If it's a bad topic to be discussing, either smiting the band or what have you, the mod's will just lock it down and throw away the key.
If you want to complain, hit another PJ board up, you know? That's just my opinion.
+1
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
and by the way,,if someone wants to complain,he can do wherever he wants,,the important is what u say,and people will read it,,not where..or which forum..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
But when you have a limited amount of vacation time and a limited amount of funds to spend on a vacation that you really want (a PJ show or two) you don't want to blow it all by putting in for it at work and paying non-refunable expenses for a non-PJ vacation and they find out their playing somewhere you now can't afford to go to, or right near your home while you're on vacation, or near the city where you're vacationing but the wrong week, etc. It's very frustrating when time and money are involved.
valid point
but they will announce the tour when they are ready
if its that important to you just wait or go to a festival or one of the other shows
ever think that perhaps the band doesnt want people traveling or planning vacations around their shows?
Things that truly have no impact on our lives (ie. posters, t-shirts, 36 minute CDs) aren't worth posting complaints about. However I think people do have a right to vent in light of the way the current "tour" is being
I think you mean what is important to you. The shows will come, they always do. But where is the announcement about the record??
I know they will announce it at some point, but the waiting (and tour dates coming out in dribs and drabs) is what is frustrating. Unfortunately a festival on the other side of the country or smack dab in the middle (ACL south of us or Virgin Fest north) are out of the question for us right now, they would take up too much time and $$. If they don't play in MA or Philly (which we may or may not be able to go to) we won't be seeing them this year. I'd just like to know.
They may or may not care whether or not people travel to see their shows, I would think they would want them to which I'm sure is how they sell out many shows. Not everyone at a NYC show is from NYC However I'm sure there are a lot of people on here that do plan vacations around the shows and unfortunately most of us have to work and many have children so it's not something we can do with only a weeks notice.
And, you are correct...I was speaking about what's important to me. The two PJ things I care about most are shows and new music, the new music is taken care of seeing I know when that's coming out, the show part is still up in the air seeing an announcement doesn't appear to be imminent.
I'm not mad in the sense that others on here become irate at the most minute things, just frustrated and a little disappointed after week after week of 1-2 show announcements none of which I can attend. :(
No biggie, I know shows are coming...I just have to be more patient
2006: Boston I, Camden II
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
ok..fine..why don't we just make 2 areas...one for kiss asses and one for non-kiss asses..problem solved!
How would "kiss assess" and "non-kiss assess" resolve an issue with complaining/not complaining or rude/polite? I'm not following the logic. Clarification for the old and decrepit would be appreciated
that's easy..the kiss-asses are the ones who even think we need a seperate forum for bitching...the non-kiss asses are the ones who know that no matter how many forums you create you will never stop the bitching around here...so we just "go wit da flow"..ya know!
Its not bout people agreeing with you its bout people complaining bout silly shit like posters or a cd that hasn't come out yet or why we haven't gotten a tweet. Its silly shit like that, that is pissing people off. This board has gone to fucking shit in the past months. All you see is people complaining bout things and not even talking bout the band.
It was like that on the old board too. The fact is, you can't stop people from what they do best: complain. I don't care for it either. But spending time complaining about the complaining is completely redundant. If you don't like it, simply don't read it.
Not to speak for the original poster, but he isn't "complaining about the complaining." He's offering a solution. He's saying create another sub-board -- like Moving Train or AET or Given to Fly -- for people who want to wallow in a bitchfest.
You can go over there and bitch about tickets, and tour, and the length of the album, and how much "Got Some" sucks and how the band has sold out by signing on with Target. Go nuts.
That would free up the main board for more productive topics.
I happen to think it's a decent idea.
This is exactly what I meant. I would visit the complaining forum when I had a complaint or felt like something was wrong. I've just started to feel to much negativity surrounding what is the single most postive artistic influence I've come in touch with, pj.
I'm as much as fault as anything because I engage in the negativity by reading some of these idiotic comments, such as the 36 mins. I remember synergy being a different atmosphere. I guess it was a different time and place.
I am making a pledge to myself not to partake in complaining about the complaining. This idea was a solution that worked on a different board and I thought it might apply here.
Hey Crazy Breed, you're quite the person. You going to the chicago shows? Would love to meet ya and "git wit da flow".
Yes, let's please pull the wool over our eyes and avoid having to read any criticism at all. It's the best way, really.
