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VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
edited June 2009 in A Moving Train
How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?
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  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    that would be an amazing step, wouldn't it?
    idk if it's possible.....but i also think, perhaps it is.....if all the powers that be could truly see the good of it, truly.

    then again....some may call me a dreamer, but i'm not the only one. ;)
    give peace a chance.
    8-)


    it WOULD be great to see EVERYone, the world over, take that simple...monumental step. one small step...and imagine where it may go from there?
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

    What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?

    What about the millions in Africa intent on wiping out the neighboring tribe that don't get tv?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    soulsinging wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

    What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?

    What about the millions in Africa intent on wiping out the neighboring tribe that don't get tv?

    or caves in the tribal regions of Afgan/Pakistan ;)
  • mrveddersonmrvedderson Posts: 784
    jlew24asu wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

    What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?

    What about the millions in Africa intent on wiping out the neighboring tribe that don't get tv?

    or caves in the tribal regions of Afgan/Pakistan ;)


    oh they got satellite tv there
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    soulsinging wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

    What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?

    What about the millions in Africa intent on wiping out the neighboring tribe that don't get tv?

    I hear that loud and clear. I'm sure if our country actually took major strides to stop firing, it could potentially catch on in "remote" areas.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    of course your idea is awesome. but the world doesnt quite work that way, sadly. although I would certainly support this 110%.

    get it goin VINNY :) I got your back
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?
    You're making a valid point....could peace spread just like war? Don't know...there always seems to be groups of folks who just can't play along...I mean India and Pakistan fire off a few rounds everyday at each other in the Kashmir region just to keep up the pretense....then there are always the folks who are having to defend themselves....like in regions of Africa....then you got our buddies in North Korea.
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    tybird wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?
    You're making a valid point....could peace spread just like war? Don't know...there always seems to be groups of folks who just can't play along...I mean India and Pakistan fire off a few rounds everyday at each other in the Kashmir region just to keep up the pretense....then there are always the folks who are having to defend themselves....like in regions of Africa....then you got our buddies in North Korea.

    Is it me, or has this concept NEVER been tried before (at least on this scale)?
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    jlew24asu wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    of course your idea is awesome. but the world doesnt quite work that way, sadly. although I would certainly support this 110%.

    get it goin VINNY :) I got your back

    I guess a petition to Barry would be the place to start. A website, maybe? I'll see what I can whip up.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    I don't know. But I do know that there are those who will always see someone else's hesitation to use violence as a weakness to be exploited by a first strike. It's human nature, the law of the jungle, whatever you want to call it. We're animals, not enlightened beings.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    soulsinging wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    I don't know. But I do know that there are those who will always see someone else's hesitation to use violence as a weakness to be exploited by a first strike. It's human nature, the law of the jungle, whatever you want to call it. We're animals, not enlightened beings.

    In your eyes, worth a shot or no?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    I don't know. But I do know that there are those who will always see someone else's hesitation to use violence as a weakness to be exploited by a first strike. It's human nature, the law of the jungle, whatever you want to call it. We're animals, not enlightened beings.

    In your eyes, worth a shot or no?

    I'd see no harm in trying, I just don't think there's a prayer of being able to get a significant number of people on board.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Even if the results were imperfect, as in, places with no communications do not subscribe to the worldwide cease-fire, wouldn't it be worth a shot? If the peace were to continue, couldn't news of this eventually reach these areas and potentially inspire a similar attitude?

    of course your idea is awesome. but the world doesnt quite work that way, sadly. although I would certainly support this 110%.

    get it goin VINNY :) I got your back

    I guess a petition to Barry would be the place to start. A website, maybe? I'll see what I can whip up.


    i love how you are on a first-name, casual basis with 'barry'....:P
    it just always cracks me up when i read your posts referencing the prez as such, dunno why.....
    carry on....fight the good fight, for peace!
    :D
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    soulsinging wrote:

    I'd see no harm in trying, I just don't think there's a prayer of being able to get a significant number of people on board.

