That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
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That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
In some states that is the case, but in any Midwestern or midsouthern state, 3rd party voters own a share of Trump's victory.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Way, way wah.
Keep following your line and keep that status quo going. You must be prouD of yourself for voting 2-party -- The two most unpopular candidates in US history. And look what that got us. One thing about us third-party voters is that we actually aren't afraid ofmaking change, but continue to sit there and remain status quo. Fearful of the world, fearful of change. But boy do you know how to blame everybody else.
Stein and I don't regret it. The Stein and Bernie bro hating Hillbots can suck it and stop blaming us. You deserve Bannon.
Seems like the Stein and Bernie bros are blaming Hillary supporters though, which makes even less sense.
Yeah lol It's just idiotic.
And what have you done lately? Have you been in any protests? Or Are you still behind a safe computer and continue to blame people like me we're actually making change?
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
In some states that is the case, but in any Midwestern or midsouthern state, 3rd party voters own a share of Trump's victory.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
In some states that is the case, but in any Midwestern or midsouthern state, 3rd party voters own a share of Trump's victory.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Way, way wah.
Keep following your line and keep that status quo going. You must be prouD of yourself for voting 2-party -- The two most unpopular candidates in US history. And look what that got us. One thing about us third-party voters is that we actually aren't afraid ofmaking change, but continue to sit there and remain status quo. Fearful of the world, fearful of change. But boy do you know how to blame everybody else.
You didn't defend the alternative facts that you presented.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Way, way wah.
Keep following your line and keep that status quo going. You must be prouD of yourself for voting 2-party -- The two most unpopular candidates in US history. And look what that got us. One thing about us third-party voters is that we actually aren't afraid ofmaking change, but continue to sit there and remain status quo. Fearful of the world, fearful of change. But boy do you know how to blame everybody else.
Making change by sitting on sidelines?
One thing about third-party voters is that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of America's political system. America is Not a Multi-party Democracy.
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That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
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That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Way, way wah.
Keep following your line and keep that status quo going. You must be prouD of yourself for voting 2-party -- The two most unpopular candidates in US history. And look what that got us. One thing about us third-party voters is that we actually aren't afraid ofmaking change, but continue to sit there and remain status quo. Fearful of the world, fearful of change. But boy do you know how to blame everybody else.
Making change by sitting on sidelines?
One thing about third-party voters is that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of America's political system. America is Not a Multi-party Democracy.
You have no idea, but you like making assumptions don't you? And you're completely misinformed about third-party voters. Meanwhile we get that you are status quo all the way.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
Duh, I was referring to the pie chart that was posted?
So you stand by your suggestion that 71 million people voted 3rd party?
Gee, did I say that I did I say I was referring to a graphic that was posted? Did I say that was true?
You said the green was 3rd party voters. That would be 71 million 3rd party votes. You were asked if you math. You ignored the question in favor of your usual spiel. I asked if you stand by it or refute it and your response, I don't understand.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
The entire system is set up so that voters choose one of the two major party candidates to be president. Voting third party essentially says: “I don’t care who becomes president, and I’m going to let other voters decide for me.”
Third party voters always talk about how they’re tired of choosing between the “lesser of two evils”—well, in American democracy, that’s what voting is. America is not a Multi-party Democracy, and your third party candidate is never going to win. Grown-ups have to make hard choices and accept less-than-thrilling results every single day in life, and democracy is no different.
Amazing how your logic went from "every vote counts and I voted my conscience" to " I bear absolutely zero responsibility" in less than 3 sentences. What kind of mental gymnastics is that?
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Duh, I was referring to the pie chart that was posted?
So you stand by your suggestion that 71 million people voted 3rd party?
Gee, did I say that I did I say I was referring to a graphic that was posted? Did I say that was true?
You said the green was 3rd party voters. That would be 71 million 3rd party votes. You were asked if you math. You ignored the question in favor of your usual spiel. I asked if you stand by it or refute it and your response, I don't understand.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
The entire system is set up so that voters choose one of the two major party candidates to be president. Voting third party essentially says: “I don’t care who becomes president, and I’m going to let other voters decide for me.”
Third party voters always talk about how they’re tired of choosing between the “lesser of two evils”—well, in American democracy, that’s what voting is. America is not a Multi-party Democracy, and your third party candidate is never going to win. Grown-ups have to make hard choices and accept less-than-thrilling results every single day in life, and democracy is no different.
Amazing how your logic went from "every vote counts and I voted my conscience" to " I bear absolutely zero responsibility" in less than 3 sentences. What kind of mental gymnastics is that?
