Ok Computer is regarded by many to be the best alternative album of all time, the Bends is also mentoed as one of the best alternative albums ever.
Pearl Jam has a ton of good albums, but I can't say any of them are 'great'
:roll: Why are you even here? I heard Thom Yorke's pussy is sore. Maybe you could go rub it for him.
I could say the same for everyone here with Eddie Vedder and anything the band puts out. I don't follow either band blindly. Pearl Jam is my favorite band, but if I think they fucked up on something I'll say it, I don't have a blind love for them where I stick up for everything they do.
For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
"Fixxer" i.e. Get Some wasn't that bad, I thought it was good. Riot Act sucks, so do Radiohead and everyone on the Cavs except for Lebron
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For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
agree with everything you have posted in this thread. i think a lot of people are scared to admit when PJ puts out a bad album because they feel it will make them less of a fan. and in return, you have a lot of people getting forced into something that they may not like.
i didn't like riot act since day one, and once the honeymoon was over with avocado, i probably haven't listened to it more than five times since. your comment about their conan performance was the same opinion i had about avocado... bunch of older guys putting out a mediocre (at best) rock album to try and prove they still have it. i can't help to think that backspacer is going to be similiar (hope i am very wrong).
pearl jam will forever be my favorite band, but yes... radiohead rocks. and rocks hard.
For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
"Fixxer" i.e. Get Some wasn't that bad, I thought it was good. Riot Act sucks, so do Radiohead and everyone on the Cavs except for Lebron
Ugh. Radiohead is terrible. Bunch of slow wailey music. BLAHHH. Someone made me get that yellowly ugly album with the guy on it and I ended up selling it on eBay after 1 listen.
That is their first album your referring to and is not a good measuring stick for the band. I like Radiohead and I have not listened to that album since 1996. Everything else they have put out is amazing although I thought Hail to the Thief had some rough spots. I would suggest starting with the album "The Bends".
Ugh. Radiohead is terrible. Bunch of slow wailey music. BLAHHH. Someone made me get that yellowly ugly album with the guy on it and I ended up selling it on eBay after 1 listen.
That is their first album your referring to and is not a good measuring stick for the band. I like Radiohead and I have not listened to that album since 1996. Everything else they have put out is amazing although I thought Hail to the Thief had some rough spots. I would suggest starting with the album "The Bends".
+1. My progression in terms of getting into the band was: OK Computer -> The Bends -> In Rainbows -> Hail to the Thief -> Kid A -> Amnesiac. If you like electronic music, go backwards
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Ok Computer is regarded by many to be the best alternative album of all time, the Bends is also mentoed as one of the best alternative albums ever.
Pearl Jam has a ton of good albums, but I can't say any of them are 'great'
Ten is widely considered the 3rd best debut album of all time, behind Led Zep I and Appetite For Destruction.
I dunno what qualifies as a great album, to you, but if Ten-Yield aren't great albums I've never heard one.
are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
Ok Computer is regarded by many to be the best alternative album of all time, the Bends is also mentoed as one of the best alternative albums ever.
Pearl Jam has a ton of good albums, but I can't say any of them are 'great'
Ten is widely considered the 3rd best debut album of all time, behind Led Zep I and Appetite For Destruction.
I dunno what qualifies as a great album, to you, but if Ten-Yield aren't great albums I've never heard one.
are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
"Fixxer" i.e. Get Some wasn't that bad, I thought it was good. Riot Act sucks, so do Radiohead and everyone on the Cavs except for Lebron
yeah Shaq sucks
He's apart of the new Cavs, haven't even seen him play with team yet. : P I was refering to the Playoffs Cavs, or Lebron and 9 other bodies on the court
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are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
This speaks volumes. Rubber Soul and Exile, debut albums?? And you're relying on RS to find out the best albums.
The opinion of 25 people is a ridiculously small sample on a planet of over 7 billion, or even the smaller sample of 300 million americans. Further more, artists don't always have good taste. So, these factors do not make it a legit list. Rolling Stone should be read ONLY to keep up on music and entertainment news, mainstream politics with a leftist viewpoint, and their opinions should be read only for entertainment value.
Also, my favorite PJ album is Yield, but even from a mainstream perspective, you can't include Ten and Vitalogy without Vs.
I don't like Radiohead much anymore, not since Ok Computer, but at least they played Atlanta on their last tour. That's more than I can say for Pearl Jam.
They just are. They're much more consistent and just have so many mindblowing songs...really, since The Bends, everything they've done has been at the least very good. And to those who are trying to justify their opinions by calling Thom Yorke a pussy, how old are you? Why, because he's a not a fucking balls to the wall, in your face guy like Eddie used to be? Get over yourselves, the guy is pretty much a songwriting genius.
