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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    Why did I waste 3 minutes on that? "Everyone who works has become a Republican". People watch that stuff, too.
    you probably watched the wrong three minutes is my guess. your allowed to criticize your registered party.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:


    its a sad day when fox news pundits peg the democrats to a T. the good thing is, if they can figure it out maybe someday dems will too.
    forward to about 18min mark if you can't stomach the entire clip.
    Do the glasses help to make her look smart?
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 5,819
    JC29856 said:
    Why did I waste 3 minutes on that? "Everyone who works has become a Republican". People watch that stuff, too.
    you probably watched the wrong three minutes is my guess. your allowed to criticize your registered party.
    I watched 18 - 21. It's the usual stuff. I have no issue with Pelosi going away. The video seems to be more over generalizations. I thought the rich voted republican and dems collect low income voters with public assistance. But now dems are the party of the 1%?  They need to get on the same page with their ignorance. 
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    Obama to help navigate the party interesting to hear his now politically unencumbered suggestions.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346097-obama-to-reemerge-in-delicate-dance-with-dems

    Former President Barack Obama will re-emerge on the national scene this fall, though Democrats expect him to do so with caution.

    One aide describes the beginning of a "delicate dance" that aims to put Obama in the Democratic fray but prevents him from remaining the face of the party.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:
    Obama to help navigate the party interesting to hear his now politically unencumbered suggestions.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/346097-obama-to-reemerge-in-delicate-dance-with-dems

    Former President Barack Obama will re-emerge on the national scene this fall, though Democrats expect him to do so with caution.

    One aide describes the beginning of a "delicate dance" that aims to put Obama in the Democratic fray but prevents him from remaining the face of the party.

    Like GWB and the RNC? Ooooooo, breaking news with new, never before heard of political strategy. Something big, really big about Trump and Russia, Russia, Russia is coming!
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    great article about how democratic establishment uses race and gender as a weapon to silence progressives.

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/how-identity-became-a-weapon-against-the-left

    But certain parts of Kamala Harris’s political résumé have led to skepticism from the left. 
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    edited August 12
    JC29856 said:
    great article about how democratic establishment uses race and gender as a weapon to silence progressives.

    https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/08/how-identity-became-a-weapon-against-the-left

    But certain parts of Kamala Harris’s political résumé have led to skepticism from the left. 
    Harris has also drawn scrutiny over the crimes she wasn’t tough on. While serving as Attorney General of California, Harris failed to prosecute now-Treasury Secretary Steven “Foreclosure King” Mnuchin after his OneWest Bank engaged in a notoriously aggressive pattern of home foreclosures. Under Mnuchin, OneWest was a “foreclosure machine” that did everything it could to seize people’s houses, inflicting misery on homeowners while failing to properly review foreclosure documents. Harris’s consumer law division found that OneWest had engaged in “widespread misconduct” in its treatment of borrowers; the investigators urged Harris to “conduct a full investigation of a national bank’s misconduct and provide a public accounting of what happened.” Instead, Harris closed the case, not even pursuing the compromise measure of a civil penalty. As David Dayen writes, this “watered-down version of public accountability was seen as the best possible outcome, and Harris didn’t even go for that.” In failing to hold the bank accountable, Dayen emphasizes, Harris was far from alone among state law enforcement officials. Harris was, however, *the only Democratic senatorial candidate to whom Steven Mnuchin felt compelled to give a campaign donation.

    *see Newsflash
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 7,649
    You spent a day on this topic already.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    edited August 12
    we never addressed this thou....

