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Let's Talk Binaural and 2000 Tour

HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
edited April 2009 in The Porch
Listened to Binaural with the Bose headphones the other day and was amazed at how great it is. Haven't listened to it in a long time and I usually rank it at the bottom of the albums. Now I am not so sure. Matt's best drumming studio-wise.

Also, been listening to 2000 boots and think they sound the best by far. The tightest they were as a band. Matt needs to switch back to the Ayottes. I've been saying this for years; they sound so much better and clearer/warmer. His drumming on them sounds so much more intricate and complex.

Any thoughts?
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,490
    nathanastin wrote:
    Listened to Binaural with the Bose headphones the other day and was amazed at how great it is. Haven't listened to it in a long time and I usually rank it at the bottom of the albums. Now I am not so sure. Matt's best drumming studio-wise.

    Also, been listening to 2000 boots and think they sound the best by far. The tightest they were as a band. Matt needs to switch back to the Ayottes. I've been saying this for years; they sound so much better and clearer/warmer. His drumming on them sounds so much more intricate and complex.

    Any thoughts?

    +99

    Been saying this myself too. Good to see someone else thinks the same. Binaural is one of my favourite albums that i own, and i wish they played it much much more. Was so stoked to hear God's Dice in 08 :D

    Matt's drum sound is just insaaaaaanely good on the 2000 tour, i love it so much. The Yamaha just doesn't have the cool thudiness and that Soundgarden sound.

    The NA bootlegs are quite nice too even though many consider them as 'flat'

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30BlueyXoyg - ahhhh!!!
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    Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    Binauaral tour was excellent. The US shows had kind of a somber intensity to them (for obvious reasons) but the band was very tight throughout, and Eddie was in fine vocal form for the tour.

    "Rival" and "Sleight of Hand" really grabbed me during the Cinncinnati show.
    Watching them perform these two songs live was like being smacked in the head with a hammer; all of a sudden these songs instantly became my favorite songs in the world.

    Pretty amazing how a live version of a song can completley break the clouds and give you an entirly new perspective on an album.

    I probably play the Cinncinnati bootleg the most of any show that I have on record. It is by no means the best show they've ever played, or the best show that I've been to...but for some reason it's the show that brings back the most vivid memories. It was a beautiful summer evening @ Riverbend w/ a full moon in all it's summer glory. I can still remember what the air smelled like, and what the people around me looked like. I can close my eyes and remember every moment of this show as if it was happening right now. It was like my 10th time seeing the band...but for some reason it felt like the first time.

    This bootleg holds a very special place in my heart. I think it was for this exact purpose that the band decided to release these shows to the fans. The members of Pearl Jam are obviously huge music fans themselves, and it's obvious that this feeling was the intention behind the release all 72 of these shows. These CD's are like a digital time machine.
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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    I have all of the boots; the best quality cds and packaging too.
    SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
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    STT757STT757 Posts: 302
    For me the 2003 bootlegs have the best sound quality, although the 2000 tour was more more emotional.

    I had the pleasure of getting to see them both nights in Seattle, the first night the crowd was flat and they seemed bit annoyed at times "Boise was better than you" was a great quote. However night II ROCKED#!
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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    STT757 wrote:
    For me the 2003 bootlegs have the best sound quality, although the 2000 tour was more more emotional.

    I had the pleasure of getting to see them both nights in Seattle, the first night the crowd was flat and they seemed bit annoyed at times "Boise was better than you" was a great quote. However night II ROCKED#!
    I was at Boise and we were better
    SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
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    U R A Crazy BreedU R A Crazy Breed Posts: 8,370
    welcome to the wonderful world of Binaural lovers..my name is Erik..i'll be your host :mrgreen:

    seriously though..Binaural is my 2nd fav PJ album only behind No Code!!those who still rate it at the bottom just haven't "found" it yet!

    and as far as the 2000 boots go 6/16/00 - Katowice, Poland is the best IMO..if only Ed didn't fuck up Release!!
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    HermanBloomHermanBloom Posts: 1,764
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    welcome to the wonderful world of Binaural lovers..my name is Erik..i'll be your host :mrgreen:

    seriously though..Binaural is my 2nd fav PJ album only behind No Code!!those who still rate it at the bottom just haven't "found" it yet!

    and as far as the 2000 boots go 6/16/00 - Katowice, Poland is the best IMO..if only Ed didn't fuck up Release!!
    Katowic is good: I also like Berlin, Verona, Milan
    SLC 11/2/95, Park City 6/21/98, Boise 11/3/00, Seattle 12/9/02, Vancouver 5/30/03, Gorge 9/1/05, Vancouver 9/2/05, Gorge 7/22/06, Gorge 7/23/06, Camden I 6/19/08, MSG I 6/24/08, MSG II 6/25/08, Hartford 6/27/08, Mansfield II 6/30/08; Eddie Albany 6/8/09, 6/9/09; Philly 10/30/09, 10/31/09; Boston 5/17/10
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    lukin14lukin14 Posts: 287
    Binaural tour was my first tour.
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    arqarq Posts: 7,940
    The 2000 tour it always sounded to me like a "farewell" tour a lot shows were really emotional and the band sounded like they were having a lot of fun.
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,321
    nathanastin wrote:
    STT757 wrote:
    For me the 2003 bootlegs have the best sound quality, although the 2000 tour was more more emotional.

    I had the pleasure of getting to see them both nights in Seattle, the first night the crowd was flat and they seemed bit annoyed at times "Boise was better than you" was a great quote. However night II ROCKED#!
    I was at Boise and we were better

    I was at vancouver 2000 and the last 4 shows of the tour (portland, boise, and the two seattle shows).

