Bummed out that you never got to use your bug-out bag?
It isn't over yet, I hear the left calling for civil war.
Seems justified to me. Shit has to hit the fan eventually in any society. Maybe this is the US's time (again).
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOL
There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.
Bummed out that you never got to use your bug-out bag?
It isn't over yet, I hear the left calling for civil war.
Seems justified to me. Shit has to hit the fan eventually in any society. Maybe this is the US's time (again).
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOL
There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.
I'm sorry, but this seems like fantasy land. I do not foresee the US getting into a military involved civil war. I could picture another nation attempting an attack on US interests overseas or on the mainland, but as far as American citizens picking up arms and attacking each other on a mass scale...we are a long way from that and it would be a fairly one sided victory if it were between polarized liberals and conservatives. The Vietnam War created some mass retaliation and unrest...but a civil war? I just cannot imagine a scenario where either side of the equation would get enough support for anything effective that would not get shut down fairly quickly. Not to mention that the current military climate seems to be backing Trump, not opposing.
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For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.
Not anymore, thankfully.
Ok, so that's what it was before? Endless and uncontrolled?
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
Maybe he's going off of the fact that you've got some viewpoints that match up with those of white supremacists?
Or maybe because I don't want endless and uncontrolled immigration sponsored by a POS like George Soros and funded by taxpayers to become the status quo.
Because that's what it is, endless and uncontrolled.
Not anymore, thankfully.
When was it endless and uncontrolled?
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11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
Bummed out that you never got to use your bug-out bag?
It isn't over yet, I hear the left calling for civil war.
Seems justified to me. Shit has to hit the fan eventually in any society. Maybe this is the US's time (again).
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOL
There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.
I'm sorry, but this seems like fantasy land. I do not foresee the US getting into a military involved civil war. I could picture another nation attempting an attack on US interests overseas or on the mainland, but as far as American citizens picking up arms and attacking each other on a mass scale...we are a long way from that and it would be a fairly one sided victory if it were between polarized liberals and conservatives. The Vietnam War created some mass retaliation and unrest...but a civil war? I just cannot imagine a scenario where either side of the equation would get enough support for anything effective that would not get shut down fairly quickly. Not to mention that the current military climate seems to be backing Trump, not opposing.
HAHA, yeah, people said some of the shit Trump is now actually doing sounded like fantasy land too. I'm sure lots of people thought such things sounded ridiculous where they live too... until it happened. Interesting how "it could never happen to us" some Americans are. I'm not saying it WILL happen, but it's hardly fantasy land. Look around the world man. Stuff like this is reality. Now that Trump is replacing actual military personnel with media moguls, the military may not be on his side for long, lol.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The question's been asked over time, and it hasn't been important. My answer is that the right needs a villain every election, so immigrants and Muslims were the bad guys who are destroying our country for this election cycle.
11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The previous two presidents have done more to stem immigration, legal and otherwise, than ever before. One by tanking the economy and the other with record deportations and 18 to 24 month screening processes. But for you, nothing has been done. How does your limited, small government handle the issue? Land owners on the border taking matters into their own hands? Locally formed militias doing it for free? You really are a contradiction of hypocrisies.
11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The previous two presidents have done more to stem immigration, legal and otherwise, than ever before. One by tanking the economy and the other with record deportations and 18 to 24 month screening processes. But for you, nothing has been done. How does your limited, small government handle the issue? Land owners on the border taking matters into their own hands? Locally formed militias doing it for free? You really are a contradiction of hypocrisies.
11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The previous two presidents have done more to stem immigration, legal and otherwise, than ever before. One by tanking the economy and the other with record deportations and 18 to 24 month screening processes. But for you, nothing has been done. How does your limited, small government handle the issue? Land owners on the border taking matters into their own hands? Locally formed militias doing it for free? You really are a contradiction of hypocrisies.
For a so called libertarian you're far from socially liberal. Tsk tsk.
And I voted Bernie and Jill respectively so don't blame me for oligarchy bullshit.
How would you know? You ever ask me what I believe about social issues?
You're a libertarian, no one cares
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Bummed out that you never got to use your bug-out bag?
It isn't over yet, I hear the left calling for civil war.
Seems justified to me. Shit has to hit the fan eventually in any society. Maybe this is the US's time (again).
not sure how civil war would occur in 2017 United States. it's not a clear "this area" vs "that area" anymore. just everyone attack washington? LOL
There are all kinds of possible scenarios, and one option could be determined by lines drawn on a map I suppose - could end up being south/mid vs north/west/east, who knows?? That would depend on the State politicians I guess. But I'm more picturing something like a military coup led by dissenting federal and state politicians...... are there enough politicians and military leaders in America who care enough about the US not becoming a fascist dictatorship, and who care little enough about their own cushy, relatively stable stations in life for such a thing to happen? I don't know. Far crazier shit has happened. If Trump and Bannon keep going the way they are and actually play out what they have apparently been fantasizing about for years now that they are in a position to actually go for it, I think this kind of thing might be inevitable. Are Trump and Bannon and friends crazy enough to do it? Hell yes. Let's just see if they have the will and energy.
