who else is caring for their parents as the adult now?

luvisatowerluvisatower Posts: 1,078
edited June 2009 in All Encompassing Trip
So here's the deal.
I'm a 39 yr old educated, professional woman with children of my own, a home of my own and i am normally happy,easy going etc.

i have been taking care of my mother for the past 5 years. Last year she moved in with us as she is no longer capable of living on her own both for medical and financial reasons.

this woman who gave birth to me walked out of my life when i was 13 yrs old. for the 13 years she was in my life, every day that i can remember was a living hell. i was a physically and emotionally abused child at the hands/words of the woman who gave birth to me. i'm mostly over this, after years of therapy which is why i can tolerate the site of her, i guess.

ten years ago she had breast cancer and it has been a downhill battle with her health since then with practically ever system faltering....she will never get better. in january she had her first heart attack at the age of 58

ten years ago when i thought she would die, i made the attempt to reconnect with her, to forgive her, and it's been a very rocky relationship to say the least.

now, after the past year of living with us, she has become unbearable to tolerate. she is verbally abusive towards me and my children and I caution her about it constantly and i tell my children that it's the medication she's taking that makes her act that way, this is partially true. the woman is on some pretty strong stuff.

She is so nosey and judgemental and hyper-critical.

i do not hit my children, ever and this drives her nuts. everytime one of them mouths off, and what teenager doesnt, she tells me i should backhand them across the mouth, that'd teach them not to mouth off. as if i'd EVER raise a hand to them.

She cannot walk into a room without picking up every piece of paper, reading it making comments etc
today my youngest daughter brought home her end of year report card, making honor roll for the 4th quarter in a row and instead of congratulating her, my mother asked her why wasnt she smart enough to make high honors? this made my daughter cry.
and i'm a Hateful witch according to her when i called her on it.

this is the straw that has broken the camels back.
i cannot take it anymore. it's this you'll never be good enough, no matter what you do feeling that is coming back that was caused by her.

am i bad child for wanting this woman out of my house, my life before she damages my children as she damaged me?

she's sick, broke and has no where to go, unless you count my brother whose wife has forbid him from taking my mother in. she went there to visit once and totally tore my sister-in-law's way of life apart.


i dunno anymore.
anyone else tasked with the care of their parents?
any advice?
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  • LizardLizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    kinda of.
    PM Sent.
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    my gawd...what a situation!
    i have to say, thankfully, i am not in your situation, nor ever will be, with my mom, anyway. my mother has the means to care for herself, even if she ever gets to the point of not being able to physically do so herself.....and she also was/is an excellent mom. my father has long passed away, as has my mother-in-law. however, my father-in-law......yikes.....i had a thread about elder care just a few months ago, for very similar reasons. thankfully, he does have the financial means to care for himself, he just refuses to do so. this has been an epic battle for my husband, his siblings, and the ABUSE their father rails at them! also, even tho this man has more $$$ than he could ever use, he won't spend a dime, etc. he will not.....ever...live with us. for that i am thankful. my husband in no way wants him in our home, and will do what it takes to get him the care he needs in his own home, or get him into a home. he can spend every miserly penny his saved to live in a nursing home, his choice. it is a truly horrible situation made worse by attitidue, beratement, pettiness, etc. sounds very much like your situation. the only possible advice i may offer....can you possibly get her into nursing care? if she does not have the financial means on her own, i know there are homes for everyone. are you worried about feeling guilty about it? i know for my husband, as horrid a relationship he has always had with his dad, he's still his dad....and i know it pains him to go thru all this and to be tough, etc....but his father would just as soon bankrupt us - he honestly does not care for ANYone outside himself - before he'd willing spend a penny of his own. anyhooo....whew!....i feel for ya! i would try and look into alternative care arrangements b/c you are right....there is no reason for your home environment and peace of mind to be destroyed, mother or no. i wish you the best in dealing with this absolute shit situation. i know ours will be an on-gpoing issue for many years to come....and it sucks.
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  • luvisatowerluvisatower Posts: 1,078
    d2d, thanks for sharing.
    she does not have the means to be in nursing care. she was living on her own about 1/2 mile from me until last year and an increase in her rent of $100/month was too much for her to afford We moved her in and tried to find a cheaper place of her own and then she became medically unable to live by/care for herself. She has a very small disability/SS income, she hasnt worked in ten years due to her myriad of illnesses and isnt even retirement age yet. This will go up a bit in 6 years when she hits 65 but not enough.

