When Ed plays Arc

polaris_x

i think when he is done looping and he stares into the crowd - it's ok to applaud ... like with most songs - the meaning should always be relative to one's life ... hearing it for the first time last year at massey hall was a top 5 highlight for me for all pj related shows ... it is a very moving experience for me ...

Smarter_Than_U

jimed14 wrote:

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

I don't really understand the big deal behind Arc. I think I am the only one

I kind of agree. I think it's cool, but not a religous experience, personally speaking of course. Glad others like it so much though.

perhaps you don't know the song's meaning? As someone who has been to hundreds of concerts and many festivals, it's interesting to take that time to think about what that must of been like, specifically what the band must think when they hear about tragedies like that. It's some pain that you can feel as he does the song.

I saw one of the original 9 performances on the 2003 tour, but, there were so many folks that didn't know what the song meant that there was a lot of chatter during it ... people had no idea what he was doing.

When I saw him do it in Berkeley .. Ed seemed visably moved, this is why I find it, well ... moving.

I know what it's about and I do think the Riot Act version is an excellent tribute to the nine people who died at Roskilde. However, I have not been particularly moved by the performances of it I have seen live. Which makes me wonder if some people are moved by it because they feel like they are supposed to be moved by it. That's probably just the cynic in me talking though. Just my $.02 --I realize my opinion is probably not shared by the majority.

justam

I love the way his voice sounds layered on top of itself like that.

jimed14

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

perhaps you don't know the song's meaning? As someone who has been to hundreds of concerts and many festivals, it's interesting to take that time to think about what that must of been like, specifically what the band must think when they hear about tragedies like that. It's some pain that you can feel as he does the song.

I saw one of the original 9 performances on the 2003 tour, but, there were so many folks that didn't know what the song meant that there was a lot of chatter during it ... people had no idea what he was doing.

When I saw him do it in Berkeley .. Ed seemed visably moved, this is why I find it, well ... moving.

I know what it's about and I do think the Riot Act version is an excellent tribute to the nine people who died at Roskilde. However, I have not been particularly moved by the performances of it I have seen live. Which makes me wonder if some people are moved by it because they feel like they are supposed to be moved by it. That's probably just the cynic in me talking though. Just my $.02 --I realize my opinion is probably not shared by the majority.

your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion, there's no right or wrong ... it doesn't move you, and there is nothing worng with that .... like I said, when I saw it in '03 with 15-18k people ... it didn't move me at all either ... in this intimate setting ... and how he looked as he was doing it (I was in the 9th or 10th row), touching his heart at the end ... he just looked visably moved, and for me, it's tough not to be moved when you see someone else perform like that.

we all go into and come away from these performances with different perspecitves ... it's all personal. But back to the OPs point ... those that don't "feel" it should pipe down and let others enjoy the moment.

Sleep.With.Innocence

Arc's the kind of thing that doesn't really hit you untill after you hear it.

You need to really step back and engulf the whole thing. Vocally it's highly impressive.

norm

"primal." - my friend night 1 in los angeles

acutejam

It really shocked the pysche for me in Santa Cruz, first time I'd heard it live. Knew what it was about, actually deleted the studio version off the iPod as it can be a hard thing to listen to, to appreciate "just anywhere." There's a frame of mind needed, perhaps, to access it....

But seeing him do it live the first (heck, second, third, fourth) time was gut-wrenching. It must be exceedingly easy to screw up as has happened. Had read he's happier now with the loop tech Liam is using, but huh, he's done it pre-Liam obviously. I play around with guitar loops and damn if I can keep anything sane for more than a few passes -- so I really appreciate the talent it takes (major props to Liam btw).

And then, just the vocals themselves -- I'm convinced he's using the pitch shift to drop one pass down into the bone-thumping registers but wouldn't be surprise if it's natural. And then, no two ending wails are ever really the same -- so much discussion if it was even arc and not wolf during April Fools. Both? "What did we just hear?"

As the loop plays, yeah, it's neat to hear it fade (and sometimes he fades faster and not so much, seems like it was going FOREVER in Santa Cruz, not so much in Berkeley or Philly) -- but there's really no choice but to go nuts as he looks up into the crowd, is there?