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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,385

    ^^^
    Once people start talking sports analogies about serious matters is when I tune out. It dumbs everything down and makes a mockery of all involved in the discussion. From now on I don't give a rats ass what Comeys input is or will be. He has sports on the mind which makes him dumb.

    Apparently, you didn't watch when Rep. Conaway explained his TX Tech/UT analogy. So, by your logic, that makes Conaway dumb as well...

    He was using the analogy to illustrate a point.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Not for too much longer.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Can you be less cryptic please?
    Sure,

    How much worse can things get? We have Trump as The President.


    Sigh... Great thanks for the insight.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    There's very little to stop the nomination. The problem with the Democrates is they believe inherently they have a duty to provide advice and consent. I would be surprised if they try any parliamentary procedures unless they find a flaw with him.
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Can you be less cryptic please?
    Sure,

    How much worse can things get? We have Trump as The President.


    Ok, so you were you trolling when you were posting cryptic pro-Trump posts, or are you trolling now that you are posting cryptic anti-Trump posts?
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    37% and I suspect dropping.

    http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/03/trumps_approval_just_hit_a_new_low_gallup_poll_fin.html
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
    The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757
    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
    The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
    You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.

    Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631

    BS44325 said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    The cornerstone of that "dream agenda" -- repealing and replacing Obamacare -- currently has about a zero percent chance of passing the House as written. Part of the reason -- though not the whole reason -- is that President Trump has exhausted all of his scant political capital on stupid shit.
    The house bill as currently written will likely pass the house but might not pass the senate. Failure will have zero to do with Trump however and it will lay bare that the GOP was never serious about repeal and replace in the first place. There will never be 60 GOP votes for a clean repeal so for those who are calling for that are being disingenuous. If the bill passes though...well...that will demonstrate that the art of the deal is alive and well.
    You're right, but make no mistake: A strong president enjoying broad support can tend to strong-arm these things through. Trump is not that.

    Last I checked, the bill was still several votes short in the House. I guess they have until Thursday to shore them up.
    NBC is doing it's own whip count and I heard tonight there were 17 confirmed "nays" on the GOP side. 22 kills it.
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,629
    edited March 2017
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    His pick of Gorsuch is considered the only semi-successful thing he's done since taking office. And really, how hard was it? Someone handed him a list and he picked one.
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    slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,757

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    His pick of Gorsuch is considered the only thing semi-successful thing he's done since taking office. And really, how hard was it? Someone handed him a list and he picked one.
    McMaster was a pretty good pick for NSA, on the third try.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495

    "Can this country afford to have a prez under investigation by the FBI? Think of the trauma that would do to this country" -- Rubio, 11/1/16
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    BS44325 said:

    my2hands said:

    my2hands said:

    I see the major networks are covering the hearing today and aren't showing the bafoon's rally... people are done with this clown and nobody gives a shit what he has to say anymore

    Can't hide behind twitter like a coward forever, my little orange snowflake

    The problem is ... it's going to take a Republican Congress to actually remove him from office and that ain't happening.
    The longer he stays the better... he is a massive albatross for the current republican agenda and the 2018 and 2020 elections...

    My only concern is that he may be crazy enough to escalate the North Korean issue to distract and save his ass... especially if it's really bad... which it just might be
    Are people still pushing the albatross theory?
    Nixon had a 29% approval rating when he resigned... so that shows us the craziest of the crazy supporters will always hang on to the bitter end... Trump has been in a few weeks and is already at 40% on his best day... I don't know what planet you live on, but on planet earth he has already lost the moderate/independent/swing voter... kiss Wisconsin goodbye... kiss Michigan goodbye... kiss Pennsylvania goodbye... not to mention how toxic he is going to be in plenty of districts in 2018

    You're on the wrong side of history my friend... unfortunately you're folks couldn't prevent the spray tan dipshit from winning the nomination they were lined up to win the white house almost no matter who was on the ballot... Kasich would have beat Hillary and you're dream agenda would be going much smoother right now

    Your folks blew it. LOL
    Already at 40? He's always been at 40. He was at 40 through the bulk of the campaign when you guaranteed that he would be an albatross then. The dream agenda appears to be moving forward. While you have all been looking at the squirrel Gorsuch just took his first step towards confirmation. History is being written by those in the present.
    I was trying to be nice with 40, that's likely his absolute ceiling moving forward. SCOTUS was a done deal as soon as the spray tanned dipshit won in November and frankly has nothing to do with the president and how he has done so far. Not to mention Gorsuch already chastised Trump for his ridiculous comments about judges.

