Finally! 2 shows in Seattle, only took 5 years!

DischordVision

hey to all the hometown Seattle fans, we got what, correct me if I'm wrong, we waited close to 5 years for. Yeah the Showbox warm up shows before the VFC tour in '04 then the Gorge in '05 & twice in '06 so I think that's right...

benjs

DischordVision wrote:

hey to all the hometown Seattle fans, we got what, correct me if I'm wrong, we waited close to 5 years for. Yeah the Showbox warm up shows before the VFC tour in '04 then the Gorge in '05 & twice in '06 so I think that's right...

Yep, that's right! Guess that means all this pent-up Seattle energy's going to burst into the atmosphere at these shows

musicismylife78

9 years actually. They havent played Seattle proper in 9 years. The 2 Key Arena 2000 shows were the last shows. All the other shows were benefits, or at small venues.

9 years since a seattle stadium/arena show

jlew24asu

I find this very odd as well. don't they all live there?

Up Here In My Tree

No, they don't all live here.
I've always considered the Gorge shows local. I've even always considered Portland shows local (I live there now) because it's only a 3 hour drive and hey, it's worth it right?

Long live PJ!

Woobynab

It's Not even my Birthday!

Indifference71

musicismylife78 wrote:

9 years actually. They havent played Seattle proper in 9 years. The 2 Key Arena 2000 shows were the last shows. All the other shows were benefits, or at small venues.

9 years since a seattle stadium/arena show

That's crazy to think they haven't played a stadium/arena show in Seattle for 9 years. It's about time for Seattle.

SomethingCreative

shits gonna get crazy!

Brisk.

Oh well, at least they have played on your continent even though it is big :P

musicismylife78

my understanding is they have had major trouble getting a place to play. Thats why it took 9 years. And now that I think about it Key Arena and the Tacoma Dome are the only places, real places a band of the stature of Pearl jam could play in Seattle. That in itself is bizaare.

mookeywrench

they played 2 shows at Key Arena in dec. of 2002

6.5 years ago, not nine

SomethingCreative

mookeywrench wrote:

they played 2 shows at Key Arena in dec. of 2002

6.5 years ago, not nine

not by my math

mookeywrench

SomethingCreative wrote:

mookeywrench wrote:

they played 2 shows at Key Arena in dec. of 2002

6.5 years ago, not nine

not by my math

What do you mean?

2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008

6 years

dec of 02 & through june of 09

7 mos.

6.583333333 months if you want to be picky

DischordVision

I don't think it's a matter of the band not being able book a gig, it's Pearl Jam for cryin' out loud! They can play shows almost anywhere in the world. Plus they've been busy w/ other shows throughout the country & other parts the last few years, the side projects, solo albums/soundtrack & we can't gripe since no other city has seen PJ play more than right here :P

over bends

I'm not too big on my Pacific Northwest geography, but how far is the Gorge from Seattle? And do people from Seattle really not go to Gorge shows because of the distance?

mookeywrench

over bends wrote:

I'm not too big on my Pacific Northwest geography, but how far is the Gorge from Seattle? And do people from Seattle really not go to Gorge shows because of the distance?

it's about 2.5 hours away, then about 30-45 minutes off the exit with the other incoming traffic.

It's not an easy drive at night, very monotonous and there's a lot of deer, so you're pretty much required to either camp or find a hotel which adds $$$ and time to the trip.

So in Seattle you have the cost of a ticket

With the Gorge you have the following costs:
Ticket
Food
Gas
Lodging

100 Pacer

musicismylife78 wrote:

9 years actually. They havent played Seattle proper in 9 years. The 2 Key Arena 2000 shows were the last shows. All the other shows were benefits, or at small venues.

9 years since a seattle stadium/arena show

PJ's previous shows at Key Arena were in December 2002, not 2000,...

musicismylife78 wrote:

my understanding is they have had major trouble getting a place to play. Thats why it took 9 years. And now that I think about it Key Arena and the Tacoma Dome are the only places, real places a band of the stature of Pearl jam could play in Seattle. That in itself is bizaare.

that's incorrect - the band wanted nothing to do with the management/ownership from Key Arena, hence not playing there all these years by choice,...

over bends

Wow, had no idea. That's lame. Thought it'd be half hour tops from Seattle. You could go to and from Philly from NY in that time if there's no traffic.

musicismylife78

100 Pacer wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

9 years actually. They havent played Seattle proper in 9 years. The 2 Key Arena 2000 shows were the last shows. All the other shows were benefits, or at small venues.

9 years since a seattle stadium/arena show

PJ's previous shows at Key Arena were in December 2002, not 2000,...

musicismylife78 wrote:

my understanding is they have had major trouble getting a place to play. Thats why it took 9 years. And now that I think about it Key Arena and the Tacoma Dome are the only places, real places a band of the stature of Pearl jam could play in Seattle. That in itself is bizaare.

that's incorrect - the band wanted nothing to do with the management/ownership from Key Arena, hence not playing there all these years by choice,...

yeah thats what I said. If they werent able or didnt want to play Key Arena because of the management where else could they play. Thus exactly what i said. They have had major trouble getting a place to play.

Were the 2002 key arena shows, true shows? Non benefit shows? Shows announced in advance and not word of mouth shows like the Ed solo Seattle show a few years back?

100 Pacer

musicismylife78 wrote:

100 Pacer wrote:

musicismylife78 wrote:

9 years actually. They havent played Seattle proper in 9 years. The 2 Key Arena 2000 shows were the last shows. All the other shows were benefits, or at small venues.