    believe me i have considered it, even the state-run home. but you are right, there is the guilt. i tell myself, others tell me, that i have nothing to be guilty about.
    but, as in your husband's case, she will always be my mother.
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    d2d, thanks for sharing.
    she does not have the means to be in nursing care. she was living on her own about 1/2 mile from me until last year and an increase in her rent of $100/month was too much for her to afford We moved her in and tried to find a cheaper place of her own and then she became medically unable to live by/care for herself. She has a very small disability/SS income, she hasnt worked in ten years due to her myriad of illnesses and isnt even retirement age yet. This will go up a bit in 6 years when she hits 65 but not enough.

    believe me i have considered it, even the state-run home. but you are right, there is the guilt. i tell myself, others tell me, that i have nothing to be guilty about.
    but, as in your husband's case, she will always be my mother.




    but isn't there help for those destitute, who cannot afford care?
    or simply b/c you are related, even if estranged - for example - it's still on you?
    that's fucked.


    and as to my husband....while i am sure he still has twinges of *guilt* over his dad......given the abuse/bad relationship and all else......the fact that he DOES have the means.....the fact that they ALL have tried to help, but not doing things *exactly* as his father wants (as in being at his beck and call, on a whim, etc...being difficult doesn't even begin to encompass it).....after the last bout of mega BS....my husband basically said, fuck him. it's sad, truly sad....and i think most of all, that is what my husband most laments, never having a 'normal' relationship with his father and all that encompasses. it really is tragic, but it truly is HIS choice to be this way, see things as he chooses, and we each only get one life and while they may be your 'parent'...that fact, alone, should not mean you need to ruin your life in the interim.

    i feel sad for you both. :(
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  • CateetoCateeto Posts: 377
    Forgive me, for this may sound cold... But I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion.

    People who have fucked up our past lives do not deserve to be part of our present lives unless something in them changes 100%. I've been witness and an actual victim of this type of abuse. I've even had a lot of people try to trick me with their "changes". However, in the end, you can see a person's true colors, which it seems to be apparent in your mother's case. In my own honest opinion, you are an amazing person for taking her back into your life after she treated you so poorly and walked away from you. There is no harm in trying. However, you tried and she has not changed. She will not change. At this point in her life she feels completely comfortable and okay with living with you. She knows that she has an "in" and that you cannot just drop her. This is likely why she is releasing her true colors and treating everyone so miserably. Miserable people feed off of spreading their misery and for some twisted reason this is the only satisfaction they gain through life.

    Drop her. Just because she is your mother does not mean that you have to feel anything for her. You've had to put up with so much aftermath from her damages of the past. It takes a day at a time to heal from those wounds and having her back in your life as the same person is only going to rip those wounds open again. Worst of all, you are right in wanting to defend your own family from her because she CAN and WILL do damage to them just as she did to you. She has her own issues that she has to work out mentally and it sucks that she is having so many health problems, but she kind of asked for this a long time ago (and presently with her unchanging behavior) when she treated you like shit. She cannot just expect YOU to drop everything in your life, accept her, and take care of her if she so miserably failed to do so with you when you were younger.

    You're going to feel guilt if you kick her out. This is natural. You will feel guilt because you are a person who feels. People will tell you that it is your obligation as a daughter to help her, to feel love, and to forgive her. That's bullshit! People FEEL like they have to say this kind of garbage to be known as respectable human beings. The key here is to better your life and the life of those you care about. Unfortunately, it seems like ridding her of your life is the only way to do this. Make her deal with her own mess.