And I don't understand the "boring" argument. They have just as many up-tempo songs as ballads, it just so happens that they're pretty fucking skilled at writing the more haunting, ethereal kind of stuff.
I mean, check out "Bodysnatchers" if all you care about is how hard they rock.
the fact is that you could practice hard and be Pearl Jam. There is nothing innovative about them. They have 2 good guitar players, a solid rhythm section and a very good lead singer. You couldn't practice and be Radiohead. You can't teach the shit they do. That's why I say they are more talented. Pearl Jam is very very very good, but there are cover bands that sound just like them. You never see a Radiohead cover band and it's not due to lack of popularity or demand, it's because most their songs are too technical to play right.
the fact is that you could practice hard and be Pearl Jam. There is nothing innovative about them. They have 2 good guitar players, a solid rhythm section and a very good lead singer. You couldn't practice and be Radiohead. You can't teach the shit they do. That's why I say they are more talented. Pearl Jam is very very very good, but there are cover bands that sound just like them. You never see a Radiohead cover band and it's not due to lack of popularity or demand, it's because most their songs are too technical to play right.
There are more the a few Radiohead cover bands, like Karma Police, etc......
Both bands put on great live shows. I've seen Radiohead three times and each show has been memorable. But both band do have strange touring ideologies of late. At least Radiohead came to Indy.
Both bands put on great live shows. I've seen many great PJ shows, but no band has ever topped Radiohead's performance at Bonnaroo in 2006. Pearl Jam is still my favorite band though.
The radiohead show in Dallas last year was by FAR the best concert I have ever been to. Just mindblowing what they can do. To each his own about if you like Radiohead or not but you cannot knock their talent.
Aww, reading about PJ and RH in this thread makes me nostalgic! I have been to ZERO concerts in the past 5 years...but the last two I attended were Pearl Jam and Radiohead in the summer of noughty three! They played the same venue when I lived in New England.
I got stuck in the traffic jam of cars filing into the carpark for the RH show, so I missed seeing the band take the stage. I was treated to the sounds of "Creep" as I walked up to the building. They closed out with "Idioteque," which had me jumping up and down.
PJ had an especially personal moment: Ed sang "I Am Mine," which he wrote after seeing his fans die at Roskilde. Four months earlier, my sister walked away from the Station Nightclub Fire where exactly 100 other people died. "All the Innocents lost at one time. We're safe tonight."
I have to admit, the PJ show I saw in 2000 was much more poignant. It took place just 2 months after Roskilde. A barefoot Eddie was trying to hide under a full beard. A fan gave him 2 carnations (one red, one yellow.) He was deeply touched, and put the flowers in his mic stand by wrapping them in loops of wire. He interacted with the audience more than any other show I'd been a part of. When we applauded the band, he applauded us. I had never seen him so obviously Loving and appreciative. Inappropriately but purposefully, the band performed "Jeremy" with its dead lying in pools of maroon below, and "Alive." To top it all off, Mike (clad in white leather) smashed his expensive guitar into the stage! Bliss.
...........................Now I live in L.A. and have the chance to see PJ in a small venue! It's not walking distance like the Ed solo shows I missed last year, but Universal City is just a 15 minute ride on the subway. Four concerts on my Birthday Week! I MUST BE THERE!!!
I drove for 2.5 hours today...
I listened to an old mix of live and rare PJ...
then In Rainbows, start to finish.
Not once did I think about which band was 'better'.
They both fucking rock.
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Ok Computer is regarded by many to be the best alternative album of all time, the Bends is also mentoed as one of the best alternative albums ever.
Pearl Jam has a ton of good albums, but I can't say any of them are 'great'
:roll: Why are you even here? I heard Thom Yorke's pussy is sore. Maybe you could go rub it for him.
I could say the same for everyone here with Eddie Vedder and anything the band puts out. I don't follow either band blindly. Pearl Jam is my favorite band, but if I think they fucked up on something I'll say it, I don't have a blind love for them where I stick up for everything they do.
