Tool

aborted

Lateralus is one of the greatest rock drum performance albums.

aborted

"Reflection" and "Ticks and Leaches" is amazing!

JamnPearl

Check out this if you haven't already-
http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=2522

Go down about halfway to the long post by Bruce.

rrivers

Six7Six7 wrote:

yeah, and i think Tool are a little full of themselves.

Unless you go to Toolband.com every single week and read the books on their suggested reading list, you really don't know fuckall about what the songs are about anyway.

So you'll have to excuse me if maybe i don't feel like doing 6 hours of research just to understand what the fuck maynard is talking about when he stands in the dark and refers to the "collective unconscious" a dozen times throughout the set.

Play the damn music and give the people their money's worth, that is all i ask. and that doesn't mean you have to do fucking backflips. but at least pretend you want to be there.

I don't know if they are full of themselves but I agree toolband.com is full of a lot of worthless shit. Just let me know when the album is coming out!

aborted

should come out sometime early 06, but that was just a rumor i herd.

JamnPearl

aborted wrote:

should come out sometime early 06, but that was just a rumor i herd.

That's what the band said on an online chat last month...

looneystyx

JamnPearl wrote:

I've got about 15 bootlegs or so from that tour...he doesn't say the same thing every night....at least not on the bootlegs I have lol.

He often did the thing where he'd call the city's name a couple of times, wait for everyone to cheer then say "Sounds more like <insert nearby city's name> to me."

Before Lateralus, he'd tell everyone to go home, curl up in front of the fire and masturbate to Caligula/softcore porn.

"See you on the other side"

The "think for yourself, question authority" speech followed by "never repeat what other people say" in the earlier legs of the tour.

Yeah, he sure did repeat himself a lot, when he spoke at all.

Don't get me wrong, I love the band and their shows. Making different random comments each night just isn't their thing.

Highway Girl

All bands do their own thing for their shows... I guess it is what you like or expect of them. I dont really care if they are jumping and running around... it is cool but not something I need. Being there live would be good enough for me. I mean I have seen APC and it was the loudest show I have ever been to and Maynard didnt do much... and it was awesome.

JamnPearl

On the Denver show I have, he talks about 2 guys opening up a Chuck E Cheeses kids place and he said if you take your ticket stub by you get a free lap dance lol

pipedreams

I love Tool and APC. Awesome musicians in both bands. Tool more heavy; APC more melodic but I dig both. Maynard is a genius although emotive was a brainfart. Aenima, Mer de Nom and 13th step are masterpieces. Haven't had a chance to see tool but I saw APC in Indy and I was very impressed. I agree the tool website is a worthless piece of shit and its just fuckin goofy. Whats up with the signed Lateralus vinyl, I gave up on it.

Goals for 2006
1) see PJ as often as possible
2) see Tool as often as possible
3) purchase a really good pair of headphones, smoke a fatty and listen to Aenima and 13th step.

Highway Girl

pipedreams wrote:

Goals for 2006
1) see PJ as often as possible
2) see Tool as often as possible
3) purchase a really good pair of headphones, smoke a fatty and listen to Aenima and 13th step.

Those are sweet goals. I think those will be my goals as well if you don't mind sharing...

pj_zombie

pipedreams wrote:

3) purchase a really good pair of headphones, smoke a fatty and listen to Aenima and 13th step.

I don't think you need to wait until 2006 for that one, do you?

pipedreams

Highway Girl wrote:

Those are sweet goals. I think those will be my goals as well if you don't mind sharing...

Definitely don't mind sharing. The more the merrier.

pipedreams

pj_zombie wrote:

I don't think you need to wait until 2006 for that one, do you?

Still recovering from Canada and Philly and and too many recent PJ poster purchases. But your right, plan on making hints to the wife for a Christmas present. Announced Tool dates in Raleigh and Charlotte would be a nice Christmas present also.

mookie blaylock 10

absolutely love tool and they're at the top of my list of bands to see next. i love a perfect circle too, and was fortunate enough to see them live a few years ago...excellent show...probably one of the tightest bands i've seen. the drummer was unbelievable! maynard was unbelievable! i don't know if i could handle tool now that i think about it...wait a minute...bring them on! i really hope to catch them sometime, maybe more than once.

edit...just read through the thread and thought i would add that, for me, undertow is my fave. they are all pretty close. i started listening to them with opiate, but undertow was the one that really got me hooked. i think that's why it's still my fave. they're all classics though.