    Again, sorry is all of that sounds cold, but I'm telling you from my own experience that this is the only way to move on with your own life and be happy. Things only start to look up if you get rid of those who bring you down.
  • South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,724
    Cateeto wrote:
    Forgive me, for this may sound cold... But I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion.

    People who have fucked up our past lives do not deserve to be part of our present lives unless something in them changes 100%. I've been witness and an actual victim of this type of abuse. I've even had a lot of people try to trick me with their "changes". However, in the end, you can see a person's true colors, which it seems to be apparent in your mother's case. In my own honest opinion, you are an amazing person for taking her back into your life after she treated you so poorly and walked away from you. There is no harm in trying. However, you tried and she has not changed. She will not change. At this point in her life she feels completely comfortable and okay with living with you. She knows that she has an "in" and that you cannot just drop her. This is likely why she is releasing her true colors and treating everyone so miserably. Miserable people feed off of spreading their misery and for some twisted reason this is the only satisfaction they gain through life.

    Drop her. Just because she is your mother does not mean that you have to feel anything for her. You've had to put up with so much aftermath from her damages of the past. It takes a day at a time to heal from those wounds and having her back in your life as the same person is only going to rip those wounds open again. Worst of all, you are right in wanting to defend your own family from her because she CAN and WILL do damage to them just as she did to you. She has her own issues that she has to work out mentally and it sucks that she is having so many health problems, but she kind of asked for this a long time ago (and presently with her unchanging behavior) when she treated you like shit. She cannot just expect YOU to drop everything in your life, accept her, and take care of her if she so miserably failed to do so with you when you were younger.

    You're going to feel guilt if you kick her out. This is natural. You will feel guilt because you are a person who feels. People will tell you that it is your obligation as a daughter to help her, to feel love, and to forgive her. That's bullshit! People FEEL like they have to say this kind of garbage to be known as respectable human beings. The key here is to better your life and the life of those you care about. Unfortunately, it seems like ridding her of your life is the only way to do this. Make her deal with her own mess.

    Again, sorry is all of that sounds cold, but I'm telling you from my own experience that this is the only way to move on with your own life and be happy. Things only start to look up if you get rid of those who bring you down.

    I agree with you.
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  • Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    Send that bitch to a nursing home.
    "It's all happening"
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Send that bitch to a nursing home.

    Iwouldn't put it that way but that was I was thinking. What's the saying you reap what you sew and she has sewn her way out of your house. I help my mother out with her yard with mowing and her landscaping in general. I don't what she's going to do when I move to Florida next year.

    However, she'll have to survive without me cause I'm gone. My prayers are with you and for you. Good luck.

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  • dasvidanadasvidana Grand Junction CO Posts: 1,349
    I am wondering if there is a local social service agency that could connect her with Medicaid/other medical and social services. Once she turns 60, she will have access to mostly free services provided by the Area Agency on Aging. This agency is funded by the older Americans act (federal money) and is available in most if not all communtiies.They have social workers, counselors, nurses, etc that help community-based, low income people. They help find accomodations in section 8 housing, help with application processes for things like medicaid and medicare supplementals (e.g. Quimby), etc. I would absolutely make contact with them NOW so you can be ready to roll her out of your home without guilt by her 60th birthday.
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  • luvisatowerluvisatower Posts: 1,078
    dasvidana wrote:
    I am wondering if there is a local social service agency that could connect her with Medicaid/other medical and social services. Once she turns 60, she will have access to mostly free services provided by the Area Agency on Aging. This agency is funded by the older Americans act (federal money) and is available in most if not all communtiies.They have social workers, counselors, nurses, etc that help community-based, low income people. They help find accomodations in section 8 housing, help with application processes for things like medicaid and medicare supplementals (e.g. Quimby), etc. I would absolutely make contact with them NOW so you can be ready to roll her out of your home without guilt by her 60th birthday.

    this is a very good suggestion.
    i WILL look into this.
    thanks
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  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,781
    dasvidana wrote:
    I am wondering if there is a local social service agency that could connect her with Medicaid/other medical and social services. Once she turns 60, she will have access to mostly free services provided by the Area Agency on Aging. This agency is funded by the older Americans act (federal money) and is available in most if not all communtiies.They have social workers, counselors, nurses, etc that help community-based, low income people. They help find accomodations in section 8 housing, help with application processes for things like medicaid and medicare supplementals (e.g. Quimby), etc. I would absolutely make contact with them NOW so you can be ready to roll her out of your home without guilt by her 60th birthday.
    Great Post!!!

