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Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
edited September 2008 in Other Music
Okay..

tell me what i need to listen to to understand all this KOL hype please.
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    They are good. But I think the Hype > than reality.
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    cuz they are awesome. actually ignore that. im contributing to the ridiculous hype. just picked up the new album while trying to ignore the hype and love it.

    i will say that i didnt get them at all until i saw them live. i thought his voice was corny, but now i get it. shame about that dude's face though. ugly as hell.
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    12345AGNST112345AGNST1 Posts: 4,906
    I was gonna start a thread about this awhile ago but I just decided to post my thoughts on KOL in a thread here:http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=5864474#post5864474

    Never understood the hype. I think they sound pretty lame and look like douche bag emos in some of their pics.
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    12345AGNST1 wrote:
    I was gonna start a thread about this awhile ago but I just decided to post my thoughts on KOL in a thread here:http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?p=5864474#post5864474

    Never understood the hype. I think they sound pretty lame and look like douche bag emos in some of their pics.

    the lead singer plays the guitar all annoying and the guitarist on the left looks so annoying when he is playing but hey i better listen to their music.

    I watched them on jools holland and thought they were mediocre.
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    partyofonepartyofone Posts: 44
    Heh, I was just thinking the same thing.
    I find their songs to be pretty average, but then again, I've only heard a handful. I actually do like the singer's voice however.

    I forgot where, but one critic described KoL as, 'hipster music you don't have to feel guilty liking'...I think that kinda explains the hype? I dunno, I don't get it either.
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    wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 3,965
    We saw them open for PJ in Hawaii in 2006. Liked them and bought their album because of that, but were disappointed. I think they are just ok. :)
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    Red_DotRed_Dot Posts: 1,454
    They are great live.
    I love the first two albums and would highly recommend them (Youth & Young manhood, Aha Shake Heartbreak)
    I dont like the new album at all. I love KOL but do not understand the hype on this album at all.
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    dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,285
    I BrisK I wrote:
    Okay..

    tell me what i need to listen to to understand all this KOL hype please.
    Just listen to their music...any of it. Pick an album or a song and press play. The first 2 albums are where they started. The last 2 are where they are.

    It's not that difficult. Either you'll like or you won't. Despite what anyone says, they are quite unique; whether you like them or not, they are unique and for that reason, alone, they deserve all the praise that they get.
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    ZosoZoso Posts: 6,425
    recommend their first 3 albums their new one is pretty average to be honest. It has a few good songs (manhattan, cold desert, closer, crawl) but nothing like their first 3 albums. I would see them live again though they are good live.
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    surfanddestroysurfanddestroy Posts: 2,786
    I dont get them either, saw them a couple of years back at a festival and found them to be very bland.
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    HatredThrownDownHatredThrownDown Posts: 292
    dharma69 wrote:
    Just listen to their music...any of it. Pick an album or a song and press play. The first 2 albums are where they started. The last 2 are where they are.

    It's not that difficult. Either you'll like or you won't. Despite what anyone says, they are quite unique; whether you like them or not, they are unique and for that reason, alone, they deserve all the praise that they get.
    if you dont like it, you dont like it. dont force yourself. their live show is what sold it for me too. the new album is excellent in my opinion and i hope to see them again very soon.
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    stu geestu gee Posts: 1,174
    Just listen to them, if you like you like, you like, and if you dont, dont listen again. There is no hidden secret.
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    facepollutionfacepollution Posts: 6,834
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=SiHZxxBg0oU

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MeBIt7I2XpQ

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EzW3GJR98pE

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xE4VUnbZ5xM

    and maybe this one ;)http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ZG4_fOoNc
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    MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=duNcbab0Zng

    WATCH THAT. That is why everyone likes them. The energy, the lyrics, the garage-band-ness. Awesome.
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    Mike_Muse_RageMike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    I BrisK I wrote:
    the lead singer plays the guitar all annoying and the guitarist on the left looks so annoying when he is playing but hey i better listen to their music.

    I watched them on jools holland and thought they were mediocre.
    Same here. Also, the bassist has one of the worst bass tones and worst techniques I've ever seen. The guitarist looked like Matt Lucas and they all looked like they'd much rather be doing something else. All their songs sound... "flat" to me; lifeless.
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    South of SeattleSouth of Seattle West Seattle Posts: 10,708
    MattyJoe wrote:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=duNcbab0Zng

    WATCH THAT. That is why everyone likes them. The energy, the lyrics, the garage-band-ness. Awesome.

    You mean that's why people liked them. ;)

    I enjoy KOL a lot. Have all their records, am seeing them next month for the 4th time . . . but the live show is kinda boring and predictable. Also they're not the most entertaining live act to watch. Just my humble opinion.
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    pirlo21pirlo21 Posts: 534
    I try to avoid hype that surrounds any band or artist. I avoid reading reviews on shows and albums.
    I'd rather make my own mind up.

    As Public Enemy once said "Don't Believe The Hype"!
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    Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I've been a fan of KOL for about 5 years, the new album is not as representative of the original sound that got me into them originally. I still like the new album though.

