Bedlam in Goliath...on my player...now!

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  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    I was looking forward to it, and listening through it, there are a lot of good moments througout. Especially track 3 through 5 are really good.

    But, to my ears, they are overdoing it. The almost complete lack of pauses or bouts of silence inbetween makes it all just mesh together for me when listening through all of it. Instead of buildup and climax, it sort of never goes down below just-before-climax, and Zavala stays most of the time at the top of his falsetto vocals. This was also the case on Amputechture. It's good and all, but my ears get all fatigued listening to it, and after a while, I never really feel like putting it on again. I fear this will be the case with this album too.

    I'd still like to see them go a bit back to the de-loused and frances days. And rediscover use of silence, or just not fill up every second with sound.

    But for this I'd rate the new album as a 4/6 perhaps? Good, but some ways off great.

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  • pjjj
    pjjj Posts: 43
    Yah, I wish they would do something like frances again that album was brilliant. Not giving up on this one until ive listened to it more, hopefully its better then amputechture.
  • rigneyclan
    rigneyclan Posts: 289
    pjjj wrote:
    Yah, I wish they would do something like frances again that album was brilliant.

    that's retarded.
    why should a band ever do the same thing twice. bands need to move forward and change, and that's exactly what The Mars Volta has done with Bedlam. They don't want to repeat themselves, and they shouldn't have to.

    IMO, Bedlam is their best album to date. And I'll even go as far as to call it best album of 2008.
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  • DaytimeDilemma
    DaytimeDilemma Posts: 2,008
    There is an audio interview with Omar on mp3.com where he says he wrote an hour long song and it was almost finished, but then he listend back to it and it sounded exactly like something on Frances. So he threw it out and started over.
  • OutOfBreath
    OutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    rigneyclan wrote:
    IMO, Bedlam is their best album to date. And I'll even go as far as to call it best album of 2008.
    Hehe, so would I, but there havent exaclty been many releases to compete with so far. :) Still a fan, but as I said, I wish they wouldn't cram so much into it. That's my opinion. I know many others love it. It's better than amputechture though.

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    Dan
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  • pjjj
    pjjj Posts: 43
    rigneyclan wrote:
    that's retarded.
    why should a band ever do the same thing twice. bands need to move forward and change, and that's exactly what The Mars Volta has done with Bedlam. They don't want to repeat themselves, and they shouldn't have to.

    IMO, Bedlam is their best album to date. And I'll even go as far as to call it best album of 2008.


    I dont know how you can say that bedlam is their best album to date when you've had all of two days to listen to it. And the best album of 08? its january.....

    Anyway what I meant by something like frances is by being brilliant and "epic", and everything fitting perfectly like frances, instead of the all over the place sound of amputechture.

    Bedlam is pretty good so far but I'm going to listen to it a bit more before I declare it their best and the best of the year.
  • GetALife
    GetALife Posts: 563
    Check this out:

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/mpd/permalink/mODP37S1LV6U0

    That's the original:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mnIzNY0DP4

    :)

    PS: Could anyone please make an mp3 of the song from the first link? That would be great...
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  • audiodave
    audiodave Posts: 1,623
    I got this album today and have listened to it a few times, and i'm really liking it. It's nice to have short songs, not that I don't love their long epics...but like others have said, it's good they aren't doing the same thing over and over.

    I for one really like Amputechture.
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  • Beav
    Beav Posts: 223
    I have been listening to TBIG all day every day for the last two weeks. At the moment I feel it's their best and the only one I can listen to all the way through and love every minute. I somewhat agree that it could use a little "space" here and there but I still love it. Hurry and reschedule the Columbus date!!!!!
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  • cubbieblue82
    cubbieblue82 Posts: 292
    Just picked this up over the weekend, and after listening through a few times I'm really liking it.

    Definitely different than their other albums, but that's typical for them. I can agree somewhat with what people are saying about overdoing it. There are some moments where there is just too much going on to really appreciate what they're doing.

    I've liked everything they put out so far, but I'd put this one ahead of Amp and probably less than Frances and Coma. It's to early to say how I'll like it in the long run though.

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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    I'm havinga hard time getting into this one. Perhaps it will grow on me.
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