any of that yet. Yet, cop an independent (and unpopular) opinion, and watch out!

Gary Carter

soulsinging wrote:

Yeah, it's very clear here that when you say that "it was the 50s when they made those songs", you obviously meant that the SOUND was 1950's and you know they made those songs in the 60's. :roll: Kinda like how anytime you and metsfan say a song is not poppy to bolster your argument and everyone points out that said song is very catchy and poppy (the cure, satan's bed, etc), you immediately claim you meant only the lyrics. Or when you say Nickelback is poppy and everyone asks what you're smoking, you clarify that you mean it's mainstream and not deep enough. You're the king of the backpedal.

By all means, hate the song. But be honest about it. It's got nothing to do with selling out or not taking new directions (which this song is for PJ), or anything else... it's the fact that the song is fun and goofy, and you want your PJ as dour and angsty as it was in the 90's.

i never said it wasn't poppy. get your fucking facts right dude. i said it was to poppy and sounds like something a top 40 band would do.

soulsinging

metsfan wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

jwillmo wrote:

My favorite parts where when someone kept referring to Nickelback as bubblegum. Yeah, I'm sure their "I like your pants around your feet" song would have been HUGE in the early 60s. And whoever said The Cure never wrote any poppy songs, that was funny too. And kept going back and forth - "No I meant they never wrote any poppy LYRICS!"

Worth noting that both of these were the same poster, who is clearly a musical genius. :roll:

and you think you're one. i never said i was a musical genius. least have some balls and quote me.

It was sarcasm. And you know I never claimed any sort of musical genius either, I just said you aren't one. I'm all low brow man, give me something fun... as jack irons said "a mindless good time."

soulsinging

Jeanwah wrote:

MrSmith wrote:

why do people cry so much if somebody hates a song? i swear half of these people are crying onto their keyboards as they scream that we all hate Pearl Jam and aren't real fans!

i picture half these people as the psychotic obsessive old women in the front row at concerts who wont talk to you unless your Ten Club number is in the low digits and think they're married to Eddie.

I'm guessing because some people expect blind devotion and an absence of independent thinking...

It's funny because anyone who doesn't care for the Fixer isn't breathing down any other person's neck as to why they may like it. Haven't seen any of that yet. Yet, cop an independent (and unpopular) opinion, and watch out!

Did you read Crazy's posts calling us all lemmings for liking a song that was obviously objectively terrible?

soulsinging

metsfan wrote:

soulsinging wrote:

Yeah, it's very clear here that when you say that "it was the 50s when they made those songs", you obviously meant that the SOUND was 1950's and you know they made those songs in the 60's. :roll: Kinda like how anytime you and metsfan say a song is not poppy to bolster your argument and everyone points out that said song is very catchy and poppy (the cure, satan's bed, etc), you immediately claim you meant only the lyrics. Or when you say Nickelback is poppy and everyone asks what you're smoking, you clarify that you mean it's mainstream and not deep enough. You're the king of the backpedal.

By all means, hate the song. But be honest about it. It's got nothing to do with selling out or not taking new directions (which this song is for PJ), or anything else... it's the fact that the song is fun and goofy, and you want your PJ as dour and angsty as it was in the 90's.

i never said it wasn't poppy. get your fucking facts right dude. i said it was to poppy and sounds like something a top 40 band would do.

You said the Cure weren't poppy. That's what I was referring to.