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LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
edited September 2009 in The Porch
is this true? who here likes one but hates (or dislikes) the other? Sounds like it came straight out of the Self Titled sessions.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,942
    MrSmith wrote:
    is this true? who here likes one but hates (or dislikes) the other? Sounds like it came straight out of the Self Titled sessions.

    I think it may be a rejected song from those sessions.
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    I LOVE Avocado, dislike most of The Fixer, but love Got Some so I don't know.
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  • OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,398
    WRONG

    Love Avocado, dislike the Fixer, love Got Some
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  • tcaporaletcaporale Posts: 1,577
    Well, the first two posters are wrong. First off, it's good enough that it would be one of the better songs on their last album, as I'm sure it'll be with the new one.

    And second, I like all of Pearl Jam's albums and I still like this song. Stop generalizing people to justify your dislike for it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Don't listen to it then.
  • Strangest GuyStrangest Guy Posts: 46
    I don't think this would be a reject from Avocado, lyrically it seems to be coming from a very different place compared to something like World Wide Suicide.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    MrSmith wrote:
    is this true? who here likes one but hates (or dislikes) the other? Sounds like it came straight out of the Self Titled sessions.

    Might be the opposite. You've got 2 posters here that love s/t and don't like the Fixer, and I don't like s/t but really like the Fixer ;)
  • Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,567
    i like avocado but fixer sucks.
  • PearlJamPatriotPearlJamPatriot Posts: 2,426
    I love self titled, but am not all that crazy about any of the 5 songs I have heard thus far, though i am really not judging the songs Ed did solo too much right now because they will probably sound much better on the album.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    edited July 2009
    tcaporale wrote:
    Well, the first two posters are wrong. First off, it's good enough that it would be one of the better songs on their last album, as I'm sure it'll be with the new one.

    And second, I like all of Pearl Jam's albums and I still like this song. Stop generalizing people to justify your dislike for it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Don't listen to it then.
    im not justifying. i just think if someone asked me if it was good, i'd say if they liked Avacado they might like this. my first reaction was it sounded like Big Wave or something from that.

    (i admit i dont like either much except for a couple S/T songs)
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,942
    tcaporale wrote:
    Well, the first two posters are wrong. First off, it's good enough that it would be one of the better songs on their last album, as I'm sure it'll be with the new one.

    I love how you say I'm wrong...as if you know. I mean, I'm just speculating. Maybe they felt it sounded too much like Unemployable to include it on the last album. It definitely sounds more like Unemployable, Big Wave and Marker in the Sand than it does Got Some.

    I just can't believe this is the lead single. I mean whether you liked Worldwide Sucicde or not, at least it rocked and said something more than "yeah yeah yeah."
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  • glbglb Posts: 356
    The Fixer doesn't really remind me of S/T. I'm liking The Fixer, I never got all that into S/T. I like a few songs, but they aren't on heavy rotation.
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  • TallGuyCMTallGuyCM Posts: 328
    If this is gonna be "one of the better songs on the album" as some of you have predicted, this is gonna be an underwhelming album to say the least.
  • GardenpartyGardenparty Posts: 1,910
    glb wrote:
    The Fixer doesn't really remind me of S/T. I'm liking The Fixer, I never got all that into S/T. I like a few songs, but they aren't on heavy rotation.


    I agree with this. I'm enjoying the Fixer more than most of S/T
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  • TallGuyCMTallGuyCM Posts: 328
    glb wrote:
    The Fixer doesn't really remind me of S/T.

    How can it not? It's Eddie's super-spiffed up studio sounding vocals again. I don't think this is even debatable. Unless we're talking about the music. But vocal-wise, it sounds just like Unemployable where it sounds like the vocals are very layered or something.
  • Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Ledbetterman10 wrote:
    tcaporale wrote:
    I just can't believe this is the lead single. I mean whether you liked Worldwide Sucicde or not, at least it rocked and said something more than "yeah yeah yeah."
    Yeah, whereas "Got Some" just repeats, "Got Some if you need it"......

    Fixer has much better vocal harmony/beat than Got Some imo.
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  • glbglb Posts: 356
    TallGuyCM wrote:
    If this is gonna be "one of the better songs on the album" as some of you have predicted, this is gonna be an underwhelming album to say the least.

    how can anyone know what's going to be one of the better songs on the album until they've heard the whole album? :lol:
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  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    Not at all. There's nothing that happy on Avocado. It wouldn't have fit. Plus it doesn't sound as flat or tinny as most of the songs on Avocado.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    LikeAnOcean wrote:
    Not at all. There's nothing that happy on Avocado. It wouldn't have fit. Plus it doesn't sound as flat or tinny as most of the songs on Avocado.
    sounds like they just rewrote the lyrics. musically its similar (but with better production). But a lot of the songs on Avacado weren't angry either. Severed Hand, Big Wave, maybe Parachutes. Cant remember the lyrics to all of them offhand, but they were kinda happy or neutral.
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    TallGuyCM wrote:
    glb wrote:
    The Fixer doesn't really remind me of S/T.