    Wonderful Post!!!!!

    And some of you people here just blow my fucking mind.....

    We are talking about somebodys mother here. She does not need to be referred to as a bitch.

    And it amazes me how a few of you just say "throw her out"....
    So YOU REALLY THINK the best idea is to throw SOMEONES MOTHER to the street????? FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!!

    SHE IS SOMEONES MOTHER!!!!!!!!!
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,781
    Cateeto wrote:
    Forgive me, for this may sound cold... But I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion.

    People who have fucked up our past lives do not deserve to be part of our present lives unless something in them changes 100%. I've been witness and an actual victim of this type of abuse. I've even had a lot of people try to trick me with their "changes". However, in the end, you can see a person's true colors, which it seems to be apparent in your mother's case. In my own honest opinion, you are an amazing person for taking her back into your life after she treated you so poorly and walked away from you. There is no harm in trying. However, you tried and she has not changed. She will not change. At this point in her life she feels completely comfortable and okay with living with you. She knows that she has an "in" and that you cannot just drop her. This is likely why she is releasing her true colors and treating everyone so miserably. Miserable people feed off of spreading their misery and for some twisted reason this is the only satisfaction they gain through life.

    Drop her. Just because she is your mother does not mean that you have to feel anything for her. You've had to put up with so much aftermath from her damages of the past. It takes a day at a time to heal from those wounds and having her back in your life as the same person is only going to rip those wounds open again. Worst of all, you are right in wanting to defend your own family from her because she CAN and WILL do damage to them just as she did to you. She has her own issues that she has to work out mentally and it sucks that she is having so many health problems, but she kind of asked for this a long time ago (and presently with her unchanging behavior) when she treated you like shit. She cannot just expect YOU to drop everything in your life, accept her, and take care of her if she so miserably failed to do so with you when you were younger.

    You're going to feel guilt if you kick her out. This is natural. You will feel guilt because you are a person who feels. People will tell you that it is your obligation as a daughter to help her, to feel love, and to forgive her. That's bullshit! People FEEL like they have to say this kind of garbage to be known as respectable human beings. The key here is to better your life and the life of those you care about. Unfortunately, it seems like ridding her of your life is the only way to do this. Make her deal with her own mess.

    Again, sorry is all of that sounds cold, but I'm telling you from my own experience that this is the only way to move on with your own life and be happy. Things only start to look up if you get rid of those who bring you down.
    I disagree 150%........

    You do not throw YOUR MOTHER to the streets............
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    dasvidana wrote:
    I am wondering if there is a local social service agency that could connect her with Medicaid/other medical and social services. Once she turns 60, she will have access to mostly free services provided by the Area Agency on Aging. This agency is funded by the older Americans act (federal money) and is available in most if not all communtiies.They have social workers, counselors, nurses, etc that help community-based, low income people. They help find accomodations in section 8 housing, help with application processes for things like medicaid and medicare supplementals (e.g. Quimby), etc. I would absolutely make contact with them NOW so you can be ready to roll her out of your home without guilt by her 60th birthday.
    Great Post!!!

    Wonderful Post!!!!!

    And some of you people here just blow my fucking mind.....

    We are talking about somebodys mother here. She does not need to be referred to as a bitch.

    And it amazes me how a few of you just say "throw her out"....
    So YOU REALLY THINK the best idea is to throw SOMEONES MOTHER to the street????? FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!!

