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JT252714JT252714 Posts: 8
edited July 2009 in The Porch
Ok, first let me start by saying that I love PJ and they can really do no wrong in my eyes, AND I have been fortunate to catch them in other cities over the past few years. But for God's sake, what in the hell is it going to take to get a Seattle show? I agree that the tweet did NOT sound promising for some West shows, so something tells me Seattle is a no go.

The only thing I can think of is that Key Arena really is a crappy venue, especially from a sound quality perspective. Also, Seattle audiences are kind of lame (no offense, but it is true) and I think the band has even made comments about that...
Oh well, I guess I will just wait and see.
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  • PJStatTrackerPJStatTracker Posts: 2,400
    JT252714 wrote:
    Ok, first let me start by saying that I love PJ and they can really do no wrong in my eyes, AND I have been fortunate to catch them in other cities over the past few years. But for God's sake, what in the hell is it going to take to get a Seattle show? I agree that the tweet did NOT sound promising for some West shows, so something tells me Seattle is a no go.

    The only thing I can think of is that Key Arena really is a crappy venue, especially from a sound quality perspective. Also, Seattle audiences are kind of lame (no offense, but it is true) and I think the band has even made comments about that...
    Oh well, I guess I will just wait and see.


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  • U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    JT252714 wrote:
    Ok, first let me start by saying that I love PJ and they can really do no wrong in my eyes, AND I have been fortunate to catch them in other cities over the past few years. But for God's sake, what in the hell is it going to take to get a Seattle show? I agree that the tweet did NOT sound promising for some West shows, so something tells me Seattle is a no go.

    The only thing I can think of is that Key Arena really is a crappy venue, especially from a sound quality perspective. Also, Seattle audiences are kind of lame (no offense, but it is true) and I think the band has even made comments about that...
    Oh well, I guess I will just wait and see.

    ya know...i often wonder why they don't play in and around Seattle much more..there must be something to the things you mentioned (about the crowds and venues) i mean being from Boston i can't complain...it works out very well..being a PJ fan and living in the Northeast...but you guys don't get love as much as you'd think you would.
  • HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    They will be playing Seattle around sept 22 and 23; guaranteed
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  • WoobynabWoobynab Posts: 50
    I understand your woe. I've lived by Seattle for about 5 years now, and I've only had the opportunity to see Pearl Jam once, when they played down at the Gorge. I will admit it was the best PJ show I've ever seen, but still: 5 years is a long time not to play in your home city.
  • Vedder_Girl77Vedder_Girl77 Posts: 4,335
    I think Seattle is going to get some love this year. :)

    Someone from this message board posted about a month ago that they spoke to Mike and he said they will be playing Seattle the 22/23 of September...around the time the new album drops.
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  • EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    Vedder_Girl77 wrote:
    I think Seattle is going to get some love this year. :)

    Someone from this message board posted about a month ago that they spoke to Mike and he said they will be playing Seattle the 22/23 of September...around the time the new album drops.


    mike talks a lot, over the past 2 years I have heard him say the were going to do a full europe tour in 2008, a full south american tour in 2009 and some other stuff.

