Don't you think if there was any shred of evidence that it were true the Clinton's and their political machine would have made this an issue during the early stages of the primaries. :roll:
Look folks.
I don't "hate" Obama, any more so than I "hate" just about every other faux-leader that "our" (certainly NOT so) political machine has fixed us up with.
The SIMPLE FACT OF THE MATTER -- despite what lovers of the system like Jlew falsely retort -- IS THAT OBAMA HAS NOT RELEASED HIS LONG FORM BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
This raises questions \ concerns as to WHY.
You can deny that this is so (that the form provided, is NOT the form requested) -- hey, Jlew did that in THIS thread -- but IT TAKES FIVE MINUTES TO PROVE.
Go look it up. Read the above article.
It is CERTAINLY SO.
HE HAS NOT RELEASED HIS LONG FORM CERTIFICATE.
I'm not saying he isn't a natural born citizen,
but WHAT IS HE HIDING?
Why not just release your stupid fucking certificate
Is it really THAT "nutty" to ask that a president provide a record showing the location of birth and attending physician? Sheesh.
No president or candidate in the history of US elections has either. John McCain didn't either. The only reason it's a big deal to some people is because Obama's black and has a name that doesn't sound nice and WASP-y. Hawaii has vouched for his birth cert, as has every other official that matters. Not one state official with any sort of authority or relevance has raised these claims. Just internet yahoos with too much time on their hands.
PS --
here is one guy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYrZQLbFhb0
who claims that Obama legitimately does NOT have a long form certificate due to the way Hawaii did forms half a century ago.
If this IS true,
why do they not just say "he doesn't have one".
At least it would be honest, instead of playing games.
Probably because he has whatever Hawaii gave him and when people asked he said "yeah, I've got that, I'm good." What the fuck is a long form birth cert? I don't know if I have one. But if someone asked me, I'd say I do because I have a birth cert, know I was born here, and have no clue what the hell else you'd want from me. Then I'd tell them to go fuck themselves for sticking their nose into my business. I wouldn't give you my social security card to satisfy your busybodiness either.
Once again it was confirmed the birth certificate is real. Now can we get on with more important things like how much of a hippie communist scumbag young Malia is for wearing a peace shirt?! :roll:
I really think the 24-hour news cycle, and it's voracious appetite for any news, no matter how far fetched and insignificant, is as polarizing a force as any in this country.
Once again it was confirmed the birth certificate is real. Now can we get on with more important things like how much of a hippie communist scumbag young Malia is for wearing a peace shirt?! :roll:
I really think the 24-hour news cycle, and it's voracious appetite for any news, no matter how far fetched and insignificant, is as polarizing a force as any in this country.
i agree with you here. gabers. well put.
this is a settled issue.
what do these people want? a re-vote? if everything was to be done over and if obama was expelled and inelligible to run again i think that biden or hillary would trounce mccain and palin again. there is nobody in the gop that could beat any of those two right now and i say that because the gop are not even offering any ideas on how to fix things, only opposing what has been proposed for the sake of politics. do not think that a vast majority of americans are so stupid to not notice that. they want the country to move forward and can not have their time wasted by people who are grasping at technicality straws because they have nothing else to use against obama.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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No president or candidate in the history of US elections has either. John McCain didn't either. The only reason it's a big deal to some people is because Obama's black and has a name that doesn't sound nice and WASP-y. Hawaii has vouched for his birth cert, as has every other official that matters. Not one state official with any sort of authority or relevance has raised these claims. Just internet yahoos with too much time on their hands.
Probably because he has whatever Hawaii gave him and when people asked he said "yeah, I've got that, I'm good." What the fuck is a long form birth cert? I don't know if I have one. But if someone asked me, I'd say I do because I have a birth cert, know I was born here, and have no clue what the hell else you'd want from me. Then I'd tell them to go fuck themselves for sticking their nose into my business. I wouldn't give you my social security card to satisfy your busybodiness either.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 ... e_usa.html
And who elects these people:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-star ... 45507.html
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_ ... ertificate
I really think the 24-hour news cycle, and it's voracious appetite for any news, no matter how far fetched and insignificant, is as polarizing a force as any in this country.
this is a settled issue.
what do these people want? a re-vote? if everything was to be done over and if obama was expelled and inelligible to run again i think that biden or hillary would trounce mccain and palin again. there is nobody in the gop that could beat any of those two right now and i say that because the gop are not even offering any ideas on how to fix things, only opposing what has been proposed for the sake of politics. do not think that a vast majority of americans are so stupid to not notice that. they want the country to move forward and can not have their time wasted by people who are grasping at technicality straws because they have nothing else to use against obama.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."