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            applenut wrote:There are several million "pretty good guitarists". It means absolutely nothing.
 So if you want to say Eddie is a better songwriter because he is a better mediocre guitarist than another songwriter than....well... that's a pathetic argument.
 From what you write, it's clear you have little grasp of Bono's writing.
 I never said Ed being a better guitarist had anything to do with him being a better songwriter. That's just your own fabricated stupidty. I have a grasp on Bono's songwriting and I don't like it. Get over it and go listen to U2 if it gets your rocks off."The Wild is chasing after me. Hot on my trail won't leave me alone. All I can see is your blood right in front of me, and I can't kill The Wild." Me0
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            I love Pearl Jam 
 I love U2 
 I love Bruce 
 ( not necc in that order )
 While they all are different ;
 they all are great .
 They also all have developed that special , feel good relationship with their fanbase(s)For the ones who had a notion, a notion deep inside
 That it ain't no sin to be glad you're alive 
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            this sounds more interesting if it was Pearl Jam
 Are Virtual U2 Concerts Even Better Than The Real Thing?
 06.26.2006 6:35 PM EDT
 Tech-savvy superfans set up elaborate gigs starring their favorite
 band for online gamers.
 There are some key rules for attendees of a virtual U2 concert. Among
 them:
 "No hoochie hair" ("So that this concert may be enjoyed by the
 maximum number of people").
 "No particle poofs or particles of any kind."
 And ... "DO NOT IM the band while the concert is in progress."
 Failure to obey these edicts doesn't get anyone physically kicked out
 because no one is really at the concert. It's all taking place
 through computers: a massively multiplayer musical experience created
 and enjoyed by people logging into the virtual world "Second Life"
 Since last year, a small group of players has taken advantage of the
 blank slate and creative flexibility of "Second Life" to create the
 stage sets, the bodies and the moves of their favorite band: U2.
 They've helped pioneer the concept of virtual concerts — shows that
 are attended not at a stadium or club but in front of a monitor and
 keyboard.
 Since 2005, four members of the U2inSL crew (U2inSL.com), living in
 locations as distant as California, Connecticut and Germany, have
 logged onto their computers and into the shared landscape of "Second
 Life" in order to steer digital replicas of Bono, the Edge, Adam
 Clayton and Larry Mullen Jr. Running their characters through a
 series of stage moves and piping in audio recorded from an actual
 concert, they are able to create a virtual performance. Other "Second
 Life" citizens can attend as members of a character-packed audience.
 The anonymous players behind the virtual band said they've tried to
 contact U2 management to make sure this is all OK. They're not making
 any money off of it, and they adorn their concert area with signs
 urging people to donate to the real U2's One Foundation charity. But
 the real band has yet to respond. U2 management also did not comment
 on the virtual U2 for MTV News.
 A virtual — and unauthorized — U2 might be the most provocative
 example, but independent musicians and big-label acts are also
 getting involved, potentially making multiplayer video game worlds
 the next frontier of touring. Musicians can channel audio into game
 worlds and set up characters to be their puppet personas — a way to
 go on tour without leaving their keyboard, be they the "SL" musician
 Frogg Marlowe or, if Universal Music's official plans continue to
 take shape, Chamillionaire and the rock band Hinder.
 "It's really a rush, like being in a real-world concert," the virtual
 Bono told MTV News. The members of U2inSL prefer not to use their
 real names in public "to keep the mystique and excitement," according
 to the unreal Bono. "This is role-play after all."
 The group gathered for a concert this past weekend after two months
 of inactivity due to an injury suffered by one of the members. In
 April, MTV News attended a small invitation-only concert where the
 U2inSL crew provided an education on how a virtual concert works.
 Physically it requires nothing more than logging onto a computer
 running "Second Life" and digitally walking — or flying — to the
 concert's location. In April, that locale was a tropical island
 called Dragon Moon. The concert organizers can block unwanted guests
 by requiring a digital ticket, without which an approaching player
 will see their character run into an invisible wall.
 Before the April concert began, the virtual bandmembers hung out in
 the band room. "Second Life" doesn't support voice chat, so Bono was
 text-chatting with the Edge.
 Next to their building was a large concert stage. On the far side
 were two porta-potties. The concert area was about 100 virtual feet
 from the edge of a beach, the stage facing the water. Behind the
 audience pit, just out of reach of a lapping tide, was a concession
 stand, a T-shirt booth and a bar. A mouse click on those spots would
 generate virtual hot dogs and beer or a U2 outfit that can be zapped
 onto a character's body.