    SHE IS SOMEONES MOTHER!!!!!!!!!

    luvistower wrote:
    this woman who gave birth to me walked out of my life when i was 13 yrs old. for the 13 years she was in my life, every day that i can remember was a living hell. i was a physically and emotionally abused child at the hands/words of the woman who gave birth to me. i'm mostly over this, after years of therapy which is why i can tolerate the site of her, i guess.


    i hear ya speedy, i do...and overall..i agree. however, being a 'mother' in and of itself, truly, doesn't mean much. LOTs of people are mothers, and fathers, and abuse the shit out of their kids, etc. so all of that does come into play. just sayin'.


    i AM glad that dasvidana was able to provide such detailed info. i was alluding to such services above, but i don't know much about them....just that they do, indeed, exist.
    Stay with me...
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  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,200
    Cateeto wrote:
    Forgive me, for this may sound cold... But I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion.

    People who have fucked up our past lives do not deserve to be part of our present lives unless something in them changes 100%. I've been witness and an actual victim of this type of abuse. I've even had a lot of people try to trick me with their "changes". However, in the end, you can see a person's true colors, which it seems to be apparent in your mother's case. In my own honest opinion, you are an amazing person for taking her back into your life after she treated you so poorly and walked away from you. There is no harm in trying. However, you tried and she has not changed. She will not change. At this point in her life she feels completely comfortable and okay with living with you. She knows that she has an "in" and that you cannot just drop her. This is likely why she is releasing her true colors and treating everyone so miserably. Miserable people feed off of spreading their misery and for some twisted reason this is the only satisfaction they gain through life.

    Drop her. Just because she is your mother does not mean that you have to feel anything for her. You've had to put up with so much aftermath from her damages of the past. It takes a day at a time to heal from those wounds and having her back in your life as the same person is only going to rip those wounds open again. Worst of all, you are right in wanting to defend your own family from her because she CAN and WILL do damage to them just as she did to you. She has her own issues that she has to work out mentally and it sucks that she is having so many health problems, but she kind of asked for this a long time ago (and presently with her unchanging behavior) when she treated you like shit. She cannot just expect YOU to drop everything in your life, accept her, and take care of her if she so miserably failed to do so with you when you were younger.

    You're going to feel guilt if you kick her out. This is natural. You will feel guilt because you are a person who feels. People will tell you that it is your obligation as a daughter to help her, to feel love, and to forgive her. That's bullshit! People FEEL like they have to say this kind of garbage to be known as respectable human beings. The key here is to better your life and the life of those you care about. Unfortunately, it seems like ridding her of your life is the only way to do this. Make her deal with her own mess.

    Again, sorry is all of that sounds cold, but I'm telling you from my own experience that this is the only way to move on with your own life and be happy. Things only start to look up if you get rid of those who bring you down.
    I disagree 150%........

    You do not throw YOUR MOTHER to the streets............

    Putting her on the the streets is not the answer but a nursing home might help alleviate the stress of having her mother in her home. She has to try and raise her children in the best home environment as possible and if her mother deter her from that then she HAS to look into other alternatives for her mother to live.

    Peace
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  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    First, I want to say to luvisatower that my heart goes out to you and what you are dealing with. I absolutely believe that there are solutions for you.

    I empathize with you, not because my situation directly corresponds to yours but in part because I am also involved with caregiving for my 82 year old mother. Since my dad died in 2007 she has become more and more dependent on me and my husband.

    Also, I almost revived d2d's thread on caring for aging parent's last month when my mother-in-law suddenly passed away as a result of a massive stroke. I have a lot of concerns about my father-in-law, who still lives independently but I don't know how he is going to manage on his own after losing his wife of 57 years. He is putting up a brave front but my husband and I are wondering how he will do over time.

    I also empathize with you because I spent many years working in social services, including several years working for an agency where I taught classes for people caring for aging relatives. I heard many, many stories that were not unlike yours. People often have very valid reasons for distancing themselves from their relatives. You have looked at the situation and I think you are making the best decision for yourself and your children. Your mother chooses to behave the way she does. It might be hard for her to change at this point in her life but it would still be possible. However, she still chooses to wreak havoc in the lives of you and your family. You know her and know how to deal with her but your children don't. That's why you're doing the right thing to make a break with her.
    dasvidana wrote:
    I am wondering if there is a local social service agency that could connect her with Medicaid/other medical and social services. Once she turns 60, she will have access to mostly free services provided by the Area Agency on Aging. This agency is funded by the older Americans act (federal money) and is available in most if not all communtiies.They have social workers, counselors, nurses, etc that help community-based, low income people. They help find accomodations in section 8 housing, help with application processes for things like medicaid and medicare supplementals (e.g. Quimby), etc. I would absolutely make contact with them NOW so you can be ready to roll her out of your home without guilt by her 60th birthday.

