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whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
edited February 2015 in The Porch
pick one
First: ATL2 04/03/1994
Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
Next: ??
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PJ vs TOTD 83 votes

Times of Trouble
8%
2-feign-reluctancemrluthor9Jason Pdrewski_662wall232juddboz80PJ_Soul 7 votes
Footsteps
91%
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    Footsteps
    Not even close in my opinion. I'm sure someone else will have the opposite opinion. I actually dug when Cornell did Footsteps on Fallon with the Avett Bros.
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    Footsteps
    completely agree. i was just thinking about it, since i'm spinning TOTD right now. i have read praises here and there throughout the years, and wondered how these two bands compare musically. personnel? ok, i get that. sonically? no question whatsoever in my mind.
    First: ATL2 04/03/1994
    Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
    Next: ??
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    smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    Footsteps
    not even close at all




    period
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
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    smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    edited February 2015
    Footsteps
    double post



    period

    Post edited by smarchee on
    1998 ~ Barrie
    2003 ~ Toronto
    2005 ~ London, Toronto
    2006 ~ Toronto
    2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
    2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
    2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
    2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
    2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
    2014 - Detroit
    2019 - Chicago X 2
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    Empty GlassEmpty Glass In Rob's shed Posts: 12,329
    Footsteps
    yep, not close at all
    I've met Rob

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    This place is dead

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    FoxyRedLaFoxyRedLa Lauren / MI Posts: 4,810
    Footsteps
    Footsteps. Agreed.
    Oh please let it rain today.
    Those that can be trusted can change their mind.
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    Times of Trouble
    Thanks to BMG music subscription - my Dad gave me a TOTD tape in 199? and this was one of my faves from the record, still is.
    www.cluthelee.com
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    Times of Trouble
    I didn't hear Footsteps years later & didn't put it together that it wasn't Ed and Stone covering TOT.
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    Footsteps
    First: ATL2 04/03/1994
    Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
    Next: ??
    http://expressobeans.com/members/collections.php?id=29417
    “I think you won, but I enjoyed the fight” - EV
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,889
    Footsteps
    Not even close....footsteps by a light year
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    Footsteps
    TOTD has a couple of real gems on it. It would be amazing if they collaborate with Cornell on something in the future.
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    Footsteps
    TOTD is not a bad album, by any stretch of the imagination. solid stuff. i like every piece of it. but... Footsteps is without question, my favorite piece in the PJ catalog. I have often wondered... would Times of Trouble have even existed were it not for the Momma/Son? like, maybe since Cornell wanted that song on "Andy's" album, perhaps that's why EV/SG/JA left it off of Ten? curious to thoughts of fans.
    First: ATL2 04/03/1994
    Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
    Next: ??
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    “I think you won, but I enjoyed the fight” - EV
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    Abe FromanAbe Froman Posts: 5,064
    Footsteps
    I really like Times of Trouble but Footsteps is on a different level.
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    Thief of SilenceThief of Silence Posts: 169
    Footsteps
    Not even close here either. I never really got TOTD. Actually, same thing with Footsteps. I hated listening to it on the boots - It wasn't until I saw it live in Vancouver '05 that the song actually hit me.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,544
    edited February 2015
    Times of Trouble
    Heh heh. Well... what can i say? I like them both fine, but have always thought that Footsteps is a bit boring. I know a lot of people LOVE it. Some even call it their favorite PJ song... i just don't get it. It's okay. Good song. I thought it was only alright live. Times of Trouble is also okay... pretty good. I find it slightly more interesting, so wins by a hair. I guess. Maybe i just think that because i hear it way less often, and am simply more bored with Footsteps. I could really go either way, and voted for the underdog I suppose. :tongue:
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Times of Trouble
    Most of you are high on drugs. Get help. Please.
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    WhatYouTaughtMeWhatYouTaughtMe I have no idea what's going on right now! Posts: 4,957
    Footsteps
    Jason P said:

    Most of you are high on drugs. Get help. Please.