    I think it would take the Commander in Chief of the country that has been involved in more conflicts, and fired more bullets than just about any other country in the world to start the process. If he decides our guns stop, then so do his generals, and on down the line. It would be viewed as a tremendous leap of faith on our part-- so much so that I think a few countries will sign on immediately, and others would actually be suspicious of it. Nonetheless, if we do it, we'd have to stick to it. There probably would be some residual violence after a declaration of peace, by the people you speak of who are taking advantage of the guard being down. However, it is the commitment on our part, even after being attacked that would give this idea any chance of taking root.
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    decides2dream wrote:
    i love how you are on a first-name, casual basis with 'barry'....:P
    it just always cracks me up when i read your posts referencing the prez as such, dunno why.....
    carry on....fight the good fight, for peace!
    :D
    Glad you love it. Don't know where I really got it from, just started calling him that one day... Barry O.! I guess it's kind of like how people were calling Bush "Dubya" shortly after his presidency.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    decides2dream wrote:
    i love how you are on a first-name, casual basis with 'barry'....:P
    it just always cracks me up when i read your posts referencing the prez as such, dunno why.....
    carry on....fight the good fight, for peace!
    :D
    Glad you love it. Don't know where I really got it from, just started calling him that one day... Barry O.! I guess it's kind of like how people were calling Bush "Dubya" shortly after his presidency.



    well i hope it's not with the same disdain, b/c i was taking it as light-hearted. i know it's been mentioned that his friends and family call him barry, so i just thought it rather cute tht you did/do. :P now bush/dubya....firstly i thought it was simply to distinguish "W." from bush senior/dad.....and became 'dubya' in homage to his good ole boy BS, so yea.....i always used it mockingly, not respectfullly....


    however, i digress from your excellent plea......so simple, but could well be very powerful.....
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    I'd see no harm in trying, I just don't think there's a prayer of being able to get a significant number of people on board.

    I think it would take the Commander in Chief of the country that has been involved in more conflicts, and fired more bullets than just about any other country in the world to start the process. If he decides our guns stop, then so do his generals, and on down the line. It would be viewed as a tremendous leap of faith on our part-- so much so that I think a few countries will sign on immediately, and others would actually be suspicious of it. Nonetheless, if we do it, we'd have to stick to it. There probably would be some residual violence after a declaration of peace, by the people you speak of who are taking advantage of the guard being down. However, it is the commitment on our part, even after being attacked that would give this idea any chance of taking root.

    do you honestly believe the Taliban and el queda would follow our lead?
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    jlew24asu wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    I'd see no harm in trying, I just don't think there's a prayer of being able to get a significant number of people on board.

    I think it would take the Commander in Chief of the country that has been involved in more conflicts, and fired more bullets than just about any other country in the world to start the process. If he decides our guns stop, then so do his generals, and on down the line. It would be viewed as a tremendous leap of faith on our part-- so much so that I think a few countries will sign on immediately, and others would actually be suspicious of it. Nonetheless, if we do it, we'd have to stick to it. There probably would be some residual violence after a declaration of peace, by the people you speak of who are taking advantage of the guard being down. However, it is the commitment on our part, even after being attacked that would give this idea any chance of taking root.

    do you honestly believe the Taliban and el queda would follow our lead?

    Possibly, yes. I can't begin to truly understand their mindset, but I would think that after years of this, they too are tired of fighting. We keep fighting, they keep fighting. They keep fighting, we keep fighting. "Who struck first?" is about as good of a question as, "The chicken or the egg?" The one thing we agree upon right now is that ought to keep blowing each other up. What if one side simply said, "no more." Ironically, both sides are "fighting for peace," right? How about we just skip the war, and get right to the peace...
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    decides2dream wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    decides2dream wrote:
    i love how you are on a first-name, casual basis with 'barry'....:P
    it just always cracks me up when i read your posts referencing the prez as such, dunno why.....
    carry on....fight the good fight, for peace!
    :D
    Glad you love it. Don't know where I really got it from, just started calling him that one day... Barry O.! I guess it's kind of like how people were calling Bush "Dubya" shortly after his presidency.



    well i hope it's not with the same disdain, b/c i was taking it as light-hearted. i know it's been mentioned that his friends and family call him barry, so i just thought it rather cute tht you did/do. :P now bush/dubya....firstly i thought it was simply to distinguish "W." from bush senior/dad.....and became 'dubya' in homage to his good ole boy BS, so yea.....i always used it mockingly, not respectfullly....


    however, i digress from your excellent plea......so simple, but could well be very powerful.....

