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Stop with the anti-Trump crusade, it's boring!

docsredarmy99docsredarmy99 Posts: 34
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Lost the crowd for about a half hour in Padova after EV's latest outburst although got it back to complete an outstanding show.

It needs to stop, it's boring & they need to show some respect to those who don't share their views.

Anyway, onwards to Rome we go.....
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    You know the political stance of this band and that they have always been vocal about it.  

    It's not going to stop.  
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  • Stickman24Stickman24 Posts: 210
    edited June 2018
    Yeah I’d prefer a little less political talk   Instead of attacking why not try and find some common ground.  It might be um productive.  Rather than more walls. 


    Look by by no means am I looking to get into a political debate.   I’ve loved this band and it’s members since I was 12 I’m 38 today. Weather I agree or disagree with thier personal. views it won’t affect how I view them.   I agree some respect for the other side should be shown. 
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  • RP112579RP112579 Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,382
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,359
    They lost the crowd for a half hour? I call bullshit.
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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,849
    I agree. It’s annoying. And I’m not coming from a conservative standpoint. I’m just coming from the view of I’m at a concert and splitting the room fir any amount of time isn’t a good idea. 
  • curmudgeonesscurmudgeoness Brigadoon, foodie capital Posts: 4,011
    docsredarmy99 said:
    Lost the crowd for about a half hour in Padova after EV's latest outburst although got it back to complete an outstanding show.

    It needs to stop, it's boring & they need to show some respect to those who don't share their views.

    Anyway, onwards to Rome we go.....

    No it doesn't, no, it isn't, and no, they don't.
    This is who they are and who they always have been and will be. They are free to speak their minds, just like the rest of us. And, like it or not, the majority of Americans are appalled by what is happening at the southern border and feel compelled to take a stand. You are entitled to your own opinions, but nobody is obligated to be quiet because they disagree with you or with our government's policies.
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  • cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    edited June 2018
    I dont like politics in general.  I avoid talking about politics as much as i can. Its a waste of breath.  Everyone thinks that their side is the correct side and everyone does the same petty, immature stuff that they accuse the other side of doing.  It’s hilarious really. 

    It’s their mic tho.  They can say whatever they want.  It’s definitely not a new thing at a PJ show. I don’t go to concerts anymore in general so it doesnt bother me one way or the other. :lol:
    Post edited by cp3iverson on
  • iwasatpj20iwasatpj20 Rockford, IL Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2018
    cp3iverson said:
    I dont like politics in general.  I avoid talking about politics as much as i can. Its a waste of breath.  Everyone thinks that their side is the correct side and everyone does the same stuff that they accuse the other side of doing.  It’s hilarious really. 

    It’s their mic tho.  They can say whatever they want. I don’t go to concerts anymore so it doesnt bother me one way or the other. :lol:
    I understand how you feel about politics at the shows
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  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896

    Regardless of what side you’re on, the fact is these speeches will likely not be met with 100% cheers at the US shows. I honestly think the reactions could make the Nassau Bushleaguer thing look tame.

    And at the Nassau show, Eddie was not exactly pleased with getting booed, and they never played that venue ever again. So this could be very interesting.

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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,359
    This notion that Pearl Jam, who have always talked about politics, should now stop talking about politics in order to provide a safe space for those who don't want to hear it is laughable.

    You know what you are getting. That hasn't changed.
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  • Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,325
    Please DONT STOP!  Everyone needs to speak out against the ass clown Trump. PJ has never kept quiet about political stuff and probably never will. 
  • Stickman24Stickman24 Posts: 210
    cp3iverson said:
    I dont like politics in general.  I avoid talking about politics as much as i can. Its a waste of breath.  Everyone thinks that their side is the correct side and everyone does the same petty, immature stuff that they accuse the other side of doing.  It’s hilarious really
    Agreed! 
  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    deadendp said:
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
    But we can be asked, or told, not to post about it here. No irony there.
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,490
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,848
    StuffnJunk said:
    deadendp said:
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
    But we can be asked, or told, not to post about it here. No irony there.
    They get locked because of how people post, not the fact that they post about political discussion. 
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,848
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited June 2018
    oftenreading said:
    StuffnJunk said:
    deadendp said:
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
    But we can be asked, or told, not to post about it here. No irony there.
    They get locked because of how people post, not the fact that they post about political discussion. 
    +1