    What's your point? Hahaha
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    Times of Trouble
    whofeelslikeadrank said:

    This was fucking awesome! Makes me want to watch the other ones.
    www.cluthelee.com
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    2-feign-reluctance2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,143
    Times of Trouble


    Wow!!
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,418
    Footsteps
    Love both songs.. edge goes to Footsteps because the first time I ever heard it, the lyrics just resonated with me. It came at a time when I needed it.
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    mrluthor9mrluthor9 Posts: 264
    Times of Trouble
    The first time I heard Footsteps live I was like ...wow they are going to cover Times of Trouble...which I prefer over the two. It would be great to hear PJ cover the original version.
    All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives,.....choosing the shiny ones instead,......
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    lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,190
    Footsteps
    HesCalledDyer said:

    Love both songs.. edge goes to Footsteps because the first time I ever heard it, the lyrics just resonated with me. It came at a time when I needed it.

    ^this

    livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446

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    wall232wall232 New York Posts: 1,346
    Times of Trouble
    mrluthor9 said:

    The first time I heard Footsteps live I was like ...wow they are going to cover Times of Trouble...which I prefer over the two. It would be great to hear PJ cover the original version.

    This is exactly how I felt. Love both songs but Times of Trouble gets the edge for me.
    NYPJ
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,833
    Footsteps
    I nearly shat myself when they played this in St Paul. fucking love that song.
    Flight Risk out NOW!

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    FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,095
    Footsteps
    Not even close.
    Was really hoping for back to back Footsteps -> Times of Trouble at Cornell's solo shows, but that didn't happen because he played the better of the 2.
    2003: 7/14 NJ ... 2006: 6/1 NJ, 6/3 NJ ... 2007: 8/5 IL ... 2008: 6/24 NY, 6/25 NY, 8/7 EV NJ ... 2009: 10/27 PA, 10/28 PA, 10/30 PA, 10/31 PA
    2010: 5/20 NY, 5/21 NY ... 2011: 6/21 EV NY, 9/3 WI, 9/4 WI ... 2012: 9/2 PA, 9/22 GA ... 2013: 10/18 NY, 10/19 NY, 10/21 PA, 10/22 PA, 10/27 MD
    2015: 9/23 NY, 9/26 NY ... 2016: 4/28 PA, 4/29 PA, 5/1 NY, 5/2 NY, 6/11 TN, 8/7 MA, 11/4 TOTD PA, 11/5 TOTD PA ... 2018: 8/10 WA ---- http://imgur.com/a/nk0s7
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    mrluthor9mrluthor9 Posts: 264
    Times of Trouble
    wall232 said:

    mrluthor9 said:

    The first time I heard Footsteps live I was like ...wow they are going to cover Times of Trouble...which I prefer over the two. It would be great to hear PJ cover the original version.

    This is exactly how I felt. Love both songs but Times of Trouble gets the edge for me.
    No doubt. I don't think I have ever heard any TOTD reunion do Times of Trouble but I wish they would. I have to say.. the most recent reunion at the Sonic Evolutions/Mad Season show was the best I have ever heard with amazing versions of Reach Down and Call Me a Dog. Chris was totally on that night and also killed River of Deceit. Either way...great versions by my two all time favorite lead vocalists.
    All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives,.....choosing the shiny ones instead,......
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,409
    Footsteps
    mrluthor9 said:

    The first time I heard Footsteps live I was like ...wow they are going to cover Times of Trouble...which I prefer over the two. It would be great to hear PJ cover the original version.

    Footsteps was written first
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    whofeelslikeadrankwhofeelslikeadrank Posts: 2,702
    Footsteps
    igotid88 said:

    mrluthor9 said:

    The first time I heard Footsteps live I was like ...wow they are going to cover Times of Trouble...which I prefer over the two. It would be great to hear PJ cover the original version.

    Footsteps was written first
    First: ATL2 04/03/1994
    Last: SEA2 08/10/2018
    Next: ??
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    “I think you won, but I enjoyed the fight” - EV
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    igotid88igotid88 Posts: 27,409
    Footsteps
    Real question is Footsteps with or without the harmonica
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    mrluthor9mrluthor9 Posts: 264
    edited February 2015
    Times of Trouble
    Stone wrote the music first... apparently both Ed and Chris wrote different lyrics at around the same time. I personally didn't hear Footsteps until years after I heard Times of Trouble...kinda like Chris.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLMiLwwDI3U
    Post edited by mrluthor9 on
    All the rusted signs we ignore throughout our lives,.....choosing the shiny ones instead,......
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