    I think the Boise show was the best show I saw on that tour.. even better than seattle II. Its my 2nd favorite show out of all the pj shows I've ever seen (with gorge 05 as my #1).

    Boise was pretty underrated I think. The crowd was insane! Seattle II felt to me like they were trying to duplicate Boise :)
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    surforiasurforia SoCal Posts: 346
    Great tour... I caught 'em at Chicago at Allstate, which was sick, as well as in Indy... My biggest problem with Binaural is Breakherfall... it just starts out so blah... One of my least favorite PJ songs ever...
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    PJ73PJ73 Posts: 68
    I went to the first three U.S. shows on this tour, right after Rosklide. I remember thinking the band was somber at Va. Beach and that it wasn't until the third show in Greensboro where they seemed to feel comfortable on stage. It felt to me, and I only base this on several bootlegs and TB2000 that they continued to readjust the whole tour, getting looser each show.

    To be honest, I never liked Binaural all that much, and its only recently that I'm starting to appreciate it. That album needed to percolate with me for a while, I guess. I really like Thin Air and Parting Ways and I think Rival has a very different sound to it, which I like.
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,490
    U R A Crazy Breed wrote:
    welcome to the wonderful world of Binaural lovers..my name is Erik..i'll be your host :mrgreen:

    seriously though..Binaural is my 2nd fav PJ album only behind No Code!!those who still rate it at the bottom just haven't "found" it yet!

    and as far as the 2000 boots go 6/16/00 - Katowice, Poland is the best IMO..if only Ed didn't fuck up Release!!

    Can i co-host please?
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    a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,865
    gotta love evacuation! seen the song like 3 times, 2 of which he messed up. Only full version i've seen was at my 1st show saratoga, which was amazing.

    can't wait for the next tour!!!
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    PolPol Posts: 60
    Brilliant, brilliant album! I instantly loved it but I understand those who didn't/don't. I can appreciate that it can be (for some people) an album that requires a few visits, something I would refer to as a "grower".

    As for the 2000 tour, definitely the tightest they have been as a band and the happiest they hav looked as a band. Sadly I had not discovered PJ back then, but a couple of years later I found them and they changed my life forever. I don't care if that sounds cliche', because they fucking did!
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    12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    nathanastin wrote:

    Also, been listening to 2000 boots and think they sound the best by far. The tightest they were as a band. Matt needs to switch back to the Ayottes. I've been saying this for years; they sound so much better and clearer/warmer. His drumming on them sounds so much more intricate and complex.

    Any thoughts?

    QFT

    The Ayotte's sounded amazing, particularely the snare. That snare is one of the best sounding snares Ive ever heard, like a damn bomb dropping. His new snare is also a keplinger, but it HAS to be a different one, because it just sucks.

    On the MTV Ten special, when they show stone talking on the couch I noticed his old Ayotte kit in the background all mic'd and set up. Maybe he DID switch back....i hope so, but doubt it.
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    LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I love Binaural, but I'll take '03 and '06 tour over '00 anyday.. a lot more energy from Ed than in 2000. At least judging from the boots I have heard.
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    iamicaiamica Chicago Posts: 2,628
    I saw Pearl Jam in Chicago for the first time during the 2000 tour, and I still rank that show in my top 5 concerts of all time. It was absolutely amazing.
    And Binaural is a completely brilliant, underrated album.
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    BC196886BC196886 Posts: 33
    I still have not heard ANY Binaural live!!! I'm craving some "Light Years," "Grievance," "Insignificance," and "Of the Girl."
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    mca47mca47 Posts: 13,258
    One of, if not my favorite album. Tour was pretty good too.
    The only show I went to was the Ice Bowl....
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    ChrisileinChrisilein Vienna/Austria Posts: 3,881
    I would always prefer the boots of 2003, the sound quality is much better than in 2000. Listening to the boots of 2003 always gives me the creeps! A few weeks ago I only had the retail boots, no I have 25 of them! Thank's to ebay! Yesterday I listened to Mexico City III and it was really great!!! :o

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    StinkfootStinkfoot Posts: 546
    Gonzo1977 wrote:

    Pretty amazing how a live version of a song can completley break the clouds and give you an entirly new perspective on an album.

    Thats so true! When I saw Insignificance live I was amazed by how...powerful...it was hearing it in person.
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    et21et21 Posts: 112
    Man do I LOOOOOOVVVVVVVVEEEEE the Binaural tours.

    So damn chill. Katowice is my favorite bootleg ever. It's the first I listened to begining to end before I ever went to a concert and even though I've heard many since, it still is my favorite. It is just amazing, and I'm Polish, too!
    I surfaced and all of my being was enlightened.
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    Mike GossardMike Gossard Posts: 344
    The 2000 tour was awseome. I saw them in Phoenix on Oct. 21st and Vegas on the 22nd where they played Crown of Thorns for the first time ever. Then I flew to Seattle to see the last two shows of the tour. it was kind of sad though there was this looming feeling that the band was going to break up. Luckily they didnt'.

    I like the Europe bootlegs better but I do like some of the North america shows too. Best show I saw of those 4 was the last night of the tour, seemed like they played forever. It was amazing.
    Let's see those 2013 dates in the southern states.
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    LukinFanLukinFan Florida Posts: 29,013
    DAMN good tour- love these boots!!!!
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    Drop The Leash 10Drop The Leash 10 Posts: 7,011
    damn good album. was lucky enough to hear parting ways in 04
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,490
    Drop The Leash 10 wrote:
    damn good album. was lucky enough to hear parting ways in 04

    You

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    Evacuation RulesEvacuation Rules Posts: 2,162
    The 2000 boots are the most exciting and by far the best sounding, IMO. The drums sound great and the guitars are ballsy...something that was lost after that.
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