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***Which sucks more*** "Rival" or "Help Help"?

guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
edited February 2008 in The Porch
And don't give me that "dude... Rival rocks" crap, cause i aint buyin it. ;)

Just curious on what others think of these two songs.
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    restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,946
    help help definitely sucks more than rival, because rival rocks. DUDE!

    but yeah i dont like help help really
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    NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    rival rocks dude

    help help aint bad neither
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    Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,747
    guertin32 wrote:
    And don't give me that "dude... Rival rocks" crap, cause i aint buyin it. ;)

    Just curious on what others think of these two songs.

    I think Rival does rock actually. good riff, good breakdown. not the best lyrics but it doesn't deserve to mentioned with the pile of crap that is Help Help.
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    GmoneyGmoney Posts: 1,618
    rival rocks
    Further back and forth a wave will break on me, today...
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    DiRtYyELLoWoCeAnDiRtYyELLoWoCeAn Medford, Ma Posts: 1,605
    Help Help is a shit show caught in a shit hurricane!
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    MTL 9/15/05
    HRTFD 5/13/06
    BOS 5/24/06, 5/25/06
    VEGAS 7/6/06
    CHI 8/5/07
    NJ 6/19/08
    NYC 6/25/08
    HRTFD 6/27/08
    MANSFLD 6/28/08, 6/30/08
    E.V. BOS 8/1/08
    CHI 8/23/09, 8/24/09
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    HRTFD 10/25/13
    BOS 8/5/16, 8/7/16
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    FlaggFlagg Posts: 5,856
    Help Help = Crap Crap
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    BOS-9/28/04,9/29/04,6/28/08,6/30/08, 9/5/16, 9/7/16, 9/2/18
    MTL-9/15/05, OTT-9/16/05
    PHL-5/27/06,5/28/06,10/30/09,10/31/09
    CHI-8/2/07,8/5/07,8/23/09,8/24/09
    HTFD-6/27/08
    ATX-10/4/09, 10/12/14
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    Bridge School-10/23/2010,10/24/2010
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Help Help. Rival does suck thoough
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    ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,755
    Dude...Rival rocks.

    GREAT guitar riff
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    gleemonexgleemonex Posts: 848
    Rival >>>>>>>> Help Help
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    DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    dude! cmon now! rival is fucking awesome. and help, help is really sweet too!
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    jordn6971jordn6971 Posts: 675
    I just listened to Binaural like three times through. I love Rival.
    "There was a band playing in my head, and I felt like getting high"
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    joseppijoseppi Posts: 58
    Rival is one of my favourites from Binaural. Help Help I like too, just not as much as Rival. So to answer your question, Help Help sucks more.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
    at this moment everyone on here would be smiling ear to ear if they played those two at your next show talk to me after you've seen those to live ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    DiRtyFranK38DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    josevolution wrote:
    at this moment everyone on here would be smiling ear to ear if they played those two at your next show talk to me after you've seen those to live ....

    good call .. seeing either live would be one of the highlights of the night for sure. i love pj's artsy strange songs like help, help. jeff's songs are always great. and rival is excellent.
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    2008: MSG 1, Hartford, Mansfield 2, Ed Solo NYC 1
    2009: London (O2), Philly 1, 2, 3, & 4
    2010: Hartford, Boston, MSG 1 & 2
    2011: Ed Solo Hartford
    2012: Philly (MIA Fest)
    2013: Worcester 2, Brooklyn 1 & 2, Hartford
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    restlesssoulrestlesssoul Posts: 6,946
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    good call .. seeing either live would be one of the highlights of the night for sure. i love pj's artsy strange songs like help, help. jeff's songs are always great. and rival is excellent.


    rival 18 times
    help help 9 times



    ive never seen one
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
    DiRtyFranK38 wrote:
    good call .. seeing either live would be one of the highlights of the night for sure. i love pj's artsy strange songs like help, help. jeff's songs are always great. and rival is excellent.


    exactly i tell ya all these folks that say such & such suck have never seen those songs played live they would be the 1st to say damm that was great & what was the name of that song ? cluless i tell ya ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
    Flagg wrote:
    Help Help = Crap Crap