    I wouldnt take what mike says with a grain of salt :lol::mrgreen:
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  • ponner1usponner1us Posts: 738
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  • H.ChinaskiH.Chinaski Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,600
    agreed, i think we will get a show this time though!!
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  • BeerBaronBeerBaron Toronto-ish Posts: 4,097
    HermanBloom wrote:
    They will be playing Seattle around sept 22 and 23; guaranteed
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  • Nuzpaper.Nuzpaper. Posts: 112
    I think the TWEET confirms west coast shows " As the sun was setting in the west, we had a visit from a little birdie who seemed like he was in a great hurry" I think that means that WC shows have been worked out and that they will also be adding some Philly and Aussie shows.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    Nuzpaper. wrote:
    I think the TWEET confirms west coast shows " As the sun was setting in the west, we had a visit from a little birdie who seemed like he was in a great hurry" I think that means that WC shows have been worked out and that they will also be adding some Philly and Aussie shows.
    At the same time, it's unusual to have ZERO rumours regarding the west coast. We've got Philly rumours galore, and even a (supposed) copy of an e-mail between promotors alerting them to be aware of upcoming PJ shows in Australia, but nothing at all about the west coast. Kudos to the band if they've successfully figured out how to eliminate leaks for the west coast, but sadly, I feel like given the amount of people involved in making a show happen is great enough that the chances of having no information leaked is slim to none.
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  • FuhrawzFuhrawz Posts: 82
    Eduardo Veduardo. wrote:
    JT252714 wrote:
    Ok, first let me start by saying that I love PJ and they can really do no wrong in my eyes, AND I have been fortunate to catch them in other cities over the past few years. But for God's sake, what in the hell is it going to take to get a Seattle show? I agree that the tweet did NOT sound promising for some West shows, so something tells me Seattle is a no go.

    The only thing I can think of is that Key Arena really is a crappy venue, especially from a sound quality perspective. Also, Seattle audiences are kind of lame (no offense, but it is true) and I think the band has even made comments about that...
    Oh well, I guess I will just wait and see.


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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    edited July 2009
    JT252714 wrote:
    Ok, first let me start by saying that I love PJ and they can really do no wrong in my eyes, AND I have been fortunate to catch them in other cities over the past few years. But for God's sake, what in the hell is it going to take to get a Seattle show? I agree that the tweet did NOT sound promising for some West shows, so something tells me Seattle is a no go.

    The only thing I can think of is that Key Arena really is a crappy venue, especially from a sound quality perspective. Also, Seattle audiences are kind of lame (no offense, but it is true) and I think the band has even made comments about that...
    Oh well, I guess I will just wait and see.
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quite spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!! :evil:
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  • A satellite forever orbitingA satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quit spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!! :evil:

    at least you didn't take it personally. ;)
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    A satellite forever orbiting wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quit spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!! :evil:

    at least you didn't take it personally. ;)
    I found the OP to be quite offensive.
  • JT252714JT252714 Posts: 8
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quit spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!!


    at least you didn't take it personally.

    Seriously. No harm intended. I live in Seattle and have been to all Key Arena shows, as well as the Gorge. I have also been to MSG, Civic Aud in SF, Aloha Stadium, and Wembley Arena, to name a few, so I kind of know what I'm talking about - or at least have a basis for my opinion.
  • A satellite forever orbitingA satellite forever orbiting Posts: 1,888
    aNiMaL wrote:
    I found the OP to be quite offensive.

    ok...that person just questioned the sound of the venue and made a broad generalization about seattle crowds.
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  • PJFAN_seattlePJFAN_seattle Posts: 2,965
    if the rumour turns out to be false its gonna be a huge letdown for everyone, be prepared.
    i really think were gonna get our show
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    PJ_kidd wrote:
    if the rumour turns out to be false its gonna be a huge letdown for everyone, be prepared.
    i really think were gonna get our show
    Kidd, I soooo hope you are right.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    A satellite forever orbiting wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    I found the OP to be quite offensive.

    ok...that person just questioned the sound of the venue and made a broad generalization about seattle crowds.
    Yeah, both points he made are completely unfounded and untrue. There is no factual evidence at all to back up his claims. In fact, I have witnessed evidence that would claim the exact opposite of his claims. That we as Seattle crowds goes are some of the loudest crowds that will drive 200 miles across our state without bitching, and come out in full force. I have seen PJ and many other bands all over Seattle and the crowds have never been an issue as far as lack of energy or lack of getting into the show.

    And the Key Arena argument is also false as i have already stated.

    Give me a link or a quote to anyone in the band stating that Seattle crowds are lame. It just doesn't exist.
  • Running In The DarkRunning In The Dark Denver Posts: 692
    JT252714 wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quit spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!!


    at least you didn't take it personally.