    How can it not? It's Eddie's super-spiffed up studio sounding vocals again. I don't think this is even debatable. Unless we're talking about the music. But vocal-wise, it sounds just like Unemployable where it sounds like the vocals are very layered or something.
    yeah his voice sounds tweaked a lot.
  • the wolfthe wolf Posts: 7,027
    i love avocado and i'm digging the fixer. and i do not hear anything that would make me think they sound like they were written at the same time. to my ear it is a much different , newer sound on the fixer.
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  • mach271mach271 Posts: 562
    tcaporale wrote:
    Well, the first two posters are wrong. First off, it's good enough that it would be one of the better songs on their last album, as I'm sure it'll be with the new one.

    And second, I like all of Pearl Jam's albums and I still like this song. Stop generalizing people to justify your dislike for it. If you don't like it, you don't like it. Don't listen to it then.


    Well said!
  • Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    I don't think it sounds like an Avocado song. The riff isn't lame enough.
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    Avocado is my least favorite PJ album..........

    but I am really liking the sound of The Fixer.

    People comparing it to Unemployable.......the only thing comparable is that both have a catchy chorus. Unemployable was pretty weak musically/vocally on the verses.....this song holds my attention all the way through.
  • funnygirlfunnygirl Posts: 529
    LOVE! I LOVE both Avocado..and the fixer...Just had to add mine! :D
  • Smarter_Than_USmarter_Than_U Posts: 515
    I really don't know when it was decided around here by the peanut gallery that the last album (Avocado) was a bad album. Seriously? If we are going to start pointing fingers, Riot Act is a weak album as far as this band's catalogue is concerned. But the last album--the last album was awesome and very exciting to see this band have a fire under them again. I have a feeling the new album will only build on that momentum.

    And for all the people who hate the new stuff but LOVE No Code or whatever, I really have to wonder if you were even around when No Code came out? Many of you seem to be glorifying a past that you didn't even partake in (I did FYI). I have loved this band through thick and thin for half my life and this new shit is thick like my lunch lady's ass. Anyone who thinks different just sounds fucking stupid to me. Sorry.
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  • IamBETELIamBETEL Posts: 110
    I loved Avocado and I'm begining to love this song.

    I don't think this song is anything like Unemployeable other the choruses being slightly similiar. One thing I really dislike is how layered his voice is there's a few spots where I don't think Eddie could hit those notes (lol) and I agree with the fading out being really lame.

    I think this song will be great live. I love change, I want to be able to keep listening to Pearl Jam forever but eventually you get bored of the same stuff and I don't mind the popier sound at all.
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  • FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    Smarter_Than_U wrote:
    I really don't know when it was decided around here by the peanut gallery that the last album (Avocado) was a bad album. Seriously? If we are going to start pointing fingers, Riot Act is a weak album as far as this band's catalogue is concerned. But the last album--the last album was awesome and very exciting to see this band have a fire under them again. I have a feeling the new album will only build on that momentum.

    And for all the people who hate the new stuff but LOVE No Code or whatever, I really have to wonder if you were even around when No Code came out? Many of you seem to be glorifying a past that you didn't even partake in (I did FYI). I have loved this band through thick and thin for half my life and this new shit is thick like my lunch lady's ass. Anyone who thinks different just sounds fucking stupid to me. Sorry.


    Agree with you on Riot Act and Avocado. Avocado was such a 180 degree turn from the dreary Riot Act and I love it. I still listen to it a lot. It did seem like they had a fire again. Riot Act sounded like a band ready to quit.

    But I still don't like The Fixer that much. But I don't really hate it either. I just think better lyrics in the verses would have helped tremedously.

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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    OceansJenny wrote:
    WRONG

    Love Avocado, dislike the Fixer, love Got Some


    How is an OPINION wrong?

    It's just different than yours....

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  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    Evacuation Rules wrote:
    I don't think it sounds like an Avocado song. The riff isn't lame enough.


    Just for fun, how about if you post some of your riffs you've written for us to judge?

    Pretty please?

    really.........
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
  • Snoopy Died For Our SinsSnoopy Died For Our Sins Posts: 2,608
    the wolf wrote:
    i love avocado and i'm digging the fixer. and i do not hear anything that would make me think they sound like they were written at the same time. to my ear it is a much different , newer sound on the fixer.


    we may playfully scrap, but I totally agree with ya here.......... :)
    "No way to save someone who won't take the rope,and just lets go..."
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