Not right away of course. But a tribute at a future date might help with the grieving process. I understand getting over the shock is gonna take awhile.
I imagine music is the last thing on the Soundgarden family's mind right now. This is someone they have all known and been close to for decades. I can't imagine what they are going through right now.
I thought the same thing OP. I also thought it was too soon to air it. I think it would be an amazing tribute, but it would need to be pure and soul-full like the original album was. And not called Temple. A different name, because it is a different time. I look at it as a chance for the music community to heal and express themselves. Matt, Ben, Kim, Tom, Brad, Tim, Mike, Stone, Jeff, and Ed (and so many more). Not for the money, for the music. For Chris.
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I imagine music is the last thing on the Soundgarden family's mind right now. This is someone they have all known and been close to for decades. I can't imagine what they are going through right now.
I'd add Pearl Jam I don't see Matt getting behind any drum kit any time soon I just don't ! Forget any tours ...
Perhaps Matt would use the drum kit as therapy after a break of some length. Sad to say, but life goes on and playing music would be something that Chris would want.
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I must be insensitive, too, because I had a similar thought. Paying tribute to someone is insensitive?
Not insensitive, perhaps that would be therapy for some
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RIP Andrew Wood, Kurt Cobain, Layne Staley, and Chris Cornell
RIP Mom (may your star shine the brightest in the sky, our family loves and misses you very much, we'll meet again)
It's not insensitive. Our role in this is the listeners. It's not outrageous to think about music. TOTD is exactly the reason why we want more.
All we all are doing is sitting around and thinking. We can't help in any way. We can't say goodbye/pay our respects at the funeral. We don't get that step in the process. So this is what we do. Sit around and think. That's not insensitive. It's not too soon. We're thinking. We're talking. The only thing we're allowed to do right now.
Oh please let it rain today.
Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
There will never be a Temple of the Dog 2. It is not 1991 anymore where there are a bunch of anonymous musicians who can make music for the love of making music and to honor their friend.
Maybe it could happen but I highly doubt there could be something as organic and special as TOTD again. I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
The facts don't back you up though.
You would think that if people really wanted to make a record together, and they tour about 6 weeks on average a year and have the rest of the year to devote to their interests, would make a damn record. I'm not knocking the band. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see. Usually if people really want to do something, and they have the time and money to do it, they would do it. Remember, it takes them 3-6 weeks of studio time to record an album based on what they said about Lightning Bolt being done in two 3 week sessions. We all spend most of our life working when we don't want to. If we had the time and money we wouldn't work so much and do stuff we really wanted to do. It sounds like Pearl Jam doesn't want to spend their whole life being Pearl Jam and have the time and money not to.
I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
The facts don't back you up though.
You would think that if people really wanted to make a record together, and they tour about 6 weeks on average a year and have the rest of the year to devote to their interests, would make a damn record. I'm not knocking the band. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see. Usually if people really want to do something, and they have the time and money to do it, they would do it. Remember, it takes them 3-6 weeks of studio time to record an album based on what they said about Lightning Bolt being done in two 3 week sessions. We all spend most of our life working when we don't want to. If we had the time and money we wouldn't work so much and do stuff we really wanted to do. It sounds like Pearl Jam doesn't want to spend their whole life being Pearl Jam and have the time and money not to.
First 12 years: 7 albums
Ten - 1991
Vs. - 1993
Vitalogy - 1994
No Code - 1996
Yield - 1998
Binaural - 2000
Riot Act - 2002
Last 16 years: 4 albums
Pearl Jam - 2006
Backspacer - 2009
Lightning Bolt - 2013
New album - 2018 probably
There has also been a lot of solo material from the musicians in Pearl Jam post 2002.
You guy's can't be serious, right? New albums? TOTD 2? I'm not sure all of you get the gravity of this moment, get your shit together everyone. Way too soon to have any thoughts along any of these lines.
I know it's not done on purpose but comes across as insensitive and just plain ignorant. Do what you want, free country, each individuals as Ed would say, but just doesn't seem right, sorry, just my thoughts on this particular subject, again, to each their own
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I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
The facts don't back you up though.
