"There is not a ceiling on troop levels in Afghanistan"
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PearlJain wrote:gimmesometruth27 wrote:PearlJain wrote:This little 'Shout Out" goes to Triumphet Angel. I think we can agree that War sucks. But you'll have to bear with me on this, because I don't think I've ever corresponded (or met) an actual Pacifist (Conscientious Objector) before. I liked your Elementary School response that people should just "object" and then run-away. Where would our Lives, Liberty and Freedoms be without our military? (And Mr or Mrs "Gimmesome Truth27 age or IQ?...just curious.) I digress - NO- I don't want a pat on the back - but since you suck - don't talk to me anymore) Versus going to war - Here's a better idea - lets give the world a huge hug and that will make it all better. Understand that a lot of countries would like to dominate our nation - for that matter - all Westernization as we know it. Three words for ya - Move To Canada. However - I know you are certainly not suggesting abandoning the U.S. So - I sit here and await your intellectual response to an alternative.
ok here goes. a little about me since you asked. age 34, 2 master's degrees. how many degrees do you have? judging by reading your posts i would guess a high school diploma, or maybe a GED since that is all you need to get into the service these days. since you only see things in black and white i can surmise that your iq is a "tad below average". you can't even spell website, rather typing it "websight". your posts make no sense, and worst of all you can't figure out that many people on here are laughing at you. anyone that chooses to go into a career where they take orders suggests the inability to think enough to give them themselves. by continuing to bring up your service it tells me that you are bragging or asking for approval or something. i do not brag about my occupation, but then again i am in the business of helping people so i do not need to brag to feel good about myself or reassure myself that i am doing the right thing. the military is not as necessary as you might think. i view it as a good way to waste a few trillion dollars a year. if the pentagon/military budget was not so much, maybe we could afford to do the other things we need to do. you sound like a complete idiot by saying "lets give the world a huge hug" because nobody is saying that and that is not what i was implying. do not put words in my mouth. all i was saying is sometimes it takes a more gentle hand in foreign relations rather the cleched fist that bush used to use. you get better results by working together than bombing the hell out of someone. you were railing against obama for doing the exact same thing as bush, and if you fail to see that then you are living in a fantasy world. in spite of what you may be thinking you were not defending MY freedom. that was the bullshit simplistic third grade excuse that your government came up with shortly after 9/11 to get the war drums beating.my freedom was never threatened by any foreign foe, but it was threatened by the bush administration with their lawless programs. lastly, as far as moving to canada, i appreciate the suggestion, but i am not going to sell my house in this market. i do not agree with you on anything, but i would never suggest you leave the country.
america, fuck yeah!! :roll:
Wow! TWO Master Degrees! Quite Impressive. Glad you don't feel the need to "brag about yourself" ( like I apparently do - according to your post). Who is the attention seeking one now? Awww - do you need a pat on the back or something? I'm currently working on my one and only Masters Degree. I only feel a need to have ONE. (I would hate to be in your shoes - with student loan debt.) I was in the Air Force - since you were so curious. You should consider some Anger Management Courses. Hope I spelled everything correctly this time! I would hate to see you REALLY angry. BTW - I disagree with you, too.
i was not bragging about myself. you implied that i was young and ignorant, as you did to byrnzie in the other thread, so i corrected you. that is quite condescending of you and is unbecoming of you. if you knew me you would know that i am actually quite modest. i think you are the attention seeker by being on this board and taking shots at people and picking arguments with people and calling them names and appearing offended when they call you out on it. the band is a left leaning band, as are many many of their fans. you act surprised that there are so many "leftists" and "libs" around here. it seems you log in attempting to goad people into an argument. had you not taken a personal shot at me, or triumphantangel i would have had no need to call you out on your ignorance. by the way i do not need anger management, it seems to me you are the one talking about being so angry and frustrated with obama, the media, the "facist" voters, the wars, the way palin has been treated, etc etc.. you seem to be in denial that the country has changed course and has moved to the left. how else can one explain the 7 or 9 million vote difference (i forgot which one)in popular vote in favor of obama, and the butt stomping the gop took in the congressional races. btw, i appreciate your concern for my student loan debt, but undergrad was paid for with an athletic scholarship and the first MS was paid for when i took a graduate assistant position. i only paid for the second one.
not to speak for triumphant angel, but i think she was just pointing out the absurdity of the situation that a volunteer soldier would lament the fact that they have to go to war, when it is evident by watching recruiting commercials that if you enlist, you are probabyy going to have to go to war..its like if you don't want to fight, then don't sign up....i do not need to speak for her because she clearly can handle herself."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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So many things to say.....and so little time (nor motivation -on this websight) to express it. I'll try to bore you however (like so many other posters whom proceed me.) It's really becoming of you (as well) to "gang-up on someone whom has an opposing point-of-view. So What? I didn't call anyone any names-Unless you find offense to the terms Leftist, Liberal, Lefty, Pacisfist, or Conscientious Objector- offensive. Why does it matter to you so much anyway? I am entitled to my opinion and I have been questioned as well- and accused of "Trolling." (I paid my annual dues - just like you- and ordered lots of stuff from this websight.). I also didn't realize how many people on here have a Masters Degree in Proofreading. A very Nobel Calling, BTW. It's better that I take my time and spell everything correctly - or a massive "gang-up" will occur. Apparently -it's a reflection on my intelligence - as far as Pearl Jam 10 Club (Leftist) members are concerned. I will try not to lose any sleep over it. Take Two "Chill Pills" and ignore my posts in the future. What else can I tell ya......it's a very harsh world. Not everyone is a "Lefty." However - it remains a free-world here in the U.S. - and I can still like Pearl Jam Music. (Which I LOVE).
The only thing that brings me to this websight - Is Pearl Jam music. This Pearl Jam Websight currently provides this particular forum (A Moving Train). I, along with numerous others, interject my thoughts I laugh most of the time - when I read these posts - especially with feedback on some of the things I have personally posted. All I can say is that I'm really glad I don't depend on this sight for a self-esteem check.- as I would be greatly disappointed.
Think of me what you will. My life continues...just like yours. Don't take everything so personally. We still live in a Democracy.The greatness of a nation can be judged by the way its animals are treated - Gandhi
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TriumphantAngel wrote:it's pretty simple for me. if you join the military, chances are you will be sent to war. anyone who doesn't understand that is an idiot. you can blame the government all you want for sending you, but they are sending you to do a job that you chose to do.
you don't want to fight these stupid wars. don't join the military. if it ever gets to draft stage again.....resist. what are they going to do if everyone resists?
you can't fight wars without willing participants.
and that's it. the bottom line., war will cease being fought when we stop participationg in it.0
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