For example, I think Fixxer or whatever that song was on Conan sucked. It sounded like a bunch of 50 year olds with no inspiration left coming out and trying to push something to prove they still have it. But the next day i was blasted for saying it while there were a ton of people saying things like "It grew on me after I listened to it a couple times". People force themselves into believing everything the band does is right. I Don't
"Fixxer" i.e. Get Some wasn't that bad, I thought it was good. Riot Act sucks, so do Radiohead and everyone on the Cavs except for Lebron
agree with everything you have posted in this thread. i think a lot of people are scared to admit when PJ puts out a bad album because they feel it will make them less of a fan. and in return, you have a lot of people getting forced into something that they may not like.
i didn't like riot act since day one, and once the honeymoon was over with avocado, i probably haven't listened to it more than five times since. your comment about their conan performance was the same opinion i had about avocado... bunch of older guys putting out a mediocre (at best) rock album to try and prove they still have it. i can't help to think that backspacer is going to be similiar (hope i am very wrong).
pearl jam will forever be my favorite band, but yes... radiohead rocks. and rocks hard.
yeah Shaq sucks
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Ten is widely considered the 3rd best debut album of all time, behind Led Zep I and Appetite For Destruction.
I dunno what qualifies as a great album, to you, but if Ten-Yield aren't great albums I've never heard one.
are you joking? who ranks it #3? ahead of Exile on Main St? ahead of Rubber Soul?
just for kicks I looked at Rolling Stone's list of the top 500 (not saying they know anything, but it's comprised of opinions of about 25 people including artists so it's somehwat of a legit list)
Radiohead had 3: 110 The Bends, 162 OK Computer 428 Kid A
Pearl Jam had 2: 207 Ten, 492 Vitalogy
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/ ... all_time/5
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He's apart of the new Cavs, haven't even seen him play with team yet. : P I was refering to the Playoffs Cavs, or Lebron and 9 other bodies on the court
This speaks volumes. Rubber Soul and Exile, debut albums?? And you're relying on RS to find out the best albums.
Like I said, I missed the debut part. And I agree Rolling Stone sucks
Also, my favorite PJ album is Yield, but even from a mainstream perspective, you can't include Ten and Vitalogy without Vs.
They just are. They're much more consistent and just have so many mindblowing songs...really, since The Bends, everything they've done has been at the least very good. And to those who are trying to justify their opinions by calling Thom Yorke a pussy, how old are you? Why, because he's a not a fucking balls to the wall, in your face guy like Eddie used to be? Get over yourselves, the guy is pretty much a songwriting genius.
And I don't understand the "boring" argument. They have just as many up-tempo songs as ballads, it just so happens that they're pretty fucking skilled at writing the more haunting, ethereal kind of stuff.
I mean, check out "Bodysnatchers" if all you care about is how hard they rock.
Give me some of the drugs you are on as this is a riot.
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Mexico=1, Colombia=1
HA!!! Awesome.
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
There are more the a few Radiohead cover bands, like Karma Police, etc......
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdACbulx ... re=related
Meeting in the Aisle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8LXwqiIa5Q
SHOW COUNT: (164) 1990's=3, 2000's=53, 2010/20's=108, US=118, CAN=15, Europe=20 ,New Zealand=4, Australia=5
Mexico=1, Colombia=1
Both bands put on great live shows. I've seen many great PJ shows, but no band has ever topped Radiohead's performance at Bonnaroo in 2006. Pearl Jam is still my favorite band though.
I got stuck in the traffic jam of cars filing into the carpark for the RH show, so I missed seeing the band take the stage. I was treated to the sounds of "Creep" as I walked up to the building. They closed out with "Idioteque," which had me jumping up and down.
PJ had an especially personal moment: Ed sang "I Am Mine," which he wrote after seeing his fans die at Roskilde. Four months earlier, my sister walked away from the Station Nightclub Fire where exactly 100 other people died. "All the Innocents lost at one time. We're safe tonight."
I have to admit, the PJ show I saw in 2000 was much more poignant. It took place just 2 months after Roskilde. A barefoot Eddie was trying to hide under a full beard. A fan gave him 2 carnations (one red, one yellow.) He was deeply touched, and put the flowers in his mic stand by wrapping them in loops of wire. He interacted with the audience more than any other show I'd been a part of. When we applauded the band, he applauded us. I had never seen him so obviously Loving and appreciative. Inappropriately but purposefully, the band performed "Jeremy" with its dead lying in pools of maroon below, and "Alive." To top it all off, Mike (clad in white leather) smashed his expensive guitar into the stage! Bliss.
...........................Now I live in L.A. and have the chance to see PJ in a small venue! It's not walking distance like the Ed solo shows I missed last year, but Universal City is just a 15 minute ride on the subway. Four concerts on my Birthday Week! I MUST BE THERE!!!
I listened to an old mix of live and rare PJ...
then In Rainbows, start to finish.
Not once did I think about which band was 'better'.
They both fucking rock.