 "Second Life" is different than other massively multiplayer games
 like "World of Warcraft" and "EverQuest," not just because it doesn't
 actually contain any game-oriented goal but because it allows players
 to create everything in the world. Players can create characters that
 look like monsters, supermodels, Bono or whatever else they can think
 of while messing with the program's modeling tools.
 Everything a player creates is stored on servers at "Second Life"'s
 parent company, Linden Labs, and has to be transmitted back out to
 any other players who would need to see it, say, because they're
 walking past the Bono character or watching him perform onstage. This
 presents a problem if too many people are standing around in the game
 trying to watch Bono at the same time. The Linden Labs server begins
 to feel the strain of sending the same graphics out to more and more
 attendees. So if too many people come to a virtual concert in "Second
 Life," the world is going to stutter. Popularity can cause a slowdown.
 That didn't happen during the April concert, in part because people
 followed the rules. The ban on "hoochie hair" and "particles" was
 really a ban on attendees bringing graphically elaborate hairdos and
 special effects that would put more strain on Linden Labs' servers.
 Until the audio feed is activated, the virtual concert is practically
 silent. But once it was on, the band "played" a 14-track set, which
 included streamed audio of the real U2 playing "Vertigo," "Elevation"
 and "Where the Streets Have No Name."
 The final cued track of the evening was real-life crowd applause. The
 members of U2inSL don't have to sing, but they have to make sure
 their characters hit their marks and make the appropriate motions
 (hold microphone to mouth, throw arms in the air, spin around, etc.)
 "I rehearse steady for about a week," the fake Bono told MTV News.
 The concert in April went smoothly, though not without at least one
 kink. "I missed hopping at the keyboard for 'Miss Sarajevo,' " the
 virtual Edge confessed.
 A "Second Life" concert is an odd place. A mysterious object in front
 of the stage proves, with a curious mouse click, to be a dance
 machine. It immediately causes the player's character to start
 dancing with energetic spasms. Anyone else clicking winds up with
 their character also dancing, in perfect unison with everyone else.
 Dancing doesn't take any sustained effort. It just happens — and
 keeps happening long after some of the people too busy text-chatting
 remember they're still doing it. It's all done with computers, after
 all.
 After the April concert, the fake Bono demonstrated how a few mouse
 clicks can generate a complete wardrobe change. But those Linden Labs
 servers aren't so fast that one shirt just swaps for another. " 'Zip'
 ain't a word when changing clothes," he said, as a red-and-black
 tunic faded in to replace a black leather jacket.
 Another weird touch: People wanted to hug goodbye, but one of them
 hadn't set his character up properly to do it: "Sorry, dear, took hug
 attachment off. I'll have to dig it out of inventory later," he
 responded.
 Virtual concerts — even better than the real thing? Well, a bit
 different at least.
 — Stephen TotiloFor the ones who had a notion, a notion deep inside
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            Always intriged by the idea of a new U2 album, although the end product often doesn't really grab me.
 And to everyone bashing Binaural and Riot Act in a thread that has nothing to do with Pearl Jam, go blow yourselves. Thanks! 0 0
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            applenut wrote:With all due respect to Eddie and Pearl Jam but they are not amazing lyricist. I don't think they ever claim to be either. Their writing is perhaps the weakest part of the band. Their "protest songs" and anti-bush/war songs could be written by a grade school student. Neil Young showed with Living with War how to write a real antiwar/bush album. Pearl Jam were given a strong lesson in song writing.
 Bono is a significantly better songwriter than anyone in PearlJam. The last Pearl Jam album that had strongly written emotional content all the way through was Ten. Every album since has had lyrical highlights sporadically sprinkled throughout.
 Also, claiming Eddie is a superior "musician" is just stupid. When did musicianship become a competition? From my perspective they both pretty much suck at guitar and anything else they play. They are singers and songwriters. Bono has written so many good songs that they probably outnumber every song Eddie has ever written... good and bad.
 See, you called someone else for entering a thread to bash U2, which was fair enough. It does beg the question, though ... Why are you on this board? You don't sound like a Pearl Jam fan, at all.0
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            Red Dot, hey foxymophandlemama that's me, pry to, help help, and sleight of hand trump anything U2 has ever done0
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            An uncanny resemblance to Bono is paying off -- in some strange ways
 for one man. asap's CHELSEA J. CARTER spends some time with the man
 who would be Bono.
 Rob Kemp does a double-take. Then he does a triple-take.
 Bono? The lead singer of the biggest band in the world, U2?