    History sure is being written, and you're on the wrong side of it

    It's funny watching someone as intelligent & rational as you contiued to try and defend or excuse away this disaster. You guys blew the golden opportunity LOL
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117


    "Can this country afford to have a prez under investigation by the FBI? Think of the trauma that would do to this country" -- Rubio, 11/1/16

    And now we can watch all the hypocrites do back flips to ignore/explain it all away

    LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP

    lol
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    my2hands said:


    "Can this country afford to have a prez under investigation by the FBI? Think of the trauma that would do to this country" -- Rubio, 11/1/16

    And now we can watch all the hypocrites do back flips to ignore/explain it all away

    LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP

    lol
    What did people expect? Anyone who's been paying attention since last summer, and hasn't let their political beliefs cloud their judgment should have seen this debacle coming from miles away.

    #MAGA
    #draintheswamp
    #lockherup

    LOL at anyone who bought into catchy slogans that have nothing to do with reality.

    This will probably go down as the biggest con in the history of the United States.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,609

    my2hands said:


    "Can this country afford to have a prez under investigation by the FBI? Think of the trauma that would do to this country" -- Rubio, 11/1/16

    And now we can watch all the hypocrites do back flips to ignore/explain it all away

    LOCK HER UP, LOCK HER UP

    lol
    What did people expect? Anyone who's been paying attention since last summer, and hasn't let their political beliefs cloud their judgment should have seen this debacle coming from miles away.

    #MAGA
    #draintheswamp
    #lockherup

    LOL at anyone who bought into catchy slogans that have nothing to do with reality.

    This will probably go down as the biggest con in the history of the United States.
    Read the declassified intelligence report and get a sense of where, "take our country back" came from. Fucking rubes. Or is it rubles?
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    Which one doesn't belong?

    Trump Airlines
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    Trump's Impeachment
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I see the overwhelming stupidity and unlikability of this President is starting to catch up with him.

    I watched a small bit of his I'm still popular in Kentucky campaign rally (why not bring the show to NYC or California?) on the internet C-SPAN feed last night. He's been relegated to C-SPAN3 which I guess is good. He was ad-libbing Trumpy-ness using the prompter as a guide.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?425711-1/president-trump-promises-pass-health-care-bill-form

    I particularly like the blatant racism of bringing up Colin Kaepernick...

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    Promises to pass health care bill "in some form"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Tiki said:

    I see the overwhelming stupidity and unlikability of this President is starting to catch up with him.

    I watched a small bit of his I'm still popular in Kentucky campaign rally (why not bring the show to NYC or California?) on the internet C-SPAN feed last night. He's been relegated to C-SPAN3 which I guess is good. He was ad-libbing Trumpy-ness using the prompter as a guide.

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?425711-1/president-trump-promises-pass-health-care-bill-form

    I particularly like the blatant racism of bringing up Colin Kaepernick...

    This just gives Godfather another reason to hate Colin. I mean, why can't these kids provide for themselves? They are just a bunch of freeloaders.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
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    at just about 40 minutes into "the 8500 friends in Clean Coal Country hoedown"...

    That's PURE racist bullshit, ad-libbed by someone with too much power with a fundamental lack of understanding of the first amendment and what it means. What a fucking embarrassment.

    When the OF instigates hatred and ridicule, in the southern part of the US, against "your San Francisco quarterback" one of the only Sports figures to take a stand on ANYTHING of consequence, in my mind it's the worst thing he possibly could do.

    It's dangerous, irresponsible, and reprehensible.

    right into "dying factories will come roaring back to life..."

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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Tiki said:

    in my mind it's the worst thing he possibly could do.

    and that's saying A LOT
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    "and we all bleed the same red blood..."

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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,495
    Tiki said:

    at just about 40 minutes into "the 8500 friends in Clean Coal Country hoedown"...

    That's just some racist bullshit, ad-libbed by someone with too much power with a fundamental lack of understanding of the first amendment and what it means. What a fucking embarrassment.

    When the OF instigates hatred and ridicule, in the southern part of the US, against "your San Francisco quarterback" one of the only Sports figures to take a stand on ANYTHING of consequence, in my mind it's the worst thing he possibly could do.

    It's dangerous, irresponsible, and reprehensible.

    right into "dying factories will come roaring back to life..."

