EUROPEAN TIX PRESALE FORUM DIALOGUE WITH PJ MGR KELLY CURTIS

dunkman wrote:

1. Why was there a 30 hour delay when no member of staff could inform the forum/fans of the ticketing problems?

2. Why then release an email at 00:30 UK time, when most fans were asleep, about lack of a pre-sale thus giving European fans absolutely no warning about lack of tenclub privileges?

3. Why on earth did the forum not then announce a 2nd night had been added to the Euro Tour?

4. A full 12 hours later why is the 2nd night still not formally announced on the bands own webpage/forum?

5. Why does Ed never return my calls about my proposed Crazy Golf day out with me, him, Dustin Hoffman and Heather Mills?

number 5 has still not been answered!

If you are disgusted with the band & 10c, stop buying anything from either. They need a wakeup call. Saboteur!!- --give me a break--Santa came down my chimney last night & had a few drinks with me!

"dis"OCCUPY ten club

lauriehester wrote:

I don't understand why people think that someone who loves the band enough to travel to another country to see PJ and who gets a ticket when a local doesn't is unfair. Those touring fans (most of them) don't have any more money than you do; they are just more dedicated... they don't spend money on the latest technological gadget, they spend their money on PJ... It takes a huge effort to tour, and touring fans are never left sitting outside a venue. Tix are always available if you really want one. So be careful before you scapegoat the touring fans (without whom you wouldn't have such varied setlists), when you, as a local, have the advantage. Go to the venue and stand in line for day-of-show releases, while the touring fans are still traveling from the last show... and touring fans are always hanging around the box office getting rid of extras for face value.

cause chances are that local show is the only show local fan can afford in these tough times or has the desire to go to. also the band would get more of a local vibe rather than a mish mosh of people. its cool people follow them if you got the means and aren't a dunce who goes into huge debt just to follow them.

also people who follow the band aren't any more bigger of a fan than a person who doesn't follow them. that's a very elitist way of thinking and sure as fuck isn't what the bands thinking has ever been. also fans who follow the band aren't the reason why the setlist are varied, they are varied cause the band doesn't wanna be a shit lame ass greatest hits act like a few bands that i won't slag on here.

btw-me personally i'd love to follow the band on a northeast or midwest leg of a tour, but i don't have means to so i'm stuck with just the local shows.

jimc3 wrote:

and the "any better ideas, let me know" is kinda insulting. Um, how bout the THOUSANDS of posts people have made with suggestions / ideas over the years?

He said "better ideas", not that crap.

RE4790 wrote:

metsfan wrote:

lauriehester wrote:

I don't understand why people think that someone who loves the band enough to travel to another country to see PJ and who gets a ticket when a local doesn't is unfair. Those touring fans (most of them) don't have any more money than you do; they are just more dedicated... they don't spend money on the latest technological gadget, they spend their money on PJ... It takes a huge effort to tour, and touring fans are never left sitting outside a venue. Tix are always available if you really want one. So be careful before you scapegoat the touring fans (without whom you wouldn't have such varied setlists), when you, as a local, have the advantage. Go to the venue and stand in line for day-of-show releases, while the touring fans are still traveling from the last show... and touring fans are always hanging around the box office getting rid of extras for face value.

cause chances are that local show is the only show local fan can afford in these tough times or has the desire to go to. also the band would get more of a local vibe rather than a mish mosh of people. its cool people follow them if you got the means and aren't a dunce who goes into huge debt just to follow them.

also people who follow the band aren't any more bigger of a fan than a person who doesn't follow them. that's a very elitist way of thinking and sure as fuck isn't what the bands thinking has ever been. also fans who follow the band aren't the reason why the setlist are varied, they are varied cause the band doesn't wanna be a shit lame ass greatest hits act like a few bands that i won't slag on here.

btw-me personally i'd love to follow the band on a northeast or midwest leg of a tour, but i don't have means to so i'm stuck with just the local shows.

It's elitist to think that being born on one side of some arbitrary boundary entitles a PJ fan to 10c tickets while denying another fan that same opportunity.

What about fans in areas they never play? What about people who have to work the night of their local show? Should they get shut out of 10c tickets because they don't happen be available for their one local show? What about the 9 million people in NYC? How would anyone get 10c tickets to an MSG show that did not live there?

And FFS people, locals who get shut out can still tickets from the general sale. It's true!!! They do still sell non-10c tickets to PJ concerts. Crazy, right?

I agree with everything you said. I will say though that getting a good ticket outside of through the fan club is starting to get difficult these days due to scalpers, season ticket holders and the other strange things that cause there to be a low % of tickets available at the time of the public on-sale.

If you don't get fan club tickets, then you are usually buying upper deck seats, or paying more on Stubhub/Ebay to get the better seats.