You would think that if people really wanted to make a record together, and they tour about 6 weeks on average a year and have the rest of the year to devote to their interests, would make a damn record. I'm not knocking the band. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see. Usually if people really want to do something, and they have the time and money to do it, they would do it. Remember, it takes them 3-6 weeks of studio time to record an album based on what they said about Lightning Bolt being done in two 3 week sessions. We all spend most of our life working when we don't want to. If we had the time and money we wouldn't work so much and do stuff we really wanted to do. It sounds like Pearl Jam doesn't want to spend their whole life being Pearl Jam and have the time and money not to.
First 12 years: 7 albums
Ten - 1991
Vs. - 1993
Vitalogy - 1994
No Code - 1996
Yield - 1998
Binaural - 2000
Riot Act - 2002
Last 16 years: 4 albums
Pearl Jam - 2006
Backspacer - 2009
Lightning Bolt - 2013
New album - 2018 probably
the real fact that is being missed here: at least one band member hates touring (the travel portion of it). when you record an album, that's when the machine kicks into high gear. promotional videos need to be done, promo spots need to be scheduled, and then jeff's work with all the art and merch and whatnot; it's not just 'let's bang out a record and play a few dates'. there's a tonne of work that goes into it. at this point, that part is maybe less appealing to them.
if they wanted to, they could pull an rem and just put out a record and not tour. but that would be devastating for fans. and i'm sure they still love performing. you can't pull off 3 hour shows with a smile on your face and sweat in your eyes and not dig it.
You guy's can't be serious, right? New albums? TOTD 2? I'm not sure all of you get the gravity of this moment, get your shit together everyone. Way too soon to have any thoughts along any of these lines.
I know it's not done on purpose but comes across as insensitive and just plain ignorant. Do what you want, free country, each individuals as Ed would say, but just doesn't seem right, sorry, just my thoughts on this particular subject, again, to each their own
why is it ignorant and insensitive to think that pearl jam could write an album for chris as they did once before for andy?
Didn't Ed once say that the best music is the kind that makes you feel something? I'm sure they're all feeling a lot right now and a lot of good music good come out of it. Regardless of when, the question was going to get asked and I don't believe it was insensitive at all. It's not like he pulled them aside on the street and asked them personally. He asked the question to his peers in a fan club that were likely all thinking the same thing. While I don't see TOTD2 or any variation happening, I think it's a legitimate thought.
My grandpa died last year and I had to go back to work a few days later and sit in front of a computer staring at spreadsheets from 8-5. The band is in a unique situation where they don't have to punch a clock and can go at their own pace. I'm sure their writing process is a type of therapy to them and the work they do influences countless people in positive ways, many of which are on this forum. I'm sure they want to release new material as much as we want them to, but they're going to do it at their pace, which is more than beyond acceptable.
I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
The facts don't back you up though.
You would think that if people really wanted to make a record together, and they tour about 6 weeks on average a year and have the rest of the year to devote to their interests, would make a damn record. I'm not knocking the band. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see. Usually if people really want to do something, and they have the time and money to do it, they would do it. Remember, it takes them 3-6 weeks of studio time to record an album based on what they said about Lightning Bolt being done in two 3 week sessions. We all spend most of our life working when we don't want to. If we had the time and money we wouldn't work so much and do stuff we really wanted to do. It sounds like Pearl Jam doesn't want to spend their whole life being Pearl Jam and have the time and money not to.
First 12 years: 7 albums
Ten - 1991
Vs. - 1993
Vitalogy - 1994
No Code - 1996
Yield - 1998
Binaural - 2000
Riot Act - 2002
Last 16 years: 4 albums
Pearl Jam - 2006
Backspacer - 2009
Lightning Bolt - 2013
New album - 2018 probably
the real fact that is being missed here: at least one band member hates touring (the travel portion of it). when you record an album, that's when the machine kicks into high gear. promotional videos need to be done, promo spots need to be scheduled, and then jeff's work with all the art and merch and whatnot; it's not just 'let's bang out a record and play a few dates'. there's a tonne of work that goes into it. at this point, that part is maybe less appealing to them.
if they wanted to, they could pull an rem and just put out a record and not tour. but that would be devastating for fans. and i'm sure they still love performing. you can't pull off 3 hour shows with a smile on your face and sweat in your eyes and not dig it.
Nothing you said is inconsistent with my point, but additional reasons that support my point. The point being they don't have a passion to join together as Pearl Jam to make a record.
They still like music and do solo stuff, but I am referring to Pearl Jam.