    Attorney General, with responsibilities for overseeing the second largest prison population in the country, Harris’s professional obligation to put people behind bars was seen as being in direct tension with the goals of Black Lives Matter, perhaps the most prominent progressive movement of our time. Harris touted a reform-minded “smart on crime” approach in her prosecutorial role, one that encouraged education and reentry programs for ex-offenders, and in the Senate, she has co-sponsored legislation to improve prison conditions for women. Yet she has also come under heavy criticism from activists for, among other things: defending the state against court orders to reduce its prison population, declining to take a public stand on sentencing reform proposals, attempting to block a court decision requiring the state to provide a transgender inmate with gender reassignment surgery, opposing a measure to require independent inquiries into police uses of force, and obstructing efforts by federal judges to hold California prosecutors accountable for an “epidemic” of misconduct. Harris has been a zealous prosecutor (at times, she said, she has been “as close to a vigilante as you can get”), and certain of her policies—like bringing criminal charges against parents whose children miss school—conflict with the efforts of groups like BLM to reduce the reach of the criminal justice system into people’s lives.

    how progressive, jail struggling parents who can hardly raise their kids because they work 3 jobs to make ends meet.
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  • No matter what party you are........


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  • dignindignin Posts: 5,198
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    Some can't be woman enough to be their man. It's a Trump thing.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    Or they ain't getting any?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    edited August 14
    Dem Party Platform

    vote our corporate servant devoid of principles and policies candidate or vote for them Republican/Trump Supporting/White Supremacist/Nazis

    brilliant strategy, even I may cast a vote for Mama June instead of the Republican/Nazi
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:
    Dem Party Platform

    vote our corporate servant devoid of principles and policies candidate or vote for them Republican/Trump Supporting/White Supremacist/Nazis

    brilliant strategy, even I may cast a vote for Mama June instead of the Republican/Nazi
    Yea, sure you will.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,900
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    In particular  black female democrats elected to the senate
  • dignindignin Posts: 5,198
    dignin said:
    Someone here sure has a bone to pick with female democrats.

    In particular  black female democrats elected to the senate
    Good point. I think you're on to something.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    edited August 17
    Astroturf and campaign advertising

    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignoring their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to actually  help non-whites.
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?

    Silence speaks louder than words!
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:
    Astroturf and campaign advertising

    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignoring their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to help actually non-whites.
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?

    Silence speaks louder than words!
    Again, nice try. Have you seen the unemployment rate lately? Please point to one accomplishment of Trump and the republican held congress on any one of the concerns, issues rather, that you raised. I'll go make my breakfast.

    Desperado, you've got the weight on your shoulders........
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it. Any real legislation proposed by a democrat won't make it to the floor for a vote. You know this goes right up Mitch McConnell's ass. I wonder if he's contemplating retirement?

    What are republicans doing to fight racism, seeing that they have all three branches of government and could certainly garner democrat support for legitimate, helpful legislation?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 7,649
    I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...

    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  

    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,897
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 7,649
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    Why would it be unconstitutional?  There is no protection for monuments in any of the amendments.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 8,976
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    I'm not sure I follow? I was responding to JC's response of Political Campaign 101, as referenced to Booker introducing legislation to remove confederate statues from the capitol building. Without having read the bill, I'll assume it directs the Architect of the Capitol to have them removed, as the Architect is responsible for the care and upkeep as directed by the congress. Please clarify.
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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, ColoradoPosts: 3,900
    mrussel1 said:
    I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...

    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  

    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 
    Oddly enough the post was also missing the the usual blaming of Barack Obama and Kamala Harris
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 8,350
    This is the typical response (and those like it) when one cannot discuss and address the issue(s) raised. As I have pointed out in the past Democrats are experts at using race and gender as weapons to deflect from real issues. When one cannot address the real issue because any reply would completely lack merit ones simply play "virtual twister" in attempta to misrepresent and/or re-frame the argument(s) issues put forth.
    Let me illustrate:
    In this post I'm asking where do democrats stand on these issues raised? (real issues not statues). I'm not even asking for action, I'm simply asking for words, lip service, the lowest bar to measure one's position on the issues facing non whites.
     