I'm sorry, but this seems like fantasy land. I do not foresee the US getting into a military involved civil war. I could picture another nation attempting an attack on US interests overseas or on the mainland, but as far as American citizens picking up arms and attacking each other on a mass scale...we are a long way from that and it would be a fairly one sided victory if it were between polarized liberals and conservatives. The Vietnam War created some mass retaliation and unrest...but a civil war? I just cannot imagine a scenario where either side of the equation would get enough support for anything effective that would not get shut down fairly quickly. Not to mention that the current military climate seems to be backing Trump, not opposing.
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11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The previous two presidents have done more to stem immigration, legal and otherwise, than ever before. One by tanking the economy and the other with record deportations and 18 to 24 month screening processes. But for you, nothing has been done. How does your limited, small government handle the issue? Land owners on the border taking matters into their own hands? Locally formed militias doing it for free? You really are a contradiction of hypocrisies.
That is bs.
How so?
You can't deport a fraction of what was let in and call it a success and you can't really make a comparison with their predecessors because it wasn't the problem then that it is numbers wise. Neither one of them did anything to stem the flow, they didn't remove incentives and in fact during the Obama Administration they advertised, in Mexico, things like SNAP cards.
Landowners on the borders don't have private property rights in your world? Trespassing is ok?
One of the few things the federal government is supposed to do is protect the nation, allowing people to come in without a strict vetting process fails all of us. In turn the only ones facing the strict scrutiny are the ones that observe the law and come here legally, not really fair to them when others can just walk across without delay.
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Don't like how things are going even though your side authorized these programs?
Don't like that the new President is signing a lot of executive orders?
Sick of big government yet? You got what you wanted.
You finally care about the Constitution I see.
Go ahead, mock my overlord comment, it will remind you that you asked for it.
actually, it's YOURS. you, and the rest of the tens of millions that decide they don't want to vote. think they are above the process, then do nothing but complain about it.
all you have been blathering on about for years is how you wish the establishment to be destroyed. now, you see you may have got what you wished for, and you are shitting your pants. you weren't prepared for it. you didn't think it would actually happen. all this time, you thought you were smarter than everyone else. but now, everything is happening, and you can't handle it.
and someone, it's everyone else's fault.
Flight Risk out NOW!
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LOL, I don't vote because I refuse to validate this system. Keep kicking the can when nothing changes except the debt ceiling every time Congress plays one party againat the other. I see it this way, two wings, same bird. Not interested. You guys wanted big government, now you get to deal with it.
11-20 million people. It has been going on for a long time.
So you mean illegals. Why do you think people suddenly feel it's so important now, that it should be central to a president's policies?
I think it has been important to people, it is just finally someone is doing something about it.
The previous two presidents have done more to stem immigration, legal and otherwise, than ever before. One by tanking the economy and the other with record deportations and 18 to 24 month screening processes. But for you, nothing has been done. How does your limited, small government handle the issue? Land owners on the border taking matters into their own hands? Locally formed militias doing it for free? You really are a contradiction of hypocrisies.
That is bs.
How so?
You can't deport a fraction of what was let in and call it a success and you can't really make a comparison with their predecessors because it wasn't the problem then that it is numbers wise. Neither one of them did anything to stem the flow, they didn't remove incentives and in fact during the Obama Administration they advertised, in Mexico, things like SNAP cards.
Landowners on the borders don't have private property rights in your world? Trespassing is ok?
One of the few things the federal government is supposed to do is protect the nation, allowing people to come in without a strict vetting process fails all of us. In turn the only ones facing the strict scrutiny are the ones that observe the law and come here legally, not really fair to them when others can just walk across without delay.
An illegal wouldn't qualify for food stamps unless they stole someones identity. Not saying that doesn't happen, just clarifying because people are very misinformed about illegals receiving publis assistance.
LOL, I don't vote because I refuse to validate this system. Keep kicking the can when nothing changes except the debt ceiling every time Congress plays one party againat the other. I see it this way, two wings, same bird. Not interested. You guys wanted big government, now you get to deal with it.
LOL, I don't vote because I refuse to validate this system. Keep kicking the can when nothing changes except the debt ceiling every time Congress plays one party againat the other. I see it this way, two wings, same bird. Not interested. You guys wanted big government, now you get to deal with it.
You seem pretty interested to me.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
LOL, I don't vote because I refuse to validate this system. Keep kicking the can when nothing changes except the debt ceiling every time Congress plays one party againat the other. I see it this way, two wings, same bird. Not interested. You guys wanted big government, now you get to deal with it.
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http://clas.berkeley.edu/research/immigration-economic-benefits-immigration
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2014/12/02/How-Immigrants-Boost-US-Economic-Growth
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/29/opinion/campaign-stops/what-does-immigration-actually-cost-us.html?_r=0
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Now that Trump is replacing actual military personnel with media moguls, the military may not be on his side for long, lol.
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Landowners on the borders don't have private property rights in your world? Trespassing is ok?
One of the few things the federal government is supposed to do is protect the nation, allowing people to come in without a strict vetting process fails all of us. In turn the only ones facing the strict scrutiny are the ones that observe the law and come here legally, not really fair to them when others can just walk across without delay.
all you have been blathering on about for years is how you wish the establishment to be destroyed. now, you see you may have got what you wished for, and you are shitting your pants. you weren't prepared for it. you didn't think it would actually happen. all this time, you thought you were smarter than everyone else. but now, everything is happening, and you can't handle it.
and someone, it's everyone else's fault.
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This can't be said enough.
If you didn't vote then zip it.
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