Tool

Highway Girl
Highway Girl Posts: 10
edited January 2006 in Other Music
I like them. No wait I love them. I think besides Pearl Jam they are my favorite band. Maynard has a wonderful ability to make me feel... and usually (this might be hard to believe) Their music puts me into a good mood. I mean it takes me out of a rut. I love to sing while listening too... I would do Tool karaoke but it just doesn't seem like the type of music you would hear at a karaoke bar... My favorite album is Aenima, but I couldn't tell you what song is my favorite that album is good from front to back. Anyone else appreciate them? Or like A Perfect Circle Even? Please discuss... feel free...
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  • Six7Six7
    Six7Six7 Posts: 58
    Tool: Like them. Saw them 3 times. Aenima is their best album and was their best live show period. The lateralus shows weren't nearly as good and i don't think the album itself is very indicative of what they can do.

    A Perfect Circle: Love Them. Saw them 5 times, 3 with the first band, twice with the new incarnation. The first album and first band was better. They need Paz back. She's way more solid of a bass player than Jeordie. Plus she plays violin. Emotive sucked, and Thirteenth Step was good, but too heavily influenced musically by maynard. Billy need to take the band back and just make maynard sing like they did with the first album. Too much maynard = musical inferiority.
    Pearl Jam is an ok american rock n roll group
  • Highway Girl
    Highway Girl Posts: 10
    I didn't think that emotive sucked... but it wasn't as good as the thirteenth step that is for sure... I liked Mer de Nom.. but overall I will have to say Thirteenth Step takes the cake for me with them... The Noose is a masterpiece of a song it makes me want to do bad things... in a good way that is.

    I have yet to see tool...
    Here by my side, it's heaven.
  • Six7Six7
    Six7Six7 Posts: 58
    Highway Girl wrote:
    I didn't think that emotive sucked... but it wasn't as good as the thirteenth step that is for sure... I liked Mer de Nom.. but overall I will have to say Thirteenth Step takes the cake for me with them... The Noose is a masterpiece of a song it makes me want to do bad things... in a good way that is.

    I have yet to see tool...

    even if you paid to see Tool, you still wouldn't. Now they just stand in the dark and play you shitty 5 second animations on a loop on a massive video screen to hold your attention.

    No stage presense.

    Which is a shame, because they used to be all about stage presense. Now they are the rock equivilent of a dead fuck.
    Pearl Jam is an ok american rock n roll group
  • JamnPearl
    JamnPearl Posts: 204
    Six7Six7 wrote:
    Tool: Like them. Saw them 3 times. Aenima is their best album and was their best live show period. The lateralus shows weren't nearly as good and i don't think the album itself is very indicative of what they can do.

    Of course I disagree. Lateralus is my favorite album, and I enjoyed thier 01/02 tour regardless of how much they moved around. And besides, I have a Tool show from 96, and Maynard is the only moving around. The others just stand there, and they don't move any more than they do on some of my Lateralus tour dvds. In fact, Maynard moves around more on some of those dvds, than the dvd I have from 96. I can't wait to see them live, regardless of how much they move on the stage. The Grateful Dead don't run around the stage, but they are still awesome live.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Six7Six7 wrote:
    even if you paid to see Tool, you still wouldn't. Now they just stand in the dark and play you shitty 5 second animations on a loop on a massive video screen to hold your attention.

    No stage presense.

    Which is a shame, because they used to be all about stage presense. Now they are the rock equivilent of a dead fuck.

    have you heard the bonus track from salival? the one w/the interview w/ adam jones about how if you go to the show to see them whip their hair around you are missing the point....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    Tool is a pretty damn good band. I wish they would make more albums more frequantly that is my only complaint. At least when they do make one its really good.
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  • Six7Six7
    Six7Six7 Posts: 58
    El_Kabong wrote:
    have you heard the bonus track from salival? the one w/the interview w/ adam jones about how if you go to the show to see them whip their hair around you are missing the point....

    yeah, and i think Tool are a little full of themselves.

    Unless you go to Toolband.com every single week and read the books on their suggested reading list, you really don't know fuckall about what the songs are about anyway.

    So you'll have to excuse me if maybe i don't feel like doing 6 hours of research just to understand what the fuck maynard is talking about when he stands in the dark and refers to the "collective unconscious" a dozen times throughout the set.

    Play the damn music and give the people their money's worth, that is all i ask. and that doesn't mean you have to do fucking backflips. but at least pretend you want to be there.
    Pearl Jam is an ok american rock n roll group
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Six7Six7 wrote:
    yeah, and i think Tool are a little full of themselves.

    Unless you go to Toolband.com every single week and read the books on their suggested reading list, you really don't know fuckall about what the songs are about anyway.

    So you'll have to excuse me if maybe i don't feel like doing 6 hours of research just to understand what the fuck maynard is talking about when he stands in the dark and refers to the "collective unconscious" a dozen times throughout the set.

    Play the damn music and give the people their money's worth, that is all i ask. and that doesn't mean you have to do fucking backflips. but at least pretend you want to be there.


    well, i guess it all depends on what you want out of a show...as adam said in the interview; did him not thrashing hair around make the music any different? godspeed you black emperor don't have much interaction w/ the crowd during their shows and i still think they put on one of the best shows i've ever seen. they like being anonymous, nothing wrong w/ that....pink floyd wasn't running around being visible during their shows and they are considered one of the best live bands to see....

    and lastly, i don't need to read any books to know what a 'collective unconscious' is
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Highway Girl
    Highway Girl Posts: 10
    This thread got really sexy.

