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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
    Can't they both?

    Every news source was following it because Trump brought it up.  News sources were discussing why it is important that we do something.  They went and interviewed the migrants in central America then after the election, everyone stopped reporting on it.

    You even said it was a political ploy and I agree with you.  Both sides got what they wanted from it.

    1-to put Trump as an unemphatic person towards the plights of the migrants.
    2-to show that an "invasion" was coming and to be scared.

    Trump stopped tweeting and the media stopped caring.

    It's what I thought you were getting to?  Am I wrong?
    I was talking about the politics of it. When you said political ploy on both sides I thought you meant democrat and republican. It was a ploy by the president and the republicans and fox news carried their water with non stop coverage. The other channels were forced to cover it some because of what the president said but none gave it nearly the attention that fox did.


    When my feed has news stories from the BBC and the Times with titles that say "The Migrant Caravan and why it matters" it means that they did care and wanted to thumb it back at Trump.

    Just what I gathered that Trump stopped tweeting and the rest of the world stopped caring.

    If the other news media outlets thought this was a fight worth supporting(the caravan) then why did they stop on a dime reporting also?

    I think you are giving each side too much credit.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,803

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
    Can't they both?

    Every news source was following it because Trump brought it up.  News sources were discussing why it is important that we do something.  They went and interviewed the migrants in central America then after the election, everyone stopped reporting on it.

    You even said it was a political ploy and I agree with you.  Both sides got what they wanted from it.

    1-to put Trump as an unemphatic person towards the plights of the migrants.
    2-to show that an "invasion" was coming and to be scared.

    Trump stopped tweeting and the media stopped caring.

    It's what I thought you were getting to?  Am I wrong?
    I was talking about the politics of it. When you said political ploy on both sides I thought you meant democrat and republican. It was a ploy by the president and the republicans and fox news carried their water with non stop coverage. The other channels were forced to cover it some because of what the president said but none gave it nearly the attention that fox did.


    When my feed has news stories from the BBC and the Times with titles that say "The Migrant Caravan and why it matters" it means that they did care and wanted to thumb it back at Trump.

    Just what I gathered that Trump stopped tweeting and the rest of the world stopped caring.

    If the other news media outlets thought this was a fight worth supporting(the caravan) then why did they stop on a dime reporting also?

    I think you are giving each side too much credit.

    The other media outlets didn't stop covering it.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46147137

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/caravan-migrants-trump-1.4897562

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/08/us/politics/trump-asylum-seekers-executive-order.html?action=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage


    These are all from the front pages today.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,803
    But honestly, the migrant caravan doesn’t need to be reported on daily. It’s a group of people moving on foot, so not that much changes from day to day. It became news because Trump made it so, and more sane voices needed to counteract the narrative of fear. Now that that narrative has mysteriously dropped, there’s no need to write factual articles about the same thing again and again. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,992

    I googled this because I was curious...
    https://www.foxnews.com/world/migrant-caravan-gets-within-reach-of-border-what-happens-now

    3 hours ago.  So the media is listening.
    An article on their website is akin to wall to wall coverage with reporters embedded with the "invaders?"
    As recently as Monday this was supposedly a crisis the required us sending 15,000 troops down there as soon as possible. 

    Trump hasn't tweeted about it since before the election. His supporters are suckers. 
    I should have been clearer that I was agreeing w you.  Funny how that all media outlets were noticing "no coverage" on the caravan and reporting the same thing you said then boom, there's finally a story.

    It is interesting that only Fox is still running a story and even more interesting that no other media outlets are too.

    You were right.  It was a huge political ploy on both sides...  No one really gives a shit about the caravan.


    How was it a political ploy on both sides? One side blatantly lied and exaggerated the threat leading up Tuesday while the other side talked about health care, and the economy. 
    Can't they both?

    Every news source was following it because Trump brought it up.  News sources were discussing why it is important that we do something.  They went and interviewed the migrants in central America then after the election, everyone stopped reporting on it.

    You even said it was a political ploy and I agree with you.  Both sides got what they wanted from it.

    1-to put Trump as an unemphatic person towards the plights of the migrants.
    2-to show that an "invasion" was coming and to be scared.

    Trump stopped tweeting and the media stopped caring.

    It's what I thought you were getting to?  Am I wrong?
    I was talking about the politics of it. When you said political ploy on both sides I thought you meant democrat and republican. It was a ploy by the president and the republicans and fox news carried their water with non stop coverage. The other channels were forced to cover it some because of what the president said but none gave it nearly the attention that fox did.


    When my feed has news stories from the BBC and the Times with titles that say "The Migrant Caravan and why it matters" it means that they did care and wanted to thumb it back at Trump.

    Just what I gathered that Trump stopped tweeting and the rest of the world stopped caring.

    If the other news media outlets thought this was a fight worth supporting(the caravan) then why did they stop on a dime reporting also?

    I think you are giving each side too much credit.
    The sides I am talking about are the Republican Party (and their state run media, Fox) and the democrat party. Not totally sure what your point is. 

    As of Monday, Fox had reporters embedded within the caravan and they were broadcasting live at the border while the president would not shut up about how this invasion was getting closer and closer to our country. Now? It’s hardly getting any attention on the news and the president hasn’t even really talked about it since the election. It was a political con job perpetrated by the president and his allies on Fox. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,992
    edited November 11
    Waiting....watching the clock...it’s four o’clock and there’s absolutely no invasion coming

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/us/deployed-inside-the-united-states-the-military-waits-for-the-migrant-caravan.html#click=https://t.co/44ezyKcYCu

    Deployed Inside the United States: The Military Waits for the Migrant Caravan

    With little electricity, no combat pay and holidays away from home, the 5,600 American troops on the southwest border are on a mission ordered by a politically determined commander in chief and a Pentagon unable to convince him of its perils.