The vast majority of us have less than ten work days to grieve a child, mother, or father before heading back to work so it boggles my mind that some of you think it is insensitive or ignorant to ask musicians to come together and create songs to mourn a fellow musician.
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No tribute albums please.
Pearl Jam make a record please. No covers.
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
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2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
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2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
2003 - Champaign, IL
2006 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2007 - Chicago, IL Lollapalooza
2009 - Chicago, IL 1 & 2
2010 - St. Louis, MO
2011 - East Troy, WI 1 & 2 (PJ20 Destination Weekend)
2012 - Atlanta, GA, Missoula, MT
2013 - Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field), Dallas, TX, Oklahoma City, OK
2014 - St. Louis, MO, Tulsa, OK, Moline, IL (No Code, IL), Saint Paul, MN, Milwaukee, WI (Yield, WI)
2016 - Greenville, SC (Vs, SC), Raleigh, NC, Columbia, SC, Boston, MA (Fenway Park 1), Chicago, IL (Wrigley Field 1 & 2)
2022 - Nashville, TN, St. Louis, MO, Oklahoma City, OK, Phoenix, AZ, Las Vegas, NV
2023 - St. Paul, MN 2, Fort Worth, TX 2, Austin, TX 1, and Austin, TX 2
2014 - Soundgarden Tinley Park, IL (with Nine Inch Nails)
2017 - Soundgarden Dallas (cancelled) RIP Chris Cornell
2023 - Jerry Cantrell Milwaukee, WI
Chicago - 5/17/06, 8/21/08 (EV), 8/23/09, 7/19/13, 8/20/16
Champaign - 4/23/03
East Troy - 9/3/11, 9/4/11
Kansas City - 5/3/10
Las Vegas - 6/6/03
Memphis - 6/20/09 (EV)
Moline - 10/17/14
Oklahoma City - 11/16/13
All we all are doing is sitting around and thinking. We can't help in any way. We can't say goodbye/pay our respects at the funeral. We don't get that step in the process. So this is what we do. Sit around and think. That's not insensitive. It's not too soon. We're thinking. We're talking. The only thing we're allowed to do right now.
Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
There will never be a Temple of the Dog 2. It is not 1991 anymore where there are a bunch of anonymous musicians who can make music for the love of making music and to honor their friend.
Maybe it could happen but I highly doubt there could be something as organic and special as TOTD again. I don't see the hunger to make music from this group of people (except for Mike McCready). It is natural after 30+ years in the business and having families and young kids.
I couldn't possibly disagree with this statement more.
The facts don't back you up though.
You would think that if people really wanted to make a record together, and they tour about 6 weeks on average a year and have the rest of the year to devote to their interests, would make a damn record. I'm not knocking the band. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I see. Usually if people really want to do something, and they have the time and money to do it, they would do it. Remember, it takes them 3-6 weeks of studio time to record an album based on what they said about Lightning Bolt being done in two 3 week sessions. We all spend most of our life working when we don't want to. If we had the time and money we wouldn't work so much and do stuff we really wanted to do. It sounds like Pearl Jam doesn't want to spend their whole life being Pearl Jam and have the time and money not to.
First 12 years: 7 albums
Ten - 1991
Vs. - 1993
Vitalogy - 1994
No Code - 1996
Yield - 1998
Binaural - 2000
Riot Act - 2002
Last 16 years: 4 albums
Pearl Jam - 2006
Backspacer - 2009
Lightning Bolt - 2013
New album - 2018 probably
I know it's not done on purpose but comes across as insensitive and just plain ignorant. Do what you want, free country, each individuals as Ed would say, but just doesn't seem right, sorry, just my thoughts on this particular subject, again, to each their own
Oh Dude!
if they wanted to, they could pull an rem and just put out a record and not tour. but that would be devastating for fans. and i'm sure they still love performing. you can't pull off 3 hour shows with a smile on your face and sweat in your eyes and not dig it.
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My grandpa died last year and I had to go back to work a few days later and sit in front of a computer staring at spreadsheets from 8-5. The band is in a unique situation where they don't have to punch a clock and can go at their own pace. I'm sure their writing process is a type of therapy to them and the work they do influences countless people in positive ways, many of which are on this forum. I'm sure they want to release new material as much as we want them to, but they're going to do it at their pace, which is more than beyond acceptable.
They still like music and do solo stuff, but I am referring to Pearl Jam.