9 years since a seattle stadium/arena show

PJ's previous shows at Key Arena were in December 2002, not 2000,...

musicismylife78 wrote:

my understanding is they have had major trouble getting a place to play. Thats why it took 9 years. And now that I think about it Key Arena and the Tacoma Dome are the only places, real places a band of the stature of Pearl jam could play in Seattle. That in itself is bizaare.

that's incorrect - the band wanted nothing to do with the management/ownership from Key Arena, hence not playing there all these years by choice,...

yeah thats what I said. If they werent able or didnt want to play Key Arena because of the management where else could they play. Thus exactly what i said. They have had major trouble getting a place to play.

Were the 2002 key arena shows, true shows? Non benefit shows? Shows announced in advance and not word of mouth shows like the Ed solo Seattle show a few years back?

the band never had any problems booking Key Arena during the last 6 years, nothing prevented them from doing so. the band simply didn't like the organization in place and, rather than working with them, decided to avoid them altogether. i'd say that differs from a statement that reads the band had "major problems getting a place to play".

yes, the December 2002 Key Arena shows were proper shows, shows announced in advance. the band has typically donated ALL funds raised at Seattle shows since around the mid-90s to local charities, so the "benefit shows" tag is really irrelevant in this case, since tickets for the December 2002 Key Arena shows were sold to the general public (as well as being available to 10C members) under the appearance of a proper show,...

ranger800

The 2002 shows at the Key Arena were not regular ten club shows. They were benefit shows and you could only get the tickets through a random lottery.

Hence, the last full fan club arena show in Seattle was in 2000.

Same goes for Portland.

100 Pacer

ranger800 wrote:

The 2002 shows at the Key Arena were not regular ten club shows. They were benefit shows and you could only get the tickets through a random lottery.

Hence, the last full fan club arena show in Seattle was in 2000.

Same goes for Portland.

10C seniority wasn't used for the 2002 Key Arena shows, a limited number of tickets were made available to 10C members otherwise. the remainder of the tickets went on sale via Ticketmaster,...

mookeywrench

ranger800 wrote:

The 2002 shows at the Key Arena were not regular ten club shows. They were benefit shows and you could only get the tickets through a random lottery.

Hence, the last full fan club arena show in Seattle was in 2000.

Same goes for Portland.

You're getting a little too picky, The Key Arena shows fit plenty of people, were announced well in advance and no one had trouble getting into them.

That to me constitutes a proper show.

I dont care how Ten Club allocated the tickets.

Zod

The 2002 shows were regular shows. Just not regular 10c shows.

The 2nd show didn't even have 10c tickets and the first had about 1000 pairs randomly drawn (I scored row 5, my best at any pj show).

In 2000 only the first show had fan tix as well.

so its cool this time there are for both nights.

I still count the gorge shows at seattle shows. You've got half this bbs complaining that they don't get shows in the same state or a 12 hour drive, and people complain about a 2.5 hour drive. I've never seen a band do a show in seattle then do the gorge.. I really enjoyed shows at the gorge, so I wouldn't go back and trade them for key arena shows anyways.

The seattle shows are the closest to me (other than calgary, but I'd like to see a full setlist actualy pearl jam show).

hopefully i get tickets. I was at key arena in 2000, 2002, gorge in 05/06, may as well keep going to the seattle shows

edit: and memorial in 1998

musicismylife78

If a band refuses to play a venue and then cant find any other venue to play at, isnt that having problems getting a place to play. its not like we are talking podunk town here. This is a major city. A major touring spot and the bands hometown. So yeah, they had trouble getting a place to play.

If Radiohead only decided to play venues that had environmentally sound LCD lighting, which isnt out of the question, wouldnt you say, radiohead had major problems getting a place to play?

musicismylife78

i live in eugene oregon. and portland is 1 to 1 and a half hours away. I dont drive, so I dont really pay attention to the time, when others are driving me. When PJ plays Portland I cant say "Pearl Jam is playing Eugene". Because they arent. They are playing at a venue thats an hour to 1 and a half hours away.

Same goes for Seattle. The Gorge isnt seattle. Its out of the way. It isnt hard to get a taxi to and around Seattle. Its hard to get a taxi to the Gorge. That tells you something.

mookeywrench

musicismylife78 wrote:

If a band refuses to play a venue and then cant find any other venue to play at, isnt that having problems getting a place to play. its not like we are talking podunk town here. This is a major city. A major touring spot and the bands hometown. So yeah, they had trouble getting a place to play.

If Radiohead only decided to play venues that had environmentally sound LCD lighting, which isnt out of the question, wouldnt you say, radiohead had major problems getting a place to play?

no....having a problem with 1 particular venue is completely different from finding a place to play.

They've had no problems being booked at Benaroya, the Crocodile, and the Showbox.

musicismylife78

the last seattle shows were 2000. plain and simple

100 Pacer

musicismylife78 wrote:

If a band refuses to play a venue and then cant find any other venue to play at, isnt that having problems getting a place to play. its not like we are talking podunk town here. This is a major city. A major touring spot and the bands hometown. So yeah, they had trouble getting a place to play.

If Radiohead only decided to play venues that had environmentally sound LCD lighting, which isnt out of the question, wouldnt you say, radiohead had major problems getting a place to play?

refusing to play/choosing to pass up the chance to play Key Arena when the opportunity presents itself and not being able to book Key Arena because of logistical/financial/production faults or troubles are two different scenarios,...

musicismylife78 wrote:

the last seattle shows were 2000. plain and simple

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musicismylife78

If I remember correctly the statement "we have had trouble finding places to play" was uttered by Jeff during an interview on a Seattle radio program. They didnt talk too much about the band, more about sports. It was a conversation about the fact that the Sonic were leaving.

I think the quote I am refering to is pretty much verbatim

mookeywrench

musicismylife78 wrote:

the last seattle shows were 2000. plain and simple

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