    For me it's the lyrics and the voice that gets me into them... I've seen them live 4 times and they are good ....not great.
    IMO they need more audience interaction during their live sets.
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    azwyldcatsazwyldcats Posts: 698
    I BrisK I wrote:
    Okay..

    tell me what i need to listen to to understand all this KOL hype please.
    You are in the UK where they are popular. Listen to Black Thumbnail, Tranni, Use Somebody, Spiral Staircase, Fans, Wasted Time, Ragoo.
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    ?ing my education?ing my education Posts: 313
    I BrisK I wrote:
    Okay..

    tell me what i need to listen to to understand all this KOL hype please.

    Why? You obviously don't like them or don't find them that interesting. Why should anyone try to "help" you understand them.

    I personally really like them. I have been a fan since the first album came out and hardly anyone knew who they were. I have seen them live 8 or 9 times and every show was good. Not great, but good. Their image has changed and I could care less what the reasons are behind that. As long as they put out music I like, that's all that matters to me.

    There will always be haters.
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    Brisk.Brisk. Posts: 11,486
    ?ing my education wrote:
    Why? You obviously don't like them or don't find them that interesting. Why should anyone try to "help" you understand them.

    I personally really like them. I have been a fan since the first album came out and hardly anyone knew who they were. I have seen them live 8 or 9 times and every show was good. Not great, but good. Their image has changed and I could care less what the reasons are behind that. As long as they put out music I like, that's all that matters to me.

    There will always be haters.

    LOL i dont hate them, i just think they look annoying when they play but that can easily be overcome if they are good.

    I mean you want me to go on just 2 songs played on a tv show then thats cool but Im asking for albums to check out so i can actually make a decent opinion.
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    ?ing my education?ing my education Posts: 313
    I BrisK I wrote:
    LOL i dont hate them, i just think they look annoying when they play but that can easily be overcome if they are good.

    I mean you want me to go on just 2 songs played on a tv show then thats cool but Im asking for albums to check out so i can actually make a decent opinion.

    I didn't say you specifically, hate them, just pointing out there will always be haters and people who find a band, a team, a person that they don't like for whatever reason.

    And I didn't ask you to go on 2 songs you saw on TV to decide whether or not you like them. I could really care less if you like them or not.

    But if you are asking, so that you can make a decent opinion, just start from their first, Youth & Young Manhood, then Aha Shake Heartbreak, then their third Because of the Times.

    What pulled me into them, when I first heard Y&YM, I thought it was very raw and not like any band out at that time. His voice was different, not the best, but I liked that it was different, I thought they sounded different. With each album, I think they have grown and progressed in their sound and not tried to stay the same with each album. Some like that, some don't. I really liked their second and I though the third album was excellent! I am still listening to the new one, it is totally different from the others, I think the first 5 songs on the new album are very good.

    But hey, like you, that is just my opinion.
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:
    Same here. Also, the bassist has one of the worst bass tones and worst techniques I've ever seen. The guitarist looked like Matt Lucas and they all looked like they'd much rather be doing something else. All their songs sound... "flat" to me; lifeless.
    respectfully but completely disagree. bass is awesome


    i just like that dirty, southern rock feel. Them, Black Keys and early MMJ do it for me.
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    JonnyPistachioJonnyPistachio Florida Posts: 10,217
    I just think most of the songs sound the same.
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    Sian-of-the-deadSian-of-the-dead Posts: 8,963
    For me it's Caleb's voice... I just love it :o
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    Mike_Muse_RageMike_Muse_Rage Posts: 677
    MrSmith wrote:
    respectfully but completely disagree. bass is awesome


    i just like that dirty, southern rock feel. Them, Black Keys and early MMJ do it for me.
    I'm just going by what I saw. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the basslines, just the tone and technique. If you're going to play with a pick at least do it well. I always found it odd the amount of attention KOL got on this forum, especially since they're the "cool" band to like at the moment in the UK.
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    Brain Of EBrain Of E Posts: 499
    i've listened to 'because of the times' a few times but never really got into it.
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    dharma69dharma69 Posts: 1,285
    Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:
    I'm just going by what I saw. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the basslines, just the tone and technique. If you're going to play with a pick at least do it well. I always found it odd the amount of attention KOL got on this forum, especially since they're the "cool" band to like at the moment in the UK.
    Actually they're not "the cool band to like at the moment" in the UK.

    The UK's been all over KOL since their first album came out.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,286
    they fucking rock because i say so being a NY 'er i know it all and i'm allways right ;) plus if you don't get this band by now you never will .....so don't try
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    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Mike_Muse_Rage wrote:
    I'm just going by what I saw. I didn't say there was anything wrong with the basslines, just the tone and technique. If you're going to play with a pick at least do it well. I always found it odd the amount of attention KOL got on this forum, especially since they're the "cool" band to like at the moment in the UK.

    heh, i wish i lived in the UK. here the only bands that get huge are Nickelback and whiny emo shit.
    Brain Of E wrote:
    i've listened to 'because of the times' a few times but never really got into it.

    i was never really a big fan of that one either. love this one though.
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