    If this were Yahoo Answers, this would be the best.
    http://www.myspace.com/cravingstrangemusic <- my band
    MSG - NYC - 9-10-1998
    MSG - NYC - 9-11-1998 (BEST FKING SHOW!)
    Jones Beach - 8-25-2000
    Nassau Coliseum - 4-30-2003
    Irving Plaza - 5-5-06 (another great show)
    New Jersey - 6-1-06
    MSG - NYC - 6.24.08
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    EquallyWorthlessEquallyWorthless Posts: 3,993
    neither


    oh sorry... you
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    a5pja5pj Hershey PA Posts: 3,865
    ill say help help is better just cuz ive seen it live and it's AMAZING, still have to see rival live though.
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    guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
    josevolution wrote:
    at this moment everyone on here would be smiling ear to ear if they played those two at your next show talk to me after you've seen those to live ....

    yeh, I would have to go pee for 2 songs then... Honestly... Cmon! Be for real.. You cant tell me that you crank up Help Help in the shower and sing to it. Geezzz....

    I know... Rival rocks... I know...
    http://www.myspace.com/cravingstrangemusic <- my band
    MSG - NYC - 9-10-1998
    MSG - NYC - 9-11-1998 (BEST FKING SHOW!)
    Jones Beach - 8-25-2000
    Nassau Coliseum - 4-30-2003
    Irving Plaza - 5-5-06 (another great show)
    New Jersey - 6-1-06
    MSG - NYC - 6.24.08
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
    guertin32 wrote:
    yeh, I would have to go pee for 2 songs then... Honestly... Cmon! Be for real.. You cant tell me that you crank up Help Help in the shower and sing to it. Geezzz....

    I know... Rival rocks... I know...

    who said anything about a shower ? so have you seen these two live & at what show i'm talking live now as you being present let me know when you do ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,320
    guertin32 wrote:
    yeh, I would have to go pee for 2 songs then... Honestly... Cmon! Be for real.. You cant tell me that you crank up Help Help in the shower and sing to it. Geezzz....

    I know... Rival rocks... I know...


    just looking at your shows you have attended i answered my ? you haven't ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    yosi1yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Both songs rock. But to answer your question, I guess Rival sucks more only cause Help Help rocks harder.
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    bharQbharQ Posts: 1,201
    both 2 of my favs

    not for pj's mainstream sheep people i guess
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    PureandEasyPureandEasy Posts: 5,779
    RIVAL IS AWESOME

    I think that answers your question
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    smile05smile05 Posts: 600
    never minded Rival
    Help Help is worse than having piles
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    dannydanny Posts: 2,270
    guertin32 wrote:
    And don't give me that "dude... Rival rocks" crap, cause i aint buyin it. ;)

    Just curious on what others think of these two songs.

    rival is awful
    danny d
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    No_ones_rivalNo_ones_rival Posts: 385
    I really enjoy help help... Rival, not so much. Dunno why, just my opinion
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    guertin32guertin32 Posts: 205
    Im not looking to bash anyones favorite song, I just wanted to know if anyone thought like me about those two songs. For me, I love all Pearl Jam songs, with the exception of those 2 songs. I just think that some of the "if pearl jam shit in a tin can id listen to it" fans are going a tad over board. If Pearl Jam were a new band today, and this was on their first CD, they would flop.

    Period.

    But, I digress...

    :) - hey, it could be worse. I could have started another "I ran into Boom" thread...
    http://www.myspace.com/cravingstrangemusic <- my band
    MSG - NYC - 9-10-1998
    MSG - NYC - 9-11-1998 (BEST FKING SHOW!)
    Jones Beach - 8-25-2000
    Nassau Coliseum - 4-30-2003
    Irving Plaza - 5-5-06 (another great show)
    New Jersey - 6-1-06
    MSG - NYC - 6.24.08
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    rival.rival. Chicago Posts: 7,776
    rival rocks.

    not a fan of help help... although when they played it during msg2 2003, i was so f'ed up, i was so zoned into it, and it rocked.

    other than that experience... it sucks.
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