Iran imploding

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  • Blind3
    Blind3 Posts: 1,149
    Our backing the overthrow of Mohamed Mossadeq in 1953 (OIL !) and subsequent support of the Reza Pahlavi family doesn't exactly help US standing in a region where memories are 3000 years old and more. The Libertarian in me, as in I'm a card carrying member of said party, says avoid foreign entanglements ... as we also should've done in Afghanistan and Iraq.
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  • JaneNY
    JaneNY Posts: 4,438
    Penguin1203 wrote:
    so im really only checking into the news about this now, and i have no clue whats going on, other than the article posted earlier.

    so let me get this straight. the leader of Iran was a tyrant, and now the people got really pissed off, and they're letting him know it?

    and through this, they hope to establish a real form of government, not some George Orwell - 1984 regime?

    What happened was an unfair election, in which it looks like votes weren't even counted, before Ahmedinajad was declared the winner. People are protesting this, want a fair proper election, and riot police and the current government is attempting to quell protests with violence and murder, and terror, but people are staying strong.
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  • Pepe Silvia
    Pepe Silvia Posts: 3,758
    Penguin1203 wrote:
    so im really only checking into the news about this now, and i have no clue whats going on, other than the article posted earlier.

    so let me get this straight. the leader of Iran was a tyrant, and now the people got really pissed off, and they're letting him know it?

    and through this, they hope to establish a real form of government, not some George Orwell - 1984 regime?


    no, the president of Iran is pretty much just a spokesperson, they don't have much real power
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  • Penguin1203
    Penguin1203 Posts: 24
    JaneNY wrote:
    Penguin1203 wrote:
    so im really only checking into the news about this now, and i have no clue whats going on, other than the article posted earlier.

    so let me get this straight. the leader of Iran was a tyrant, and now the people got really pissed off, and they're letting him know it?

    and through this, they hope to establish a real form of government, not some George Orwell - 1984 regime?

    What happened was an unfair election, in which it looks like votes weren't even counted, before Ahmedinajad was declared the winner. People are protesting this, want a fair proper election, and riot police and the current government is attempting to quell protests with violence and murder, and terror, but people are staying strong.
    ahh i see. so a more violent, radical approach to the bush elections. (i think someone mentioned that earlier aswell)
  • NoK
    NoK Posts: 824
    Penguin1203 wrote:
    JaneNY wrote:
    Penguin1203 wrote:
    so im really only checking into the news about this now, and i have no clue whats going on, other than the article posted earlier.

    so let me get this straight. the leader of Iran was a tyrant, and now the people got really pissed off, and they're letting him know it?

    and through this, they hope to establish a real form of government, not some George Orwell - 1984 regime?

    What happened was an unfair election, in which it looks like votes weren't even counted, before Ahmedinajad was declared the winner. People are protesting this, want a fair proper election, and riot police and the current government is attempting to quell protests with violence and murder, and terror, but people are staying strong.
    ahh i see. so a more violent, radical approach to the bush elections. (i think someone mentioned that earlier aswell)

    Actually there is no proof to what she said and the letter that was circulated which the protesters used as proof turned out to be fake. In fact the most conclusive poll that was conducted before the elections gave Ahmadinejad a 2-1 advantage. Even the most unbiased reporting (who support the protesters, i.e. Robert Fisk) agree that Ahmadinejad is the likely winner they just beefed up his win margin to make it more conclusive. This is why the protesters have switched tack in their protests and start calling for regime change.
  • fuck
    fuck Posts: 4,069
    I love how the US pretends to preach democracy only when it suits them. They preach it in Iran while refusing to acknowledge the Palestinians' democratically elected government.
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,473
    i agree with commy on this one. i guarantee that the cia is involved in some way on this one. either shaping the news that we see, or payinf or organizing protesters in an attempt to install a more us friendsly leader. they have been rigging elections and meddling in other countries affairs for 50 years now. i never thought i would be cynical enough to believe this way, but after 8 yrs of bushco i would have a hard time believing any other way. i feel bad for the citizens of iran that are protesting and who are most likely going to be dealt with in a very serious manner, but we can not get ourselves involved in a third country in that region. we can't even finish the wars we are involved with currently.
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  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    _outlaw wrote:
    I love how the US pretends to preach democracy only when it suits them. They preach it in Iran while refusing to acknowledge the Palestinians' democratically elected government.

    Exactly. The hypocrisy is fucking breathtaking.

    Also, try telling Latin Americans how concerned you are about democracy and about removing brutal regimes and they will laugh in your faces.

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