    Seriously. No harm intended. I live in Seattle and have been to all Key Arena shows, as well as the Gorge. I have also been to MSG, Civic Aud in SF, Aloha Stadium, and Wembley Arena, to name a few, so I kind of know what I'm talking about - or at least have a basis for my opinion.

    No offense Animal but I have to agree with the OP's statement about the crowds. Concidering this is a hometown band I would think the crowds whould be MUCH better. I've been lucky enough to see 80+ shows including shows in Seattle proper in '96, '98x2, '00x2, '01(Groundwork not offical PJ Show), 02x2. And aside from the 2nd night in '00 I thought all the crowds were sub-par. Now to be fair I've found that the crowds at all 3 shows at the Gorge were well above average. It would not surprise me at all if this has played a roll into them not playing there often over the past few years.
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  • zootownzootown Posts: 666
    benjs wrote:
    Nuzpaper. wrote:
    I think the TWEET confirms west coast shows " As the sun was setting in the west, we had a visit from a little birdie who seemed like he was in a great hurry" I think that means that WC shows have been worked out and that they will also be adding some Philly and Aussie shows.
    At the same time, it's unusual to have ZERO rumours regarding the west coast. We've got Philly rumours galore, and even a (supposed) copy of an e-mail between promotors alerting them to be aware of upcoming PJ shows in Australia, but nothing at all about the west coast. Kudos to the band if they've successfully figured out how to eliminate leaks for the west coast, but sadly, I feel like given the amount of people involved in making a show happen is great enough that the chances of having no information leaked is slim to none.


    Im surprised at how much pessimism there is about the West getting some love- although I have no proof, its seems like a no-brainer that the West will get some more shows because of the "current info" thread started by Tim that specifically mentions the "western US". Also, they have not really played any significant West gigs since 06. Im thinking: open in Missoula (yeah!) as they have in the past, followed by the Gorge, some Canadian shows and Seattle love- then maybe a few more West of the Mississippi. Oh yeah, Jeff said on a local radio station in March that they are playing "the west, the south and a few shows in Europe".....
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    zootown wrote:
    benjs wrote:
    Nuzpaper. wrote:
    I think the TWEET confirms west coast shows " As the sun was setting in the west, we had a visit from a little birdie who seemed like he was in a great hurry" I think that means that WC shows have been worked out and that they will also be adding some Philly and Aussie shows.
    At the same time, it's unusual to have ZERO rumours regarding the west coast. We've got Philly rumours galore, and even a (supposed) copy of an e-mail between promotors alerting them to be aware of upcoming PJ shows in Australia, but nothing at all about the west coast. Kudos to the band if they've successfully figured out how to eliminate leaks for the west coast, but sadly, I feel like given the amount of people involved in making a show happen is great enough that the chances of having no information leaked is slim to none.


    Im surprised at how much pessimism there is about the West getting some love- although I have no proof, its seems like a no-brainer that the West will get some more shows because of the "current info" thread started by Tim that specifically mentions the "western US". Also, they have not really played any significant West gigs since 06. Im thinking: open in Missoula (yeah!) as they have in the past, followed by the Gorge, some Canadian shows and Seattle love- then maybe a few more West of the Mississippi. Oh yeah, Jeff said on a local radio station in March that they are playing "the west, the south and a few shows in Europe".....

    There is no Gorge show happening.
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 19,165
    You can do what I did three years ago and leave Seattle and move near Chicago. I thought my days of seeing PJ were going to far and few but it has somehow worked out very well for me :mrgreen:

    They really do need to play the Key again sometime soon. I saw them in 01 (groundworks) and thought it was amazing. Also, consecutive nights at the Paramount would be awesome.
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  • SolarWorldSolarWorld Posts: 1,902
    Running In The Dark wrote:
    JT252714 wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    Thems are fightin' words.

    Obviously, you are speculating and have absolutely no idea as to what you are talking about.