    He couldn't be any more transparent.
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    IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    rgambs said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Can you be less cryptic please?
    Sure,

    How much worse can things get? We have Trump as The President.


    Ok, so you were you trolling when you were posting cryptic pro-Trump posts, or are you trolling now that you are posting cryptic anti-Trump posts?
    No. I was never trolling. Stop it.

    Trump is President. How much worse do you want things to get?

    Make a change, And the change that we make should be a proper change that helps not hurts. End our duopoly, open the debates...we have so much work to do now.

    Don't run back to the democrats.

    3 months of trump and we have mass protests, people waking up, educating themselves. Close to a real change.

    8 years of Obama and we got a little to complacent? apathetic? Sure Obama was killing people and supporting Mass spying (patriot act) and corrupt governments. But let's defend him anyway.

    Enough.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Idris said:

    rgambs said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Can you be less cryptic please?
    Sure,

    How much worse can things get? We have Trump as The President.


    Ok, so you were you trolling when you were posting cryptic pro-Trump posts, or are you trolling now that you are posting cryptic anti-Trump posts?
    No. I was never trolling. Stop it.

    Trump is President. How much worse do you want things to get?

    Make a change, And the change that we make should be a proper change that helps not hurts. End our duopoly, open the debates...we have so much work to do now.

    Don't run back to the democrats.

    3 months of trump and we have mass protests, people waking up, educating themselves. Close to a real change.

    8 years of Obama and we got a little to complacent? apathetic? Sure Obama was killing people and supporting Mass spying (patriot act) and corrupt governments. But let's defend him anyway.

    Enough.
    The Republican members of Congress will not be able to help/change this President.
    They will never stand up to the OF, even when he lies to their faces. Check out my boy Trey.

    https://youtu.be/eI8Eag_9LJ8

    Mark my words, they WILL endlessly enable his hostility and reckless behavior to the point of war or genocide.

    The only check on the Dems list in the past 2 months?
    Andrew effing Puzder (his middle name is actually Franklin)
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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,629
    Idris said:

    rgambs said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Idris said:

    mrussel.

    I never said "Let's burn down the house", I'm more like "The House is already burning to the ground, So let it burn, Let it Go. (like What are WE really trying to save here? Anything that we can't get back? or replace/change and make better?)

    and NO my argument was never that a majority of Americans are worse off today (compared to 30,40,50 years ago). You came up with that.
    -
    So let's check this out, Trump is the leader of the Free World, Right? He is the President of the United States of America....And he's useless, So how did someone so useless win the Presidency?

    He is soooooo bad...Then how is he the leader of the GREAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!?? Right after the Great Obama?
    So is this "House" really worth saving?

    So you're a democrat, Regardless of the democratic pick, you'll support them? So this system you support?

    Is the world you want to live in a world where the US is the Top superpower and everyone bends to our rule? and if they don't..We mmm attack them? Spying, Torture, oppression. Because that's much of what we've had the last whatever decades.

    That is what we do.

    and YES, We (for the most part) live well in the US. Not all of us, some more than others. But it means very little when our actions are hurting so many in so many places.
    -
    Obama the War Criminal, that people here will defend...A man, a hypocrite that dropped thousands of bombs, killed children, women, men..It didn't matter. Even changed the meaning of 'terrorist/enemy combatant/age'...what was it?? Any male within a certain area surely must be a terrorist?

    Do some of you understand the actual legacy Obama left, (for Trump) (Battery Low, I'll be back)

    Things are bad..Let's make a real change.

    But clearly, the change I seek, is not the same as the one you do. If you seek *Change or Not I don't even know.

    What's the point of burning something down unless you think it's getting worse?
    Trump is President.
    Can you be less cryptic please?
    Sure,

    How much worse can things get? We have Trump as The President.


    Ok, so you were you trolling when you were posting cryptic pro-Trump posts, or are you trolling now that you are posting cryptic anti-Trump posts?
    No. I was never trolling. Stop it.

    Trump is President. How much worse do you want things to get?

    Make a change, And the change that we make should be a proper change that helps not hurts. End our duopoly, open the debates...we have so much work to do now.

    Don't run back to the democrats.

    3 months of trump and we have mass protests, people waking up, educating themselves. Close to a real change.

    8 years of Obama and we got a little to complacent? apathetic? Sure Obama was killing people and supporting Mass spying (patriot act) and corrupt governments. But let's defend him anyway.

    Enough.
    Why not make a specific statement rather than all this ambiguous fluff? Following up on questions you ask would help, too.
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