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Train Repair or...?
brianlux
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I left these forums just after the elections due to massive frustration regarding the elections. I gave myself a lot of time to think about what is and isn't worth the time and effort, what should and shouldn't be said. I sometimes blew it that way myself and I apologize for that. I came back and pretty much have avoided AMT but then I then post one innocuous thread sincerely questioning how little I really understand what is happening on the current events front in this world and questioned how much anyone really knows. It stayed friendly, the responses were mostly good ones... and then it got locked.
But that it got locked is not my beef. I don't know or care why it got locked. What I can only hope for is that this forum undergoes some repair. This used to be such a great place to discuss current events. Can we make it good again? Or should it just shut down? I'm a regular on another music site that strictly enforces a "no politics" regulation. Is that the way to go? I really don't know.
Thanks for listening. I'm going back to the music forums.
But that it got locked is not my beef. I don't know or care why it got locked. What I can only hope for is that this forum undergoes some repair. This used to be such a great place to discuss current events. Can we make it good again? Or should it just shut down? I'm a regular on another music site that strictly enforces a "no politics" regulation. Is that the way to go? I really don't know.
Thanks for listening. I'm going back to the music forums.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.
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On a much more broad spectrum?
You have President Trump as your leader.
How does this not spill into everyday conversation globally?
A lot of threads that I view trying to get alternative perspectives from my own quickly devolve into junior high pissiness.
But, it is the internet......
Very mature.
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Brian makes good points in this thread and the one that was closed.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
He trolled me when I started a thread introducing myself & saying hi. LOL.
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Some of us jump in now and then, some may understand a shitload and speak out, some may not.
Repair or shut it down? Why? To whose benefit?
I like the discourse when it's productive and constructive. When it's not, I step away for a time. I don't demand it be closed because I'm irritated with some views or how they're stated.
I guess...be the change you want to see. That's all you (I, anyway) can do.
It really CAN be that simple.
Perhaps take up the thread being closed with the mods...?
i have said it before but amt was always better before the boards became pay to post. you had so many more people posting here. people from all over the world were on here. people way more worldly than i am. i learned so much from other people when they were posting news articles from different papers from other countries. it was not all fox news links and cnn links and blog posts. if we were debating islam, a muslim from the middle east would contribute to the conversation. if we were talking about communism in china, people residing in communist china would contribute. if we were debating israel/palestine, israelis and palestinians would contribute. it was so much better to get perspective from people in other countries. the train lost that years ago when you had to pay to post.
i think the way to make it better is to draw more posters. more posters from different parts of the world. we can all learn something from someone who lives somewhere else. unfortunately i don't see that happening. a lot of people have moved to the facebook groups, and most of the old posters here either got banned or never renewed. unfortunately, just talking to random people at shows and preparties and stuff, people say they won't come on amt because they think it is a cesspool. they think people are mean to each other on here and it is bad for the fanbase. some are afraid of being attacked or some feel intimidated. i met a longtime board member at pj20. he saw my nametag and immediately knew me as "that shit stirrer on amt." that was almost 6 years ago, and that reputation preceded me.
so in short, i think we need to appeal to a broader cross section of fans, and i think we need to have more people from outside the US posting. and we need to get rid of trolls. my three part plan, haha...
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I agree gimme
Americans need to have more people from outside the US posting.
"But they are a political band..." so on and so forth and for that reason alone you wont escape politics and a place like this wont get shut down. And all is dandy if your beliefs coincide with all of the bands
But, lets have fun around here while its still here. Music is more fun to discuss anyways.
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Actually I think the mods do a good job of keeping the band out of the discussion here on AMT. I once posted a thread titled "World Wide Suicide" because it seemed to me that phrase well described what was happening in the world and I made no reference to the song. But because it is a PJ song title the thread got shut down. Fair enough.
Also, I for one am in favor of a diversity of opinion as long as all opposing opinions are stated with some degree of knowledge about the subject and with some sense critical thinking.
And I'm very much liking gimme's idea of having a broader group of people posting here, not just in terms of opinion, but of locale. of world view, of perspective.
Other thoughts I had:
--Sticking top to the topic.
--Closing down a discussion when the same thing is said 100 times.
--Free coffee on Fridays.
So be it.
This place is open to THE WORLD. See it or not.
Really though - stick to the topic - part of the forum guidelines.
Close down a discussion by someone's arbitrary terms?
Hope all have fun playing by their own parameters.
I'm just having fun too and tossing my pitiful two or three cents in when I feel like it. Damned if it doesn't fit the mold.
Am I broad enough to be your fellow poster? Not sure I'm willing to be bandaged hand in hand with some here.
There are several threads I haven't ventured into.
Not all threads are going to go the way some people want them to go or hold people's interest. If someone doesn't like a thread or the way a thread has evolved... then they don't have to enter it and the won't be bothered by it.