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PhishinPearlsPhishinPearls NYC Posts: 60
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Have to say, I've been fortunate enough to see this four out of 12 shows, more than I've seen Daughter in fact - thoughts on placement? I've seen it twice as an opener, twice in the encore, the first couple of times it really ever opened a show - I think it's a much stronger opener and should be used more often. Just my two cents as dip my toe back into the forum - a long way from being the setlist relayer for the forum at MSG years ago.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,899
    0 for 18 right here. I'll take it anywhere in the set!
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    PhishinPearlsPhishinPearls NYC Posts: 60
    Pretty wild. But yes, I've seen HTI more than Daughter, as absurd as that is.
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    JuannicenboimJuannicenboim Argentina Posts: 60
    i love that one. hope it gets played in chicago, on any of the 2 nights
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    red mosred mos Posts: 4,953
    edited February 2016
    It was the 2nd song in the Tulsa set. I thought it fit well. I'm glad I got to hear it live.
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,941
    I don't think it really works as an opener. You want something there that is going to pop the crowd, get them into it right away. HTI is largely unknown to many in most crowds.
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    hsohihsohi Posts: 1,033
    JimmyV said:

    I don't think it really works as an opener. You want something there that is going to pop the crowd, get them into it right away. HTI is largely unknown to many in most crowds.

    They wouldn't be able to sustain the energy for the whole show.
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    buck502000buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    I think it works great that woozy guitar intro and Ed's voice it sucks you right in......I saw this one to open :) plus I thought it was hard to image where I was :bee:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayn5G9KoTSo

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    samjamsamjam New York Posts: 9,283
    Yes please! 12 shows, heard it once, Baltimore '13. It was exactly what I wanted, I couldn't believe it! Up to that point, and if you don't count Pendulum (since they followed with more traditional openers) I'd had all unique openers for at 7 shows I'd been to at that point. I'd heard all the 'usual' ones, except for Hard to Imagine--a song I reeeally wanted to hear. And lo and behold, after Pendulum, there it came! I was beside myself. It was the perfect show for that song to be played at, too, on a personal level. I tear up a little every time I listen to it on the boot. Very special song.

    Hoping to hear it again this year!
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    AAJCAAJC Calgary, AB, Canada Posts: 262
    edited February 2016
    Had it song 2 in Calgary after "Of The Girl". It was good to hear, because it was hard to imagine that anyone made it to that show given the blizzard situation outside. What a shit-show it was getting to the gig, but having GA tix was nice given some people didn't show up or couldn't get in to Calgary, so the pit was empty. haha. Walked right up to the front 10 minutes before Ed stepped on stage.
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    PhishinPearlsPhishinPearls NYC Posts: 60
    JimmyV said:

    I don't think it really works as an opener. You want something there that is going to pop the crowd, get them into it right away. HTI is largely unknown to many in most crowds.

    I 100% disagree with this. Both times I saw it, the place went nuts, in Camden and MSG. Don't sell the fan base short, they're very intelligent and savvy.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,899
    samjam said:

    Yes please! 12 shows, heard it once, Baltimore '13. It was exactly what I wanted, I couldn't believe it!

    I wanted it REALLY badly in 2013 too.

    NYC 1- nope
    NYC 2- nope
    Philly 1- nope
    Philly 2- nope
    Hartford- nope

    I lost out on the GA lotto for Baltimore (it was my second pick). Decided I could not make it to six shows in a row. Would have went if it was a Saturday but couldn't do sunday.

    Baltimore- Hard to Imagine

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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    edited February 2016
    I think the VIC is the only time I've heard it??? Hopefully this shows up at Lexington or Wrigley

    Update: yeah according to my tracker I only heard this once...yup needs to be heard again

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    GibsonGibson Toronto Posts: 2,548
    1/29.
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    NAIS
    Off He Goes
    Hard to Imagine
    Alive

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    PhishNoCPhishNoC Tennessee Posts: 325
    red mos said:

    It was the 2nd song in the Tulsa set. I thought it fit well. I'm glad I got to hear it live.

    I was at this show too, That version is completely on point, and Ed was feeling great, threw in a bonus verse even.
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    RS151862RS151862 Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 2,626
    Pendulum--> HTI in Baltimore was excellent. Flowed together nicely and was a great way to start the show.
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    foodboyfoodboy Posts: 988
    hti in london 05 is the best version ever. and was lucky to be there.
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    I_Am_Mine_84I_Am_Mine_84 Toronto Posts: 25
    Love love it. Please play in Toronto!
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    evenflow82evenflow82 Posts: 3,852
    Take off any of the noise songs on vitalogy and put this one in its place.
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    Bumping all the threads about the music to the front page, because that's how it should be!
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    PhishinPearlsPhishinPearls NYC Posts: 60
    Works for me! The first time I saw this live was unreal, btw, as a first encore:

    Around The Bend
    Harvest Moon
    Hard To Imagine
    Crown of Thorns
    Crazy Mary
    Alive

    *swoon*
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,899
    PhishinPearls said:

    Works for me! The first time I saw this live was unreal, btw, as a first encore:

    Around The Bend
    Harvest Moon
    Hard To Imagine
    Crown of Thorns
    Crazy Mary
    Alive

    *swoon*

    Philly 2005!
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    jwhjr17jwhjr17 Posts: 1,909
    Still waiting to hear it. Got crossed off of the last show I was at :angry:
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    PhishinPearlsPhishinPearls NYC Posts: 60
    SVRDhand13 said:

    PhishinPearls said:

    Works for me! The first time I saw this live was unreal, btw, as a first encore:

    Around The Bend
    Harvest Moon
    Hard To Imagine
    Crown of Thorns
    Crazy Mary
    Alive

    *swoon*

    Philly 2005!
    You know it. That show was fire. Rarity after rarity after rarity.
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    SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 NYC Posts: 25,899
    PhishinPearls said:

    SVRDhand13 said:

    PhishinPearls said:

    Works for me! The first time I saw this live was unreal, btw, as a first encore:

    Around The Bend
    Harvest Moon
    Hard To Imagine
    Crown of Thorns
    Crazy Mary
    Alive

    *swoon*

    Philly 2005!
    You know it. That show was fire. Rarity after rarity after rarity.
    I stupidly didn't try to get tix for this show after missing out on AC. So young, so dumb.
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    -Buru--Buru- Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 1,292
    It would be a great opener. Also great anywhere in the set, love it.
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,085
    The Pendulum--HTI combo opening is awesome. Got it in Tulsa and it was a fantastic start.
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    hrd2imgnhrd2imgn Southwest Burbs of Chicago Posts: 4,869
    Has to be an opener to a set or following something where the guitar can lead in from quiet
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    YLed2YLed2 Des Moines, IA Posts: 5,534
    My white whale. Someday, somehow I will get to hear this gem live.
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    TamaDrummer91TamaDrummer91 VA Posts: 1,289
    edited February 2016
    YLed2 said:

    My white whale. Someday, somehow I will get to hear this gem live.

    I hope you get it this year man! After 6 shows, I'm still waiting to hear Hail Hail. I'm a bit surprised to have not heard it yet and it's one of my favs.

    HTI was the very first PJ song I got to hear live in person. It was a shock at the Roo 08. I still remember the feeling I had. Magic.
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    MUZIKMUZIK Posts: 627
    edited February 2016
    oh man i would take this anywhere in a set but if i were to choose where it would be to open up the show.

    such a gem.
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