 He races up and introduces himself, shaking his hand and rattling off
 his adoration at a mile-a-minute pace.
 Kemp, 23, doesn't notice that the man has no Irish accent. Or that
 he's carrying his own bag down the street. All Kemp of Abbotsford,
 Canada, sees is the legendary singer -- from the straw hat to the
 glasses to the jacket.
 "I'm not Bono," the man says.
 This is the man who would be Bono. asap spent some time with Bono
 impersonator Geoffrey Knight -- a man who is such a ringer for the
 rock star that he eclipses other look-a-likes, and we found out that
 adoration comes in all forms, including human form.
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 BECOMING BONO
 Knight, 32, a long time U2 fan, came to Bono late in life. It began
 with a U2 concert in Seattle when his wife encouraged him to wear a
 pair of sunglasses, which he says looked nothing like the ones that
 Bono is famous for wearing.
 "You know how people stare at you, and you get this feeling in the
 back of your head that someone is looking at you?" Knight said.
 Stares -- they happened during the concert and again at the
 merchandise stand.
 "This one girl had a little bit too much to drink, and she wrapped her
 arms around me. And then she stepped back and said 'You're not him,'"
 he said.
 But it was a trip to Ireland to see a U2 concert a few months later in
 June 2005 that set him on his path to becoming Bono. In Dublin, where
 Bono can be seen sometimes walking the streets, the people who live
 there did more than a double-take. Some of them approached him.
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 BEING BONO
 It started when he returned to Washington and related the experience
 to a friend, who in turn told him that celebrity impersonators can
 make a lot of money. Out of curiosity, Knight said, he logged on and
 looked at a few Bono impersonator sites. None of the impersonators
 looked a lot like Bono, he says.
 Most people emulate their idols earlier in life, with their choice of
 clothing or a hairstyle. Sometimes they replicate a celebrity's tattoo
 or adopt their nickname. But Knight had never subscribed to that. He
 was a guy who liked the music, the man and the man's message about
 helping those less fortunate.
 Knight sent some pictures of himself to an impersonation Web site. A
 month later, Boston radio station Mix 98.5 FM contacted him -- and
 flew him out to do promotions for the station in the days leading up
 to a U2 concert.
 For a few days, Knight lived like a rock star. He took no money for
 the gig but did enjoy the perks -- from the use of limo to a suite in
 an upscale hotel.
 "I would pop my head up out of the limousine. It was like magnet. The
 limo couldn't move and people were asking to take their pictures," he
 said.
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 LIVING BONO
 There is little about Knight's personal life that resembles the rock
 star. Knight and his wife own a Pilates studio in the sleepy
 university town of Bellingham; Bono owns several houses, globe trots
 for social causes and, of course, fronts the biggest rock band in the
 world.
 But Knight does believe in some of Bono's causes, such as "One: The
 Campaign To Make Poverty History. He donates most of the money he
 makes as a look-a-like to One, and lent his Bono-likeness to a video
 produced by his daughter, who was promoting the campaign at her school.
 Being Bono has become a family affair as well.
 His wife manages his impersonation career and keeps an eye on his
 wardrobe. His daughter helps him keep up with the latest Bono news,
 and Knight studies recent photos of Bono to keep up with his appearance.
 There's also the clothing and accessory price tag. A pair of designer
 sunglasses can run upward of $500 to $1,000, and the getting a custom
 hat made can cost hundreds of dollars.
 "I'm so good at holding up the morale end of the package. I don't try
 to abuse this thing, this gift I guess you can call it," Knight said.
 "I was born this way. I don't have any Irish in me at all. So yes, I
 guess it's a gift."
 Their are a few physical challenges to impersonating the rock star.
 "He has terrible posture. I would love to get him in a Pilates
 studio," Knight said.
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            THE world's richest countries are falling short on pledges made to
 Africa a year ago on providing life-saving AIDS drugs, expanding trade
 and boosting aid, said activist rock star Bono.
 Bono and fellow Irish rocker Bob Geldof have used their fame to fuel a
 global campaign for more aid to Africa, organising Live 8 concerts
 around the world last year to press Group of Eight industrial leaders
 meeting in Gleneagles, Scotland, to wipe out poverty.
 "They started to climb an Everest but over the past year they got lost
 at base camp," Bono said in an interview after the release of a
 progress report by his lobby group Debt, AIDS, Trade, Africa group, or
 DATA.
 "I'd like to think that the DATA report is a kind of a GPS system for
 how to get back on track and back up the mountain," said Bono, who
 formed DATA with Geldof.