    And I hear Godspeed is excellent and they just play in the dark... I would like to see them for sure...
    Here by my side, it's heaven.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Highway Girl wrote:
    This thread got really sexy.

    And I hear Godspeed is excellent and they just play in the dark... I would like to see them for sure...

    it was pretty much dark...the place i saw them the stage was in like a cove type thing...so in front sorta and above was a wall where they played projections and short films looped and drawings, whatever....i think the only thing they said was 'good evening' and 'thank you, take care of yourselves and each other'
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Highway Girl
    Highway Girl Posts: 10
    El_Kabong wrote:
    it was pretty much dark...the place i saw them the stage was in like a cove type thing...so in front sorta and above was a wall where they played projections and short films looped and drawings, whatever....i think the only thing they said was 'good evening' and 'thank you, take care of yourselves and each other'


    Do they only play in Monteal?
    Here by my side, it's heaven.
  • 3manstack
    3manstack Posts: 205
    Errr am I missing something here, I have Salival and theres no bonus track on it or is there ? Is it hidden or something.

    Please fill me in Ive had it nearly 4 years and with most CDs I have Im usually aware of bonus tracks.

    Ta
  • JamnPearl
    JamnPearl Posts: 204
    El_Kabong wrote:
    ...pink floyd wasn't running around being visible during their shows and they are considered one of the best live bands to see....

    And the Grateful Dead as well. Most of those jam bands just stand there and play music. At least Tool has visuals, and it's not like Mayard never moves.
  • transplant
    transplant Posts: 1,088
    Six7Six7 wrote:
    even if you paid to see Tool, you still wouldn't. Now they just stand in the dark and play you shitty 5 second animations on a loop on a massive video screen to hold your attention.

    No stage presense.

    Which is a shame, because they used to be all about stage presense. Now they are the rock equivilent of a dead fuck.
    I thought I was the only one who felt this way. Biggest waste of $60.00 I ever spent and one of the worst shows I have ever seen.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    3manstack wrote:
    Errr am I missing something here, I have Salival and theres no bonus track on it or is there ? Is it hidden or something.

    Please fill me in Ive had it nearly 4 years and with most CDs I have Im usually aware of bonus tracks.

    Ta


    i dunno, i downloaded mine from a peer to peer network...it only said 9 - Bonus Track

    just checked a tool faq and it's nto an official part of the release
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • looneystyx
    looneystyx Posts: 3
    Highway Girl wrote:
    I think besides Pearl Jam they are my favorite band.

    I consider them my two favorite bands, with a couple more close behind. Being a great live band is key to me. I actually saw Tool 8 times (all on the Lateralus tour) before my first Pearl Jam concert. Sometimes I think back and try to remember what it was about Tool that made their shows so incredible because they're so different from PJ, and it's hard to explain. No, they don't interact with the crowd, Maynard says the same thing every night and now he just does his thing at the back of the stage in the dark, but they are similar in energy that they generate from the crowd. It's just an intense experience. One good thing about Maynard stepping back this last tour was that it brought the focus more to Danny who's just a monster on the drums.
    I only got to see APC once (opening for NIN) so I can't comment too much on their live show. They're decent based on the recordings I've seen. As far as their albums go, Mer de Noms was great but I'm not a big fan of Thirteenth Step.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Highway Girl wrote:
    Do they only play in Monteal?

    ha, they, and their side projects do play there a lot, but it is their home town so...when i saw them in '01 the closest they camewas 8 hrs away in ohio
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • JamnPearl
    JamnPearl Posts: 204
    looneystyx wrote:
    Maynard says the same thing every night

    I've got about 15 bootlegs or so from that tour...he doesn't say the same thing every night....at least not on the bootlegs I have lol.

    When you look at it, theres NO difference at all between the bands movement during earlier tours compared to the Lateralus tour. Maynard on earlier tours was right up front moving around in a small area, and on the Lateralus tour, hes moving around in the back in a small area.
  • MookieBlaylock5v1
    MookieBlaylock5v1 Posts: 353
    3manstack wrote:
    Errr am I missing something here, I have Salival and theres no bonus track on it or is there ? Is it hidden or something.

    Please fill me in Ive had it nearly 4 years and with most CDs I have Im usually aware of bonus tracks.

    Ta

    I don't have the interview on my Salival either.
    I do enjoy the hidden track after LAMC that's called "Maynard's Dick".

    (and LAMC is a laugh riot unto itself).


    ... oh yeah, and OPIATE rules all.
  • U-R
    U-R Posts: 223
    tool and apc: fucking adore both of them.

    started listening to tool around the time aenima came out but didn't see them on that tour, despite only being 13 at the time i'll forever regret not being there. did see them 3 times on the lateralus tour though, melbourne 2001, melbourne and adelaide 2002, and had the amazing good fortune of getting my hands on a backstage pass in adelaide. maynard is without compare and danny carey is just... danny carey, say no more

    aenima is the greatest album ever recorded, end of story, and needless to say untertow lateralus and opiate are classics also. thirteenth step is brilliant, even better than mer de noms, and apc were nothing short of breathtakingly beautiful live.

    i know better than to hold my breath waiting for the new tool album but nonetheless cannot wait to hear it
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