Audiophile Poll: Do the Ten, Vs, and Vitalogy Vinyl Re-Releases really sound "flat?"

dmaradona10

Every now and then I run across a comment on the boards that the re-releases especially the Ten vinyl sound flat. Just want to see what the consensus is.

2-feign-reluctance

No

Could be the EQ on your stereo and speakers.

lolobugg

Yes

Should disclose that I haven't heard Vs. or Vitalogy but Ten re-release sounds like shite.

Blredyellow

No. Dumb poll

dudeman

No

I recently compared the original releases and the re-issues on my system and I think the re-issues sound very good.

lolobugg

Yes

ok. are we talking CD or Vinyl here?

cp3iverson

Yes

Ten reissue doesn't sound as good as my original Ten pressing. The dynamics are off or something. It may be brickwalled

lolobugg

Yes

cp3iverson said:

Ten reissue doesn't sound as good as my original Ten pressing. The dynamics are off or something. It may be brickwalled

^this

Nami

dont have the originals to compare but they sound good to me.

PJ_Soul

Yes

I have only compared the original and reissued Vitalogy. The reissue sounded way worse. The difference was very noticeable. Haven't compared with Ten or Vs., but I know I am underwhelmed by the sound of the reissues (only a little better than the Vitalogy reissue IMO), and only hope that the originals sound better. I hear that they do, and hope to test it out myself soon.
I have wondered if there aren't differences between reissues though, given the very mixed reports. Or maybe it really is just a real difference in perspective. Hard to say. I don't think equipment has anything to do with it though, since people have compared using the same system.

RobbyD462

No

Whoops I'm mean yes.
Remastered sound terrible in my opinion.Better depth on the originals I think.
Should have read better sorry, please change if you can

MedozK

Yes

Not a fan of the remasters. I will always pick the originals to play, however I do like the remix of Ten.

hrd2imgn

Is 'lack of depth" really due to vocal clarity being higher since there is no more reverb on them?/ The remaster of the sounds good to me, the remix OK, but I have always liked the original best. Now that could be due to listening To it for ten plus years and anything different sounding off due tovlack of familiarity

hrd2imgn

Granted there wasn't as much reverb on vs and really none on vitalogy

dmaradona10

No

Topic bump.

buck502000

Dunno - only have originals - but love those

2-feign-reluctance

No

2-feign-reluctance said:

Could be the EQ on your stereo and speakers.

MedozK

Yes

Always play the originals when I want to listen to these on vinyl.

RoleModelsinBlood31

Yes

I only know how they sound on my system but I reach for the originals only now. Ten has the biggest audible difference followed by vitalogy and then vs on my dealio. I acquired original ten about a year ago and until then had only played the re issue and omg the original is light years better on my system. Sounds so fat and un-messed with while the reissue sounds like someone played with it.

Zod

Yes

Vs/Vitalogy I always choose the original (cd or vinyl). I do think they sound better. Sometimes I listen to the new version of 10, only because sometimes I think it's interesting to listen to the new mix (opposed to the wierd reverb on the original). The other two it's always the originals. It feels like the re-issues got remastered a bit. I love the mix on 90's albums way more than modern albums (the loudness stuff etc..).

dudeman

No

I'm spinning the Vitalogy reissue right now. Loud. Sounds great.

SK203708

I compared all 3 reissues to the originals. The original wins every time, hands down. The Ten reissue is the least annoying imo - you just need to turn the volume up (which is a good thing most of the times). Vitalogy and Vs. reissues sound very "hot" and once you turn them up past a certain point my ears bleed - a problem the originals don't have. That said: the originals are no "audiophile" releases either, there's a lot of room for improvement.

rummy

I don't know about the sound but I still can't believe they couldn't somehow stick the four b-sides somewhere in the compilation.

dudeman

No

I played all three vinyl reissues again. They all sound great to me. They sound a little different than the originals but worse is debatable.

MedozK

Yes

Very debatable subject.Everyone's ears are different so that is what gives everyone's answer validity.

What really becomes interesting is when you look at analog pressings vs digital. Sometimes you are just as well to buy the CD then the CD pressed into vinyl.

I have sometimes wondered that I need to do an experiment, and put a record on for someone, but have the amp still set to my digital medium. Let it play as I put the needle down, making the listener think they are listening to vinyl.... I wonder how many would talk about that "warm" sound then.

2-feign-reluctance

No

MedozK said:

Very debatable subject.Everyone's ears are different so that is what gives everyone's answer validity.

What really becomes interesting is when you look at analog pressings vs digital. Sometimes you are just as well to buy the CD then the CD pressed into vinyl.

I have sometimes wondered that I need to do an experiment, and put a record on for someone, but have the amp still set to my digital medium. Let it play as I put the needle down, making the listener think they are listening to vinyl.... I wonder how many would talk about that "warm" sound then.

YouTube it Medoz!

ikiT

No

This is just my opinion...and I've been living with the original vs and Vitalogy releases since day 1. My vs and Ten "originals" were the cassettes.
Ten redux sounds sorta different than the pink Ten...but it's hard to nail down what it is and where it's different. Ed's under his breath sequence during Once? The stereo imaging of the bass? The volume of the drums? I have no idea what it is...
At a reasonable volume (meaning sorta LOUD) I notice absolutely no difference in the reissued Ten, vs., and Vitalogy CDs from the original CDs.
The LPs from the super deluxe boxes sound like records... albeit really, really, really, quiet records. I dont have the orig LPs.

ikiT

No

I'll tell you what, they play those songs a lot faster nowadays...

ikiT

No

2-feign-reluctance said:

Could be the EQ on your stereo and speakers.

and this ///||\\ //||\\ booost the treble, yo

2-feign-reluctance

No

The remixed, remastered version is pretty awesome - I love how tight it sounds. I don't like the Jeremy remix though. Oceans is a real highlight and that opening riff on Porch, damn, crunchy awesome!

javis el errante

No

No