    Key Arena is on par with every other basketball/hockey arena in the country for sound. And it is probably ahead of the curve with seating configuration. Pearl Jam, let alone countless of many other big named bands have had quit spectacular shows there in the past. Key Arena management is another story from what I hear, and Jeff Ament has hinted at that being the biggest reason they haven't played there since 2002.

    And the crowds argument is just rude and completely unfounded. Considering we, the Puget Sound region fans, make upwards of 90% of The Gorge crowds, I would say our crowd energy is tip top!! We could rival any NE crowd any day of the week and twice on Sunday's!!!


    at least you didn't take it personally.

    Seriously. No harm intended. I live in Seattle and have been to all Key Arena shows, as well as the Gorge. I have also been to MSG, Civic Aud in SF, Aloha Stadium, and Wembley Arena, to name a few, so I kind of know what I'm talking about - or at least have a basis for my opinion.

    No offense Animal but I have to agree with the OP's statement about the crowds. Concidering this is a hometown band I would think the crowds whould be MUCH better. I've been lucky enough to see 80+ shows including shows in Seattle proper in '96, '98x2, '00x2, '01(Groundwork not offical PJ Show), 02x2. And aside from the 2nd night in '00 I thought all the crowds were sub-par. Now to be fair I've found that the crowds at all 3 shows at the Gorge were well above average. It would not surprise me at all if this has played a roll into them not playing there often over the past few years.

    Saw the 98 shows and 02 shows in Seattle, they are on the bottom of my list as far as crowds go and I have seen close to 100 concerts in my life. Gorge crowds ARE NOT SEATTLE CROWDS!!!! For the last time people, the Gorge is NOT Seattle. With that said no one knows why they dont play Seattle except for the band.
  • zootownzootown Posts: 666
    There is no Gorge show happening.[/quote]


    Really. Are you privy to insider info?
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Saw the 98 shows and 02 shows in Seattle, they are on the bottom of my list as far as crowds go and I have seen close to 100 concerts in my life. Gorge crowds ARE NOT SEATTLE CROWDS!!!! For the last time people, the Gorge is NOT Seattle. With that said no one knows why they dont play Seattle except for the band.
    I never said The Gorge was Seattle. But the facts are, the Puget Sound residents make upwards of 90% of the people who attend ALL Gorge shows. So, yeah, the crowds are one and the same.
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,223
    aNiMaL wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Saw the 98 shows and 02 shows in Seattle, they are on the bottom of my list as far as crowds go and I have seen close to 100 concerts in my life. Gorge crowds ARE NOT SEATTLE CROWDS!!!! For the last time people, the Gorge is NOT Seattle. With that said no one knows why they dont play Seattle except for the band.
    I never said The Gorge was Seattle. But the facts are, the Puget Sound residents make upwards of 90% of the people who attend ALL Gorge shows. So, yeah, the crowds are one and the same.
    With a band that attracts fans who travel huge distances for shows - especially high-profile shows such as MSG and the Gorge - you really believe that?
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  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    benjs wrote:
    aNiMaL wrote:
    SolarWorld wrote:
    Saw the 98 shows and 02 shows in Seattle, they are on the bottom of my list as far as crowds go and I have seen close to 100 concerts in my life. Gorge crowds ARE NOT SEATTLE CROWDS!!!! For the last time people, the Gorge is NOT Seattle. With that said no one knows why they dont play Seattle except for the band.
    I never said The Gorge was Seattle. But the facts are, the Puget Sound residents make upwards of 90% of the people who attend ALL Gorge shows. So, yeah, the crowds are one and the same.
    With a band that attracts fans who travel huge distances for shows - especially high-profile shows such as MSG and the Gorge - you really believe that?
    Yeah, i think you are getting into apples and oranges. Take PJ out of the equation. I don't think any more people travel here to see PJ at the Gorge than they would or have to see PJ in Seattle. So yeah, I still believe that.
  • evenflowmanevenflowman Posts: 1,347
    I sure hope we do.
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