I don't get this attitude. Pearl Jam is a musical group not some hegemony. There are plenty of things to criticize about the music industry that pearl jam has to play with, or the how the fan club is run. I just think a forum to discuss their music, and music only, free of complaints would be beneficial.
Pull the wool over our eyes? I don't know what you mean. Where am I?
No biggie, I know shows are coming...I just have to be more patient
EXACTLY. This band always delivers in the end. And you are more likely to get delivery in the Northeast than anywhere else.
Hang in there and be excited. New PJ on the horizon. You know northeast dates wont be far behind.
They are just taking their sweet time, as we have seen more and more of recently.
Oh and I will warn in advance, you will most likely hear about any tour dates from someone or someplace other than the 10C, so dont be shocked by that.
We all know that Eddie doesn't like to be pushed or told what to do. Kelly Curtis has mentioned this before when speaking of the past and how he knew that if he had an idea he wanted PJ to pursue, there was a balance and if he pushed too hard - Eddie would go in reverse. Maybe the fans on here should keep that in mind. :roll: (I'm not saying this based on the previous post about wishing and being patient for announcements.. just a general statement)
I thought you just had to be unemployed in Seattle and not be a fan of the band to be in their corporate bullshit videos. snifle, snifle. "Mom, the meatloaf!".
This is a little too late on the bands part. They should of just flown out club members to be in the videos. I mean, I pay $20 a year for something.
So, is this NOT a complaint? I'm confused :? :roll: :?
2006: Boston I, Camden II
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
I know they will announce it at some point, but the waiting (and tour dates coming out in dribs and drabs) is what is frustrating. Unfortunately a festival on the other side of the country or smack dab in the middle (ACL south of us or Virgin Fest north) are out of the question for us right now, they would take up too much time and $$. If they don't play in MA or Philly (which we may or may not be able to go to) we won't be seeing them this year. I'd just like to know.
They may or may not care whether or not people travel to see their shows, I would think they would want them to which I'm sure is how they sell out many shows. Not everyone at a NYC show is from NYC
And, you are correct...I was speaking about what's important to me. The two PJ things I care about most are shows and new music, the new music is taken care of seeing I know when that's coming out, the show part is still up in the air seeing an announcement doesn't appear to be imminent.
I'm not mad in the sense that others on here become irate at the most minute things, just frustrated and a little disappointed after week after week of 1-2 show announcements none of which I can attend. :(
No biggie, I know shows are coming...I just have to be more patient
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II
that's easy..the kiss-asses are the ones who even think we need a seperate forum for bitching...the non-kiss asses are the ones who know that no matter how many forums you create you will never stop the bitching around here...so we just "go wit da flow"..ya know!
This is exactly what I meant. I would visit the complaining forum when I had a complaint or felt like something was wrong. I've just started to feel to much negativity surrounding what is the single most postive artistic influence I've come in touch with, pj.
I'm as much as fault as anything because I engage in the negativity by reading some of these idiotic comments, such as the 36 mins. I remember synergy being a different atmosphere. I guess it was a different time and place.
I am making a pledge to myself not to partake in complaining about the complaining. This idea was a solution that worked on a different board and I thought it might apply here.
Hey Crazy Breed, you're quite the person. You going to the chicago shows? Would love to meet ya and "git wit da flow".
"Vinyl or not, you will need to pay someone to take RA of your hands" - Smile05
424, xxx
I don't get this attitude. Pearl Jam is a musical group not some hegemony. There are plenty of things to criticize about the music industry that pearl jam has to play with, or the how the fan club is run. I just think a forum to discuss their music, and music only, free of complaints would be beneficial.
Pull the wool over our eyes? I don't know what you mean. Where am I?
EXACTLY. This band always delivers in the end. And you are more likely to get delivery in the Northeast than anywhere else.
Hang in there and be excited. New PJ on the horizon. You know northeast dates wont be far behind.
They are just taking their sweet time, as we have seen more and more of recently.
Oh and I will warn in advance, you will most likely hear about any tour dates from someone or someplace other than the 10C, so dont be shocked by that.
So, is this NOT a complaint? I'm confused :? :roll: :?
2007: Chicago
2008: Hartford, Mansfield I & II, EV Boston
2009: Philly III & IV
2010: Boston
2011: PJ20
2012: Philly
2013: Worcester I & II, Brooklyn I & II