    This is very good advice and along the lines of what I was going to suggest. Since your mom is under 60 and probably not eligible for services through AAA, they will probably advise you which agency/agencies can direct you to the appropriate services. For someone just starting out and trying to get information, I would recommend calling the local United Way or Mental Health Association. (Even though the problem doesn't seem to be mental health related, most MHAs have an information and referral service that can guide you to the appropriate agencies. I worked at one for 5 years doing that. ;) ) Some communities like mine have a referral service when you dial 2-1-1 so you might even try that.

    Finally, as far as feeling guilty, that's a pretty natural response. Just don't let it weigh you down. Balance it with what you're doing for your kids. In particular, don't accept any guilt from your mom. I said this in the other parent thread: it takes 2 to make a guilt trip, a guilt-or and a guilt-ee. Our parents have a lot of practice at making us feel guilty for things we do. Don't buy it from your mom.

    I'm sorry I didn't post sooner. I injured a tendon in my right arm and I'm trying very hard to limit my computer use! All the best to you. [hugs]
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  • CateetoCateeto Posts: 377
    Cateeto wrote:
    Forgive me, for this may sound cold... But I'm just trying to give you my honest opinion.

    People who have fucked up our past lives do not deserve to be part of our present lives unless something in them changes 100%. I've been witness and an actual victim of this type of abuse. I've even had a lot of people try to trick me with their "changes". However, in the end, you can see a person's true colors, which it seems to be apparent in your mother's case. In my own honest opinion, you are an amazing person for taking her back into your life after she treated you so poorly and walked away from you. There is no harm in trying. However, you tried and she has not changed. She will not change. At this point in her life she feels completely comfortable and okay with living with you. She knows that she has an "in" and that you cannot just drop her. This is likely why she is releasing her true colors and treating everyone so miserably. Miserable people feed off of spreading their misery and for some twisted reason this is the only satisfaction they gain through life.

    Drop her. Just because she is your mother does not mean that you have to feel anything for her. You've had to put up with so much aftermath from her damages of the past. It takes a day at a time to heal from those wounds and having her back in your life as the same person is only going to rip those wounds open again. Worst of all, you are right in wanting to defend your own family from her because she CAN and WILL do damage to them just as she did to you. She has her own issues that she has to work out mentally and it sucks that she is having so many health problems, but she kind of asked for this a long time ago (and presently with her unchanging behavior) when she treated you like shit. She cannot just expect YOU to drop everything in your life, accept her, and take care of her if she so miserably failed to do so with you when you were younger.

    You're going to feel guilt if you kick her out. This is natural. You will feel guilt because you are a person who feels. People will tell you that it is your obligation as a daughter to help her, to feel love, and to forgive her. That's bullshit! People FEEL like they have to say this kind of garbage to be known as respectable human beings. The key here is to better your life and the life of those you care about. Unfortunately, it seems like ridding her of your life is the only way to do this. Make her deal with her own mess.

    Again, sorry is all of that sounds cold, but I'm telling you from my own experience that this is the only way to move on with your own life and be happy. Things only start to look up if you get rid of those who bring you down.
    I disagree 150%........

    You do not throw YOUR MOTHER to the streets............
    I would. Seriously.

