When Ed plays Arc

ReachingForThinAir

try just listening for a change.
let it flow.
trust him.
sip a beer and shut up.
follow.
it means a lot.

you might learn something.

AtlantaJammer

ReachingForThinAir wrote:

try just listening for a change.
let it flow.
trust him.
sip a beer and shut up.
follow.
it means a lot.

you might learn something.

I personally cant wait to hear Arc...

Marieow

Seriously. I heard him attempt "Arc" in San Diego back in 2003, however people just couldn't deal with being quiet. Then I saw him perform it in Berkeley on his solo tour last year and it was very climatic. MMMMmmmm....

Ok

ReachingForThinAir wrote:

try just listening for a change.
let it flow.
trust him.
sip a beer and shut up.
follow.
it means a lot.

you might learn something.

+100

Vedder_Girl77

People should shut up during Arc! :twisted: And anyone who makes noise should be tossed from the show.

MayDay10

serious question:

are you supposed to cheer when he is done with his input and everything is on loop?

It seems like such a natural moment for applause/cheering, and there is always applause/cheering there... but are people supposed to make noise at this point?

Cynthia77

MayDay10 wrote:

serious question:

are you supposed to cheer when he is done with his input and everything is on loop?

It seems like such a natural moment for applause/cheering, and there is always applause/cheering there... but are people supposed to make noise at this point?

I believe silence through and after ARC is the most wonderful gift we can give Ed. I've been to 6 solo shows to date... through all the gems pulled out that we go nuts over, ARC reverberates and seems never to leave my mind. This looping, ecclectic mix of Eddie's voice is, to me, the highest point --
Being loud and rowdy during ARC will only silence him. Show respect and listen.
It may come as a surprise how the magic of Ed's vocals will fill you...

megatron

i've seen it twice and i sing along at the top of my lungs..

but seriously folks we're lucky he plays this. i've seen song convert a bunch of old fogies at the david lynch show..they were all turnin around with a look of holy shit was that?

can't wait to see it again..kinda sounds like the wolf is thrown it and the end too...i think

CJMST3K

Saw it in DC last tour. Was great.

Saw him start then abort it in Baltimore - thanks to the assholes who don't understand that all the lights being out and the entire hall being completely quiet doesn't mean "my time to scream". It was only a couple of people at the beginning of that song, but that probably is what distracted him.

Hope the rest of you hear it.

pjsteelerfan

Arc in Baltimore last night started off the best I had seen it in my 6 solo shows, then about half way though some people started to yell when he was singing. Still was a great version, but I think its best to hold off until he fnishes the loops. pretty easy to tell when he is done.

blackmosquito23

Vedder_Girl77 wrote:

People should shut up during Arc! :twisted: And anyone who makes noise should be tossed from the show.

I hear that! I really hope Nashville doesn't let me down and can show some respect :!:

ReachingForThinAir

MayDay10 wrote:

serious question:

are you supposed to cheer when he is done with his input and everything is on loop?

It seems like such a natural moment for applause/cheering, and there is always applause/cheering there... but are people supposed to make noise at this point?

it is my opinion that when he finishes looping, the real song starts. Silence is golden at that point: to float in his creativity. And if there were no yells etc, during the looping it should be gorgeous. The audience noise can be picked up on the loops, i would think.

it changes every night.

karmakvisser

It pissed me off that he felt compelled to stop ARC at the first night in Baltimore. I witnessed it at the 2nd night at the Warner last year and was in awe.

Sunday night, when he started laying down the initial tracks I got excited but then about 45 seconds into it, he stopped. Bummer. Thanks in part to some loser in the balcony screaming.

megatron

i hope some idiots yell towards the end of arc in atlanta.

then ed screams so hard on the last part our heads explode and we are forgiven

dustinpardue

I don't really understand the big deal behind Arc. I think I am the only one

Smarter_Than_U

dustinpardue wrote:

I don't really understand the big deal behind Arc. I think I am the only one

I kind of agree. I think it's cool, but not a religous experience, personally speaking of course. Glad others like it so much though.

jimed14

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

I don't really understand the big deal behind Arc. I think I am the only one

I kind of agree. I think it's cool, but not a religous experience, personally speaking of course. Glad others like it so much though.

perhaps you don't know the song's meaning? As someone who has been to hundreds of concerts and many festivals, it's interesting to take that time to think about what that must of been like, specifically what the band must think when they hear about tragedies like that. It's some pain that you can feel as he does the song.

I saw one of the original 9 performances on the 2003 tour, but, there were so many folks that didn't know what the song meant that there was a lot of chatter during it ... people had no idea what he was doing.

When I saw him do it in Berkeley .. Ed seemed visably moved, this is why I find it, well ... moving.

