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Freedom isn't Free

Postby aerial » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:08 am

I believe there are still patriots like this in our country but you won't find them in Washington D.C. Our government is becoming the greatest enemy to our freedoms.



Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.

These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. God bless America the one country unique in all the world and something worth standing up for!
“We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby 81 » Wed Jan 09, 2013 9:10 am

no kidding it's not free...have you seen my tax bill :lol:
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby fear4freedom » Wed Jan 09, 2013 10:08 am

What are you doing posting something positive about the uniqueness of USA! You will be "beheaded" here if you continue to do that! LOL

It is an amazing story....and most people overlook the good, the bravery and the true investment of knowledge, wisdom, lives, etc.

God bless the USA!
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Who Princess » Wed Jan 09, 2013 1:43 pm

For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby fear4freedom » Wed Jan 09, 2013 3:02 pm

Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


YES because SNOPES is the center of the universe and the law of the land! Better go there now.....thanks
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby aerial » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:41 pm

fear4freedom wrote:What are you doing posting something positive about the uniqueness of USA! You will be "beheaded" here if you continue to do that! LOL

It is an amazing story....and most people overlook the good, the bravery and the true investment of knowledge, wisdom, lives, etc.


God bless the USA! Are there still REAL heroes..........
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby dimitrispearljam » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:54 pm

Can't buy what I want because it's free...
ATHENS - 30-9-06 / VENICE - 15-6-07(CANCELED) / NEW YORK - 24-6-08 / NEW YORK - 25-6-08 / ROTTERDAM - 13-8-09 / BERLIN - 15-8-09 / MANCHESTER - 17-8-09 / LONDON - 18-8-09 / DUBLIN - 22-6-10 / BELFAST - 23-6-10 / LONDON - 25-6-10 / NIJMEGEN - 27-6-10 / BERLIN - 30-6-10 / ARRAS - 3-7-10 / WERCHTER - 4-7-10 / VENICE - 6-7-10 / BILBAO - 9-7-10 / LISBON - 10-7-10 /EAST TROY 3-9-11 / EAST TROY 4-9-11 / TORONTO 11-9-11 / TORONTO 12-9-11 / AMSTERDAM 26-6-12 / AMSTERDAM 27-6-12 / PRAGUE 2-7-12 / BERLIN 4-7-12 / BERLIN 5-7-12 / STOCKHOLM 7-7-12 / OSLO 9-7-12 / COPENHAGEN 10-7-12
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:37 pm

Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


most of this rah rah bullshit is just that.......non-researched BS.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby aerial » Thu Jan 10, 2013 6:16 am

Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


Snopes seems to put there own spin on thins......
Here is a fact......These Statesmen did not sit in Washington spending tax payers money, they worked, they went to war, they sacrificed. They were not set up for life on the tax payers dollar......if we compare them to today's policy makers they are Heroes.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Hugh Freaking Dillon » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:18 am

aerial wrote:
Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


Snopes seems to put there own spin on thins......
Here is a fact......These Statesmen did not sit in Washington spending tax payers money, they worked, they went to war, they sacrificed. They were not set up for life on the tax payers dollar......if we compare them to today's policy makers they are Heroes.


judge them on their own merits, not on the merits of others.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby JimmyV » Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:49 am

aerial wrote:
Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


Snopes seems to put there own spin on thins......
Here is a fact......These Statesmen did not sit in Washington spending tax payers money, they worked, they went to war, they sacrificed. They were not set up for life on the tax payers dollar......if we compare them to today's policy makers they are Heroes.


Here is another fact...

Washington did not exist when the Declaration was signed.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Who Princess » Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:08 pm

aerial wrote:
Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


Snopes seems to put there own spin on thins......
Here is a fact......These Statesmen did not sit in Washington spending tax payers money, they worked, they went to war, they sacrificed. They were not set up for life on the tax payers dollar......if we compare them to today's policy makers they are Heroes.

And the point Snopes makes is that their actions in signing the Declaration of Independence and going to war with Britain make them compelling enough. Their stories don't need to be embellished with events that are exaggerated or didn't happen.
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Moonpig » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:51 am

aerial wrote:
I believe there are still patriots like this in our country but you won't find them in Washington D.C. Our government is becoming the greatest enemy to our freedoms.



Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence?

Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army; another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they?

Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured.

Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr. noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later, he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution.

These were not wild-eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. God bless America the one country unique in all the world and something worth standing up for!


Many nations were founded on stories like this, what makes the USA unique?
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby Moonpig » Fri Jan 11, 2013 5:57 am

aerial wrote:
Who Princess wrote:For the umpteenth time, does nobody ever check Snopes for this stuff?

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/pricepaid.asp

Some of the op is accurate and some of it's not.


Snopes seems to put there own spin on thins......
Here is a fact......These Statesmen did not sit in Washington spending tax payers money, they worked, they went to war, they sacrificed. They were not set up for life on the tax payers dollar......if we compare them to today's policy makers they are Heroes.


So hold on a sec, your gripe now is that your politicians aren't on the front line? Do I really need to explain to you the different conditions with which you are trying to compare?

:lol:

If Obama suited up for war and headed off, you'd accuse him of dereliction of duty. Some of you really should just admit your hate for this guy and be done with it, you're really fooling no one. Or wise up and join the free thinking world, the one that prides itself on facts and critical thinking, and bases little emphasis on coming to conclusions on hunches or other such limiting factors
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Re: Freedom isn't Free

Postby USARAY » Fri Jan 11, 2013 3:02 pm

yeah i like the thread title its true why some will fight
the spirit here thats what is unique our ancestors our blood do we think our great great greats
were ever forgiven for bailing on the old country
we are the newbie and we fuckin rule the world must be a real bite in the arse sure seems so
sorry motherships are you sinking first :lol: maybe the young whippersnapper can bail you out
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