What was the actuall reason Dave A was fired?

ACCBootlegGoddess wrote:

Hmm if thats the case then why does the master still have a job huh??? (besides the fact that he is a guitar God).

He was an admitted drug addict and alcoholic until January 2000. (He told me when I met him at the Key in Dec 2002 that he has been sober for 11 months and so many days...forget exact amount of days).

If Dave A was on drugs I don't think that was the main reason for his firing or Mikey woulda been gone too.

It really doesn't matter now...its been 15 years let it go people!

Besides Matt Cameron is a WAAAAAAAY better drummer than Dave A.

All Hail Matt Cameron!!!!!

Stone Irons wrote:

This is what is said in Spin's "Ten Past Ten" article:

DAVE ABBRUZZESE: I just thought that was ridiculous. I liked where we started out, I liked the notion of going out and playing for ten bucks a show and selling shirts and doing all these things inexpensively and keeping integrity. But, you know, you don't sacrifice the fucking music that you make. When I got fired, I thought I was meeting with Stone to talk about working with [U2 producer] Daniel Lanois. I was thinking, man, we should work with somebody who'll take this band somewhere and let us be magical rather than go drag our feet and just poop out some records. We could take a shit on a piece of styrofoam and people would buy 2 million before they smelled it. So let's go make something amazing.

DAVE ABBRUZZESE: Stone would kind of be the bridge of everyone's gap. When he stopped taking that role, the music changed, and [the band] became a less communicative, more whispery place.

BRENDAN O'BRIEN: And Dave Abbruzzese, for whatever reason, he and Eddie didn't get along.

DAVE ABBRUZZESE: I felt like there was a time when I had a good friendship with that guy. And then all of a sudden I didn't know him. But I understand—shit, if I was freaking out about stuff and having panic attacks, I can't even begin to fathom what the hell he was going through. I give it up to him just for surviving it.

KELLY CURTIS: There was definitely a difference in philosophies. Politics, pro-choice, anti-gun, respect for women, all of that stuff. The responsibilities of being a member of PJ and what message that sends.

JEFF AMENT: Dave was a different egg for sure. There were a lot of things, personality wise, where I didn't see eye to eye with him. He was more comfortable being a rock star than the rest of us. Partying, girls, cars. I don't know if anyone was in the same space. Also, with Dave, musically, when you'd say, "I want this to sound more like the Buzzcocks," I don't think he related to that at all. He was a technical guy, and we all played by feeling, or by seeing bands.

STONE GOSSARD: It was the nature of how the politics worked in our band: It was up to me to say, "Hey, we tried, it's not working; time to move on." On a superficial level, it was a political struggle: For whatever reason his ability to communicate with Ed and Jeff was very stifled. I certainly don't think it was all Dave Abrruzzese's fault that it was stifled.

DAVE ABRUZZESE: Stone showed up as a man, and as a good friend. I hope to one day tell him how much I appreciate [that]. I had just soured. I didn't really agree with what was going on. I didn't agree with the Ticketmaster stuff at all. But I don't blame anyone or harbor any hard feelings. I'd be lying if I said I wasn't furious and hurt for a long time. But now I just wish there was more music from the band I was a part of.

STONE GOSSARD: Jack entered the band right at the end of making Vitalogy. Jack's a breath of fresh air, a family man. Everybody had a strong sense of friendship with him immediately. He was just there to play drums and help out.

Source: http://www.fivehorizons.com/archive/articles/spin801.shtml

suppafreak wrote:

Thanks! Awesome post

Murderers wrote:

I know he had a couple of guns that Ed really didn't like, and that he disagreed with the ticketmaster boycott, etc...but when it came down to it was there a specific reason he was fired?

Brain Of E wrote:

After they made their first million dollars, Ed didn't want the guys to buy any expensive stuff, at least until the heat was off from the robbery. When they got together to celebrate at a bar, Dave showed up in a new pink cadillac that he just bought for his wife and Eddie was like, "What the fuck, I thought I told you not to go buying anything expensive?" To which Dave replied, "It's Ok, it's in my mother's name, it's a wedding gift." Ed was none too pleased, so he kicked his ass out of the party and told him to return it. The next morning Dave and his new wife were found wacked in the cadillac by by some neighborhood kids.

hobbes wrote:

ed was a pissy little bitch back then.

Brain Of E wrote:

After they made their first million dollars, Ed didn't want the guys to buy any expensive stuff, at least until the heat was off from the robbery. When they got together to celebrate at a bar, Dave showed up in a new pink cadillac that he just bought for his wife and Eddie was like, "What the fuck, I thought I told you not to go buying anything expensive?" To which Dave replied, "It's Ok, it's in my mother's name, it's a wedding gift." Ed was none too pleased, so he kicked his ass out of the party and told him to return it. The next morning Dave and his new wife were found wacked in the cadillac by by some neighborhood kids.