    Thank you, Often. :smile:
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    Absolutely! 
    Post edited by deadendp on
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  • Daron OshayDaron Oshay Middletown, NJ Posts: 2,561
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    Same
  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    oftenreading said:
    StuffnJunk said:
    deadendp said:
    This is a subject brought up every single tour.

    Every single tour, a thread about it is locked.  

    Asking PJ to discontinue speaking about politics is like asking Trump to stop tweeting.  Neither one is ever going to happen.  Believe me, I would love it if we were DT tweet-free.  
    But we can be asked, or told, not to post about it here. No irony there.
    They get locked because of how people post, not the fact that they post about political discussio
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • StuffnJunkStuffnJunk Posts: 896
    Yes cursing and name calling is reserved for Eddie
    "I'll tell you what: If all I had was Pearl Jam, and I didn't have another band in the world, I would not be worried. Because in there is the essence of making great music. You don't have to use it all at once, but it's there." - Neil Young
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
  • PJForceofNaturePJForceofNature Posts: 3,087
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    I hope they do too. I think they are using their platform wisely. If I was going to any of the shows, I would be cheering loudly too.
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  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,490
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
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  • crookedcrosscrookedcross Right Near Da Beach, Boiii Posts: 1,514
    edited June 2018
    cp3iverson said:
    I dont like politics in general.  I avoid talking about politics as much as i can. Its a waste of breath.  Everyone thinks that their side is the correct side and everyone does the same petty, immature stuff that they accuse the other side of doing.  It’s hilarious really. 

    It’s their mic tho.  They can say whatever they want.  It’s definitely not a new thing at a PJ show. I don’t go to concerts anymore in general so it doesnt bother me one way or the other. :lol:
    Same as you, I can't stand talking politics but when I come across them, I thoroughly enjoy watching political debates on social media including on here, and especially on the Official PJ 10C members FB page. Most times I see people (from all sides) say shit there that makes me feel better about what type of person I am and how my brain is wired. 
    Post edited by crookedcross on
  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,848
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

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  • buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    oftenreading said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    buck502000 said:
    on2legs said:
    Blackout weaves its way...

    I remember when you sang
    That song about today
    Now it's tomorrow and
    Everything has changed
    Not really 
    Trump... another guy born on third who thinks he hit a triple. 
    Not really 

    Do you dispute that he was born to a wealthy family and benefited greatly from that?

    Trump is the beneficiary of several trust funds set up by his father beginning in 1949; Trump’s paternal grandmother also set up a trust fund for him in 1949.[78] In 1976, Fred Trump set up trust funds of $1 million for each of his five children and three grandchildren; Donald Trump received annual payments from his trust fund, for example $90,000 in 1980 and $214,605 in 1981.[78] By 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's fortune was $35 million each.[79][78] Upon Fred Trump’s death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.[78][80][81]

    Trump said that he began his career with "a small loan of one million dollars" from his father, but did not acknowledge his father's role in backing a $70 million loan during the construction of the Grand Hyatt hotel at the same time.[78][82] He appeared on the initial Forbes 400 list of richest Americans in 1982 with an estimated $200 million fortune shared with his father.[83] An ex-Forbes reporter said in 2018 that Trump had inflated his actual wealth in order to be included on the list.


    From wikipedia

    Not really 
  • HobbesHobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,433
    oftenreading said:
    And I hope the band continues to speak out against the Trump administration. I’ll cheer loudly at the shows I’m attending. 
    Moi aussi.
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