ReachingForThinAir

it is also a metaphor for any pain the listener has experienced in his/her life and the 'arc' one travels in the grief process.

plus the first 3 notes often sound like the Star Spangled Banner.... i mean Devo.

Black-12

Vedder_Girl77 wrote:

People should shut up during Arc! :twisted: And anyone who makes noise should be tossed from the show.

I agree!

Daron Oshay

Arc deserves some space - it'spure emotion

cbh1011

absolutely beautiful tonight.

and the idiots in the crowd... acting like douches all night long yelling out requests despite the clear request from Ed to shut the fuck up... actually didn't talk to much during ARC.

polaris_x

i think when he is done looping and he stares into the crowd - it's ok to applaud ... like with most songs - the meaning should always be relative to one's life ... hearing it for the first time last year at massey hall was a top 5 highlight for me for all pj related shows ... it is a very moving experience for me ...

Smarter_Than_U

jimed14 wrote:

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

dustinpardue wrote:

I don't really understand the big deal behind Arc. I think I am the only one

I kind of agree. I think it's cool, but not a religous experience, personally speaking of course. Glad others like it so much though.

perhaps you don't know the song's meaning? As someone who has been to hundreds of concerts and many festivals, it's interesting to take that time to think about what that must of been like, specifically what the band must think when they hear about tragedies like that. It's some pain that you can feel as he does the song.

I saw one of the original 9 performances on the 2003 tour, but, there were so many folks that didn't know what the song meant that there was a lot of chatter during it ... people had no idea what he was doing.

When I saw him do it in Berkeley .. Ed seemed visably moved, this is why I find it, well ... moving.

I know what it's about and I do think the Riot Act version is an excellent tribute to the nine people who died at Roskilde. However, I have not been particularly moved by the performances of it I have seen live. Which makes me wonder if some people are moved by it because they feel like they are supposed to be moved by it. That's probably just the cynic in me talking though. Just my $.02 --I realize my opinion is probably not shared by the majority.

justam

I love the way his voice sounds layered on top of itself like that.

jimed14

Smarter_Than_U wrote:

jimed14 wrote:

perhaps you don't know the song's meaning? As someone who has been to hundreds of concerts and many festivals, it's interesting to take that time to think about what that must of been like, specifically what the band must think when they hear about tragedies like that. It's some pain that you can feel as he does the song.

I saw one of the original 9 performances on the 2003 tour, but, there were so many folks that didn't know what the song meant that there was a lot of chatter during it ... people had no idea what he was doing.

When I saw him do it in Berkeley .. Ed seemed visably moved, this is why I find it, well ... moving.

I know what it's about and I do think the Riot Act version is an excellent tribute to the nine people who died at Roskilde. However, I have not been particularly moved by the performances of it I have seen live. Which makes me wonder if some people are moved by it because they feel like they are supposed to be moved by it. That's probably just the cynic in me talking though. Just my $.02 --I realize my opinion is probably not shared by the majority.

your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion, there's no right or wrong ... it doesn't move you, and there is nothing worng with that .... like I said, when I saw it in '03 with 15-18k people ... it didn't move me at all either ... in this intimate setting ... and how he looked as he was doing it (I was in the 9th or 10th row), touching his heart at the end ... he just looked visably moved, and for me, it's tough not to be moved when you see someone else perform like that.

we all go into and come away from these performances with different perspecitves ... it's all personal. But back to the OPs point ... those that don't "feel" it should pipe down and let others enjoy the moment.

Sleep.With.Innocence

Arc's the kind of thing that doesn't really hit you untill after you hear it.

You need to really step back and engulf the whole thing. Vocally it's highly impressive.

norm

"primal." - my friend night 1 in los angeles

acutejam

It really shocked the pysche for me in Santa Cruz, first time I'd heard it live. Knew what it was about, actually deleted the studio version off the iPod as it can be a hard thing to listen to, to appreciate "just anywhere." There's a frame of mind needed, perhaps, to access it....

But seeing him do it live the first (heck, second, third, fourth) time was gut-wrenching. It must be exceedingly easy to screw up as has happened. Had read he's happier now with the loop tech Liam is using, but huh, he's done it pre-Liam obviously. I play around with guitar loops and damn if I can keep anything sane for more than a few passes -- so I really appreciate the talent it takes (major props to Liam btw).

And then, just the vocals themselves -- I'm convinced he's using the pitch shift to drop one pass down into the bone-thumping registers but wouldn't be surprise if it's natural. And then, no two ending wails are ever really the same -- so much discussion if it was even arc and not wolf during April Fools. Both? "What did we just hear?"

As the loop plays, yeah, it's neat to hear it fade (and sometimes he fades faster and not so much, seems like it was going FOREVER in Santa Cruz, not so much in Berkeley or Philly) -- but there's really no choice but to go nuts as he looks up into the crowd, is there?