The mental gymnastics that are required to keep up with your bizarre premises and moving targets. Where did I say every vote counts? I implied that my vote didn't count. Hillary had my state locked up. I could have abstained, I could have voted for Trump, I could have voted for Hillary, I could have voted for Johnson, or I could have voted for Stein and the result in my state would have been exactly the same. I specifically recognized that my vote didn't matter, and was free to "send a message". I also specifically said that had I thought my vote would have mattered, I'd have thrown it to Hillary, who was definitely the lesser of two evils. So you can continue to play your game and make wild assertions about what I said (even when I didn't say it), but your premise that third party voters ushered Trump into office is false. Quit taking plays from Kellyanne's alternative facts book.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
That majority there in the green? That's third party voting. But everybody blames third-party voters, meanwhile this election had the best number of third-party voters in history. Because the other two idiots with the least popular candidates in history.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
do you even math? Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
Disagree. Trump voters, and those who didn't vote are responsible for Trump's win. You said yourself that Johnson made up a very small percentage.
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
How is that disagreeing? You had the luxury of throwing your vote away, so you did?
I didn't throw my vote away. Do you define throwing your vote away as not voting for the ultimate winner? If so, then all of the Hillary voters threw their votes away, too. I voted my conscience. If I thought a vote for Hillary would have resulted in a defeat for Trump I would have thrown my vote away to Hillary. I voted, and bear absolutely zero responsibility for Hillary's loss. So yes, I disagree with your false premise.
The entire system is set up so that voters choose one of the two major party candidates to be president. Voting third party essentially says: “I don’t care who becomes president, and I’m going to let other voters decide for me.”
Third party voters always talk about how they’re tired of choosing between the “lesser of two evils”—well, in American democracy, that’s what voting is. America is not a Multi-party Democracy, and your third party candidate is never going to win. Grown-ups have to make hard choices and accept less-than-thrilling results every single day in life, and democracy is no different.
Amazing how your logic went from "every vote counts and I voted my conscience" to " I bear absolutely zero responsibility" in less than 3 sentences. What kind of mental gymnastics is that?
The mental gymnastics that are required to keep up with your bizarre premises and moving targets. Where did I say every vote counts? I implied that my vote didn't count. Hillary had my state locked up. I could have abstained, I could have voted for Trump, I could have voted for Hillary, I could have voted for Johnson, or I could have voted for Stein and the result in my state would have been exactly the same. I specifically recognized that my vote didn't matter, and was free to "send a message". I also specifically said that had I thought my vote would have mattered, I'd have thrown it to Hillary, who was definitely the lesser of two evils. So you can continue to play your game and make wild assertions about what I said (even when I didn't say it), but your premise that third party voters ushered Trump into office is false. Quit taking plays from Kellyanne's alternative facts book.
I am not saying it is 100% 3rd party voters fault Trump got elected. But it certainly is not 0%. 3rd party voters try to get away with this "don't blame me, I didn't actually participate in the election that was happening" crap, and I'm not buying it.
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No vote no right to complain
Yes, i voted.
Yet, continue to blame us because we don't fall into your neat 2-party, status quo category.
Gary Johnson & Jill Stein combined got less than 5% of the vote. Pretty sure that qualifies as the least popular candidates in history.
And yes, 3rd party voters are partly to blame for this debacle. It's like you saved up your money, bought a flight and reserved a weekend in Vegas to bet on the Superbowl. And when you got there, you decided you didn't like the Patriots or the Falcons and decided to bet on Manchester United to win.
Sorry, third party voters don't get off that easy. They're just as culpable for the situation we find ourselves in. Probably more so, because most 3rd party supporters I meet are relatively informed voters. It's like they knew better, but decided to watch the world burn anyways.
It's just idiotic.
And 54 is 45 more than what is the answer Marta?
I live in a solid Red state, and there was no question that Hillary was taking our state. Because of that I voted 3rd party. My vote mattered not one bit in the race between Trump and Clinton, which is why I felt comfortable doing so.
Keep following your line and keep that status quo going. You must be prouD of yourself for voting 2-party -- The two most unpopular candidates in US history. And look what that got us. One thing about us third-party voters is that we actually aren't afraid ofmaking change, but continue to sit there and remain status quo. Fearful of the world, fearful of change. But boy do you know how to blame everybody else.
And what have you done lately? Have you been in any protests? Or Are you still behind a safe computer and continue to blame people like me we're actually making change?
One thing about third-party voters is that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of America's political system. America is Not a Multi-party Democracy.
You were asked if you math.
You ignored the question in favor of your usual spiel.
I asked if you stand by it or refute it and your response, I don't understand.
Third party voters always talk about how they’re tired of choosing between the “lesser of two evils”—well, in American democracy, that’s what voting is. America is not a Multi-party Democracy, and your third party candidate is never going to win. Grown-ups have to make hard choices and accept less-than-thrilling results every single day in life, and democracy is no different.
Amazing how your logic went from "every vote counts and I voted my conscience" to " I bear absolutely zero responsibility" in less than 3 sentences. What kind of mental gymnastics is that?
But it certainly is not 0%. 3rd party voters try to get away with this "don't blame me, I didn't actually participate in the election that was happening" crap, and I'm not buying it.