so... about MJ

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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Lizard wrote:
    Bottom line, no one here can say conclusively one way or the other re the molestation yet everyone is acting like they KNOW.



    exactly.
    Because there are astronomical ammounts of money involved, there will always be speculation .
    Granted, it was never a good idea to have any sleepovers with little kids at all whatsoever, but its no affect on the mans performance skills since he was a little boy . And, we havenmt even considered the f'd up childhood ( or complete lack thereof ) they all must have went through .
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,637
    Lizard wrote:
    Bottom line, no one here can say conclusively one way or the other re the molestation yet everyone is acting like they KNOW.

    please answer my question then - if a neighbor of yours was accused of the same things, admitted sleeping in a bed with young boys and paid his accusers off would you have the same sympathy? no freaking chance you would - to excuse his behavior because he is a star and now because he died is asinine. it is that type of attitude that allows stars to feel like they can do whatever the heck they want. not to mention proven guilty doesn't mean you didn't do it - in just means the case was proven by a prosecutor - see OJ for a reference.
  • purple_chick79purple_chick79 Posts: 570
    If my neighbor was wrongly accused, my opinion would be the same. If there was an audio tape of a kids parent extorting money out of my neighbor, my opinion would be the same. It's the attitude that when a kid says "he/she touched me" that they are always telling the truth. It could NEVER be parents telling them to make shit up so they can get rich quick.
    pjhawks wrote:
    He didn't molest those kids. There was a tape recording of 1 of the parents on the news yesterday talking about how if he gets his way he's all set. Those kids lied for the parents to extort money out of him, and it worked. They took advantage of his personality, odd as it was. They took advantage of the fact that he liked hanging with young boys because of his own fucked up childhood.

    No amount of money would be enough if my kid was molested like these kids say they were. It was always about the money. I'd want the fucker who touched my kids hanged. The fact that they took his money and in turn lost everything is sad and those people should be ashamed of themselves.

    May MJ RIP

    Would you have the same sympathies for a neighbor who was accused of the same acts and paid his way out of trouble? Would you sympathize with that neighbor thinking the world was taking advantage of him or do you feel this way because Michael was a great entertainer? frankly it is your type of attitude why we can't convict celebrieties of crimes in this country. He was a great entertainer and sorry to see him die, but hard to argue against him being a pedophile.
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    pjhawks wrote:
    Lizard wrote:
    Bottom line, no one here can say conclusively one way or the other re the molestation yet everyone is acting like they KNOW.

    please answer my question then - if a neighbor of yours was accused of the same things, admitted sleeping in a bed with young boys and paid his accusers off would you have the same sympathy? no freaking chance you would - to excuse his behavior because he is a star and now because he died is asinine. it is that type of attitude that allows stars to feel like they can do whatever the heck they want. not to mention proven guilty doesn't mean you didn't do it - in just means the case was proven by a prosecutor - see OJ for a reference.

    See how I did not say anything about sympathy ? I was just making a statement re his guilt or innocence. No one REALLY Knows. I actually lean towards guilt but I could be 100% wrong.
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  • mrveddersonmrvedderson Posts: 784
    arq wrote:
    I was thinking about this earlier today, what if there was conclusive evidende that MJ molested those kid, should we praise Him if that was the case? His music and his private life aren't two diffent things? If tomorrow some scientific discover the cure to a deadly disease but at the same time is revealed that he killed 40 kids in the process, are we going to use the cure he discovered and praise him for saving a lot of life for generations to come forgeting the deads of the kids?

    i know MJ made some nice music but how he is going to be remembered in 30 years? Like the weirdo who could've molested some kid in the past or as the king of pop?

    he will be the king of pop, there were lots of well known figures who did horrible and strange things in the past like da vinci(molested boys), dali(ate his shit), and many others
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    OK, honest question. Those of you here with children. Even if you feel certain, in your bones, that Michael was innocent:

    Would YOU have let your children sleep over alone at Mike's house when he was alive?

    I didn't think so.
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,430
    Parents that would let their children stay with him are just as fucked up as he was, imo

    The parents were asking for somethin to happen and MJ was asking for allegations to be made about him.

    Celebrity or not, I'd have reservations about lettin my child stay with someone as odd as Jackson.

    He's really better off dead in a way. I was shocked to find out yesterday that he has "fans" that actually live outside of his home in vans.
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