    Ignoring what democrats (and republicans if you will) actually do for non-whites, and ignore their sudden outrage over white supremacy, what have they said to actually help non-whites
    What have they said about the disease that impacts non whites disproportionately?
    What have they said about the disproportionate incarceration rate of non whites?
    What have they said about the disproportionate number of non white children in poverty?
    What have they said about the abuse of low wage workers here and or around the world?
    (are these valid arguments made by non-whites? I certainly think so)

    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism
    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html
    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Reply:I always knew Corey Booker was a racist...
    JC slept through the part of history when progressives pushed through an entire generation of civil rights acts.  
    Your post is absurd and intended to be provocative as usual.  Unfortunately it is also clumsy  dereft of historical perspective,  and therefore laughable. 

    Since there are little if any actions that Democrats have taken to help with racism and the daily struggles that face non whites, Im pointing out this bill that Booker introduced to help deal with racism. (I'm ignoring the fact that seldom if ever at all, are statues the reason or cause of racism, I will admit thou this is the first time I have heard of such a claim, plus that this bill does nothing to help the four issues I raised above) Lets look to the symptoms of real racism not overblown reactions to protests and demonstrations over statues. 

    So what we have in the above reply is either an attempt to use race to deflect from the issues raised because any opposing argument is without merit or its simply ones opinion. Since its silly and pointless to argue someones opinion, we can only argue or discuss the basis on which their opinion is formed. For the sake of argument, lets assume that the post was not an attempt to re-fame or misrepresent and say it was an opinion. So I ask this, ignoring the initial post (for context) leading up to the post that was replied to, how does one conclude or suggest "Corey Booker is/was a racist" by pointing out a bill introduced by Booker? I'm eager to hear the responses!

    I would love nothing more than to discuss where democrats stood on civil rights acts and where they stood against racism and segregation "historically" but before we can do that we need to discuss how we go from A (booker bill) to B (booker is racist), otherwise I'm just signing on for more virtual twister of endless misrepresentations, which I also admit russ is pretty good at(see KKK/funeral).
     
    One more thing I almost forgot, it is entirely possible that one only viewed/read the Booker post and did not view/read my initial post about those four issues raised. Maybe that is the aim, misrepresent and re-frame and hope that others don't read up and view previous posts for perspective, ie, inviting more virtual twister players to further your misrepresentations. 

    Im certain a reply, if anyone replies, will if do exactly what I just mentioned, misrepresent and re-frame the point of this about misrepresenting and re-framing an argument. I'll reiterate it again in bold: how does one conclude or suggest "Corey Booker is/was a racist" by pointing out a bill introduced by Booker?
    (And these questions can be re-phrased and asked about 90% of what you asked)
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ONPosts: 6,897
    benjs said:
    JC29856 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Here is what democrats are actually doing to fight racism against non-whites.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/sen-cory-booker-introduce-bill-remove-confederate-statues-052404285--abc-news-topstories.html

    Sen. Cory Booker says he plans to introduce bill to remove Confederate statues from Capitol

    Because there just might be enough votes to pass it and dare Trump to veto it.
    CAMPAIGN ADVERTISING 101
    You have an issue with that?
    Honest question - would the removal be Constitutional? If the answer is no, I've got an issue with it too.
    I'm not sure I follow? I was responding to JC's response of Political Campaign 101, as referenced to Booker introducing legislation to remove confederate statues from the capitol building. Without having read the bill, I'll assume it directs the Architect of the Capitol to have them removed, as the Architect is responsible for the care and upkeep as directed by the congress. Please clarify.
    Sorry, I should've been more clear. What I'm wondering is whether a statue representing a movement could be seen as 'expression'. Regardless of the disgusting nature of that movement, the statue itself does not harm people - people misconstrue its existence as freedom to act akin to the Confederate South. 

    As far as JC's statement goes, I think we're in agreement, Halifax. I frankly don't give a shit whether Booker's concern about these statues are out of the goodness of his heart, or to prop up his own name: if I want to make society better by moving in a certain direction, and another person wants to move in that direction for other reasons, the outcome of betterment of society remains, no matter how disingenuous it is. That's of literally no concern to me. 
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