    I use "Barry" every way you can imagine. ;)
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    jlew24asu wrote:
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    soulsinging wrote:

    I'd see no harm in trying, I just don't think there's a prayer of being able to get a significant number of people on board.

    I think it would take the Commander in Chief of the country that has been involved in more conflicts, and fired more bullets than just about any other country in the world to start the process. If he decides our guns stop, then so do his generals, and on down the line. It would be viewed as a tremendous leap of faith on our part-- so much so that I think a few countries will sign on immediately, and others would actually be suspicious of it. Nonetheless, if we do it, we'd have to stick to it. There probably would be some residual violence after a declaration of peace, by the people you speak of who are taking advantage of the guard being down. However, it is the commitment on our part, even after being attacked that would give this idea any chance of taking root.

    do you honestly believe the Taliban and el queda would follow our lead?

    Put it this way, it might just be crazy enough to work! For one thing, it really hasn't been tried yet.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    dude, set up a website. lets spread this across the interwebs and see what we can do.


    great idea.


    7 day world-wide ceasefire
  • VINNY GOOMBAVINNY GOOMBA Posts: 1,818
    Kotov Syndrome wrote:
    dude, set up a website. lets spread this across the interwebs and see what we can do.


    great idea.


    7 day world-wide ceasefire

    Maybe a facebook group first, see how it takes off, then a website?
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Kotov Syndrome wrote:
    dude, set up a website. lets spread this across the interwebs and see what we can do.


    great idea.


    7 day world-wide ceasefire

    Maybe a facebook group first, see how it takes off, then a website?

    sure.
  • decides2dreamdecides2dream Posts: 14,977
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    I use "Barry" every way you can imagine. ;)


    :o :shock: :o
    tsk, tsk....idk what michelle would have to say about that!
    dirty, dirty! ;)
    :mrgreen:


    and hey, i'm not a FB person....but you get a website goin'...you let us all know!
    Stay with me...
    Let's just breathe...


    I am myself like you somehow


  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    take a look around this board..Byzine and his side kick Kotov Syndrome are just two examples why this would never work. and they are just two individuals. their same mentality is that of the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden. the US can adopt a peace only policy from now until the end of time and it won't change their negative view of America. maybe because someone always needs to hate the guy on top. cant change that.

    but I like the idea. I support peace.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    How about a worldwide 7-day cease fire? If it works out alright, let's try another 7... and another, and another, etc...

    What would it take, but Barry O., and maybe a few other world leaders committed to this idea, a single one-minute speech televised throughout the world simply asking everyone to put down their guns for one week?

    the animal kingdom doesnt work that way. lions have claws... elephants have tusks and mankind has weapons of mass destruction and the arrogance that no matter who we are or what side were on, we are in the right. and as you all know that is wrong.
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  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    edited June 2009
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Kotov Syndrome wrote:
    jlew24asu wrote:
    take a look around this board..Byzine and his side kick Kotov Syndrome are just two examples why this would never work. and they are just two individuals. their same mentality is that of the Taliban or Osama Bin Laden. the US can adopt a peace only policy from now until the end of time and it won't change their negative view of America. maybe because someone always needs to hate the guy on top. cant change that.

    but I like the idea. I support peace.
    lol.


    you are an idiot.

    I wonder if Mr Policeman will come in and quote your post.


    what I said was true. I know your type. the kind of kid that was picked last in school kickball. someone who never amounted to much. always hated the cool kids in school. same thing applies to hating America. only on a larger scale. people always resent the best.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    edited June 2009
    lets not close this thread.
    Post edited by Commy on
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