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,803
    Waiting....watching the clock...it’s four o’clock and there’s absolutely no invasion coming

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/us/deployed-inside-the-united-states-the-military-waits-for-the-migrant-caravan.html#click=https://t.co/44ezyKcYCu

    Deployed Inside the United States: The Military Waits for the Migrant Caravan

    With little electricity, no combat pay and holidays away from home, the 5,600 American troops on the southwest border are on a mission ordered by a politically determined commander in chief and a Pentagon unable to convince him of its perils.

    I’m just reading this now on the paper version of the NYT during a leisurely Sunday breakfast. I didn’t realize that it’s illegal for US troops to enforce US immigration law. There is basically nothing these troops are allowed to do other than logistical support, which the National Guard is already doing. 

    And this is projected to cost about $200 million. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,992
    Waiting....watching the clock...it’s four o’clock and there’s absolutely no invasion coming

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/10/us/deployed-inside-the-united-states-the-military-waits-for-the-migrant-caravan.html#click=https://t.co/44ezyKcYCu

    Deployed Inside the United States: The Military Waits for the Migrant Caravan

    With little electricity, no combat pay and holidays away from home, the 5,600 American troops on the southwest border are on a mission ordered by a politically determined commander in chief and a Pentagon unable to convince him of its perils.

    I’m just reading this now on the paper version of the NYT during a leisurely Sunday breakfast. I didn’t realize that it’s illegal for US troops to enforce US immigration law. There is basically nothing these troops are allowed to do other than logistical support, which the National Guard is already doing. 

    And this is projected to cost about $200 million. 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,708
    So when does this invasion begin?  Are you prepared?
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,958
    So when does this invasion begin?  Are you prepared?
    Folks are cowering in middle America.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 31,992
    So when does this invasion begin?  Are you prepared?
    My wife and I have practiced our evacuation route at least a dozen times already.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951
    unsung said:
    We get MS13 stories like this here on Long Island a lot.
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,486
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 14,951
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    I'd be willing to gamble that he didn't purchase the gun legally but that's just me...
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,486
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    I'd be willing to gamble that he didn't purchase the gun legally but that's just me...
    Yeah solid point.  I don't know if he did or didn't.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 16,958
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    I'd be willing to gamble that he didn't purchase the gun legally but that's just me...
    Yeah solid point.  I don't know if he did or didn't.
    Somewhere along the line a “responsible” gun owner did though, right?

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    Looks like he killed his 'roommates'.  Probly a bunch of immigrants squatting in someone's vacation home.  If they were illegals too, is really even murder?
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,486
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    Looks like he killed his 'roommates'.  Probly a bunch of immigrants squatting in someone's vacation home.  If they were illegals too, is really even murder?
    Seriously?  So if you want real immigration reform and actual borders/rules you don't think it's murder when someone in the country illegally gets killed?
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 2,708
    So when does this invasion begin?  Are you prepared?
    My wife and I have practiced our evacuation route at least a dozen times already.
    LOL.  Are you travelling by foot?  I watched a Netflix show about preppers, they practice their getaway route over and over, its always by foot.  
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 15,789
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    Looks like he killed his 'roommates'.  Probly a bunch of immigrants squatting in someone's vacation home.  If they were illegals too, is really even murder?
    I hope you're joking
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,649
    CM189191 said:
    CM189191 said:
    unsung said:
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy kills three
    Firearm purchased due to weak gun policy used by criminal illegal immigrant in country due to weak immigration policy kills 3
    Looks like he killed his 'roommates'.  Probly a bunch of immigrants squatting in someone's vacation home.  If they were illegals too, is really even murder?
    I really really hope this is just a really really tasteless joke. 
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 8,803
    For god’s sake, why would anyone take that post from that poster as a genuine expression of opinion? 

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s sarcasm. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon WinnipegPosts: 15,649
    For god’s sake, why would anyone take that post from that poster as a genuine expression of opinion? 

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s sarcasm. 
    I am definitely leaning towards that, but sometimes it's hard to tell. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,930
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,486
    mrussel1 said:
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
    Yeah it wasn’t just an asshole comment to try and make people look bad when they want immigration reform. It wasn’t a sick comment that he/she doesn’t care.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,930
    mrussel1 said:
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
    Yeah it wasn’t just an asshole comment to try and make people look bad when they want immigration reform. It wasn’t a sick comment that he/she doesn’t care.
    You're drawing your own conclusions there.  It was self evident that he doesn't value an immigrant life less than a citizen.  
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 3,840
    mrussel1 said:
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
    Yeah it wasn’t just an asshole comment to try and make people look bad when they want immigration reform. It wasn’t a sick comment that he/she doesn’t care.

    Except when conservatives talk about immigration reform, they're talking about structural racism.  Specifically, they want to pass laws to keep brown people out, make it difficult for brown people to become citizens after they are here, and give wypipo an excuse to treat all brown people like second class citizens.  

    The right isn't serious about immigration reform because they get a better return on investment by blowing the old dog whistle.

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 10,486
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
    Yeah it wasn’t just an asshole comment to try and make people look bad when they want immigration reform. It wasn’t a sick comment that he/she doesn’t care.
    You're drawing your own conclusions there.  It was self evident that he doesn't value an immigrant life less than a citizen.  
    Looks like I was right. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 9,930
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    I thought it was self-evident based on his historical posts.
    Yeah it wasn’t just an asshole comment to try and make people look bad when they want immigration reform. It wasn’t a sick comment that he/she doesn’t care.
    You're drawing your own conclusions there.  It was self evident that he doesn't value an immigrant life less than a citizen.  
    Looks like I was right. 
    Excellent.  Who were you arguing with?
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