    I'm guessing you were brought up in a decent environment. It's not about being a mother. It's about how someone treats you.
  • Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Fuck kinda sounds like my mum.
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  • luvisatowerluvisatower Posts: 1,078
    thank you all for for your thoughts.
    and as many of you have said, even though she never was what anyone would call a "good mom" she still is my mother and like it or not, i'm charged with caring for her now. i dont think i would be capable of putting her out into the street unless she were to strike one of my children. and that hasnt happened.

    i do feel that finding her some assisted care living arrangements are in the best interest of myself and my family.
    it's just a matter of how and where.
    She is only 58 and even though she is on SS disability, she doesnt qualify for senior citizen assistance for a few more years.
    There are a few places i've contacted and for the most part, i'm looking at at least 2 years of her still being here with me due to her age and also the waiting lists and other beaurocratic bs that has to be dealt with.

    my kids know their grandma is sick and on heavy medication and i tell them not to take anything she says to them to heart as her mental condition has deteriorated. they understand this even though it isnt easy and it does affect them sometimes.

    i've also told her she must go get some counseling and have found her a counselor who specializes in chronically ill patients. maybe this'll help, maybe it wont, but at least it's something.

    i do have PoA for her and this makes it at least easy to make the appointments, make her go, etc but it's on her to benefit from it.

    i do appreciate all the support our little "community" has given.
    it's times like this that make me glad i'm a part of the best fan-base in the world


    hugs to all
    and good luck to all of us in the "raising our parents" boat.
    peace,
    ~luv~
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  • PJaddictedPJaddicted Posts: 1,432
    Alls I can say is I'm so sorry....it must be so difficult. I lost my Dad 4 years ago at only 70 years old, he was healthy until the day he died, and at the time I was feeling so fortunate that both my parents were in such good shape, and bang....only days later he was dead. I had to basically care for my mom and help her get though his sudden shocking death. My parents had been together since they were 15 and 17 years old. My mother suddenly became like a child, she was in shock and sobbing for months on end, her soul mate was gone, and she had no idea how to live life without him. Thankfully, she was only 68 in terrific health and decided to go toward life instead of death. If she didn't have me, she has said she would have followed my dad. She almost took me out with her pain, but we came though it. She still can't even mention his name without sobbing, but she is alive again. She now lives with her boyfriend and is more active then she ever was. Taking trips, eating out, dancing, biking, working out, hiking, and she just recently bought a small place in FL right on the water. I am truly grateful for more good time with my mom. Thank you for the reminder to NOT take her for granted.
    ~*LIVE~LOVE~LAUGH*~

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  • Steve DunneSteve Dunne Posts: 4,965
    Jesus J - sorry to read all this...You are one strong woman for doing what you do for your family, your mother, and yourself. Just be sure to hide your poster collection in case she goes ballistic!!!!!!! (trying to make you smile a bit here).
    I love to turn you on
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    thank you all for for your thoughts.
    and as many of you have said, even though she never was what anyone would call a "good mom" she still is my mother and like it or not, i'm charged with caring for her now. i dont think i would be capable of putting her out into the street unless she were to strike one of my children. and that hasnt happened.

    i do feel that finding her some assisted care living arrangements are in the best interest of myself and my family.
    it's just a matter of how and where.
    She is only 58 and even though she is on SS disability, she doesnt qualify for senior citizen assistance for a few more years.
    There are a few places i've contacted and for the most part, i'm looking at at least 2 years of her still being here with me due to her age and also the waiting lists and other beaurocratic bs that has to be dealt with.

    my kids know their grandma is sick and on heavy medication and i tell them not to take anything she says to them to heart as her mental condition has deteriorated. they understand this even though it isnt easy and it does affect them sometimes.

    i've also told her she must go get some counseling and have found her a counselor who specializes in chronically ill patients. maybe this'll help, maybe it wont, but at least it's something.

    i do have PoA for her and this makes it at least easy to make the appointments, make her go, etc but it's on her to benefit from it.

    i do appreciate all the support our little "community" has given.
    it's times like this that make me glad i'm a part of the best fan-base in the world


    hugs to all
    and good luck to all of us in the "raising our parents" boat.
    peace,
    ~luv~



    i'm so glad you are finding some answers...some solutions....for the here and now, and down the road. wish you the very best, and your mother is a VERY fortunate woman. i hope she does realize that. all the best.....hearts & thoughts and all that warm, fuzzy stuff.......:)
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


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