JamnPearl

pipedreams wrote:

Still recovering from Canada and Philly and and too many recent PJ poster purchases. But your right, plan on making hints to the wife for a Christmas present. Announced Tool dates in Raleigh and Charlotte would be a nice Christmas present also.

Where in NC do you live?

pipedreams

JamnPearl wrote:

Where in NC do you live?

Winston-Salem

rrivers

JamnPearl wrote:

That's what the band said on an online chat last month...

Is there a transcript of the chat somewhere?

VINNY GOOMBA

Six7Six7 wrote:

yeah, and i think Tool are a little full of themselves.

Unless you go to Toolband.com every single week and read the books on their suggested reading list, you really don't know fuckall about what the songs are about anyway.

So you'll have to excuse me if maybe i don't feel like doing 6 hours of research just to understand what the fuck maynard is talking about when he stands in the dark and refers to the "collective unconscious" a dozen times throughout the set.

Play the damn music and give the people their money's worth, that is all i ask. and that doesn't mean you have to do fucking backflips. but at least pretend you want to be there.

I hear ya. What's with all the extra homework to fully "get" a song or an album? There's nothing wrong with having someone else's influence in your own art, but after a while it can get a little ridiculous when your songs need cliff notes and a bibliography.

Tool's website is horrendous. Someone punch that fuckin Blair guy in his face and tell him to shut the fuck up already.

I do love Tool and APC... I've seen both of them twice. I liked APC's show on the 13th Step Tour the best out of all those four... Funny thing is, I wasn't really familiar with the 13th step at that point, i had heard it, but didn't own it or really give it a good listen yet. I enjoy Tool's stage show, it's a bugout. Only thing is, twice in a tour is more than enough... I looked at their setlists and I was lucky to get 3 songs varying between the two shows. Most of their setlists barely change... not even the order.

Aenima is the greatest Tool Album, 13th Step is my favorite APC.

Bottom line, Pearl Jam is my standard for anything music related-- other bands, my own music, how my band goes about doing things... It's just so hard to compare to those guys. They do everything so damn good from making music, touring, maintaining integrity, changing up setlists, their sound, and their relationship with their fans.

I'm not a huge fan of the politics at the shows (though I really don't mind it, just don't enjoy it either)... so I just shrug that off all together because of how many other things that Pearl Jam does well.

And that's why it's easy to be critical of other great bands like Tool-- we're spoiled by PJ, and I fuckin love it.

rrivers

VINNY GOOMBA wrote:

I hear ya. What's with all the extra homework to fully "get" a song or an album? There's nothing wrong with having someone else's influence in your own art, but after a while it can get a little ridiculous when your songs need cliff notes and a bibliography.

Tool's website is horrendous. Someone punch that fuckin Blair guy in his face and tell him to shut the fuck up already.

I do love Tool and APC... I've seen both of them twice. I liked APC's show on the 13th Step Tour the best out of all those four... Funny thing is, I wasn't really familiar with the 13th step at that point, i had heard it, but didn't own it or really give it a good listen yet. I enjoy Tool's stage show, it's a bugout. Only thing is, twice in a tour is more than enough... I looked at their setlists and I was lucky to get 3 songs varying between the two shows. Most of their setlists barely change... not even the order.

Aenima is the greatest Tool Album, 13th Step is my favorite APC.

Bottom line, Pearl Jam is my standard for anything music related-- other bands, my own music, how my band goes about doing things... It's just so hard to compare to those guys. They do everything so damn good from making music, touring, maintaining integrity, changing up setlists, their sound, and their relationship with their fans.

I'm not a huge fan of the politics at the shows (though I really don't mind it, just don't enjoy it either)... so I just shrug that off all together because of how many other things that Pearl Jam does well.

And that's why it's easy to be critical of other great bands like Tool-- we're spoiled by PJ, and I fuckin love it.

Well said.

The vast majority of the stuff at Tool's website should be in the link section, meaning that if I wanted information about some obscure band playing somewhere I can check there. When I go to the main page of a band's website, I want to see something about the band and not have to sift through bullshit to get it.

I'd say they should post the transcript to the chat on the website but I don't have a PhD and CIA training to be able to decipher what they would post.