 The report said wealthy countries had delivered on their promise to
 cancel the debts of 19 poor countries, most of them in Africa, with a
 total of 44 countries eligible under programs of the International
 Monetary Fund and World Bank.
 "Overall, there is one cheer on debt, half a cheer on AIDS and boos
 and wolf-whistles for what is happening on trade," Bono said.
 The report said relief from burdensome debt payments in Cameroon,
 Mozambique, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia has already swelled spending
 on education, health and the battle against HIV/AIDS.For the ones who had a notion, a notion deep inside
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            i am a huge fan of both pearl jam and U2, but the idea that pearl jam or eddie is a better song writer then bono is just wrong. there are some songs that i love from eddie and co and there are songs from u2 that i love. just compare one song from bono and co abotu addictions and eddie and co about the same thing. U2 has BAD while Pearl jam has habit. i personally rank Bad as a better song. on teh other hand, i think that Given to fly is way better than say Beautiful day. some songs are better then others. let just say that one band is not always better then another.0
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            StrangestTribe wrote:*sigh*
 another band that just dosn't know when enough is enough.
 Wouldn't we all be happier if U2, Metallica, Aerosmith and The Rolling Stones
 stoped making music?
 Unlike pearl jam, some bands can not keep up with the quality of music they made when they were younger.
 Whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're implying Riot Act and Avocado compare to Ten and Vs.? Pearl Jam's not the same, sorry to break it to you. Still amazing, and the live shows are incredible... but not the same quality.Current Favorite PJ Studio Albums:
 1) Vitalogy
 2) Yield
 3) Ten
 4) No Code
 5) Riot Act
 6) Vs.
 7) Pearl Jam
 8) Binaural0
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            jammin1586 wrote:Whoa, whoa, whoa. So you're implying Riot Act and Avocado compare to Ten and Vs.? Pearl Jam's not the same, sorry to break it to you. Still amazing, and the live shows are incredible... but not the same quality.
 I disagree. I think Avocado is as good as anything that PJ have ever done. It just shows that bands can still come up with the goods 10 or 15 years after their first record - Bono and U2 should remember that and stop releasing the same regurgitated crap on every record. Pop was their last real record in 1997"...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."0
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            edved82 wrote:I disagree. I think Avocado is as good as anything that PJ have ever done. It just shows that bands can still come up with the goods 10 or 15 years after their first record - Bono and U2 should remember that and stop releasing the same regurgitated crap on every record. Pop was their last real record in 1997
 Pearl Jam put out 2 crap albums (Binaural and Riot) before they were even 10 years old.
 You cna't compare catalogs. It's simply stupid.0
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            applenut wrote:Pearl Jam put out 2 crap albums (Binaural and Riot) before they were even 10 years old.
 You cna't compare catalogs. It's simply stupid.
 i think both binaural and riot act crap all over U2 albums like Unforgettable Fire and Zooropa. You cant compare catalogues cos PJ have never put out a bad album. Bono recently said that U2 would continue till they put out three bad records in a row - they'd better do somethin good with the next one"...though my problems are meaningless....that don't make them go away...."0
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            I'm guessing with all the sales, sweep of the Grammy's, completely sold out world tour and critical accolades, Bono and co. don't look at HTDAAB as a "bad record".This weekend we rock Portland0
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            edved82 wrote:i think both binaural and riot act crap all over U2 albums like Unforgettable Fire and Zooropa. You cant compare catalogues cos PJ have never put out a bad album. Bono recently said that U2 would continue till they put out three bad records in a row - they'd better do somethin good with the next one
 Your Pearl Jam bias hurts your argument.
 No one outside of this forum agrees with you.0
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            I have a soft spot for the Unforgettable Fire, because it has such a cheesy 80s sound to it ... Memories ...0
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            not too many bands could pull of an album like zooropa....have to give them props 4 sure....The wind is blowing cold
 Have we lost our way tonight?
 Have we lost our hope to sorrow?
 Feels like were all alone
 Running further from what’s right
 And there are no more heroes to follow
 So what are we becoming?
 Where did we go wrong?0
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            edved82 wrote:I disagree. I think Avocado is as good as anything that PJ have ever done. It just shows that bands can still come up with the goods 10 or 15 years after their first record - Bono and U2 should remember that and stop releasing the same regurgitated crap on every record. Pop was their last real record in 1997
 which was released 10-15 years after their first record. then they returned to their roots for the next two albums.
 pearl jam, at 10-15 years after their first record, released 2 albums that were a bit weird and idiosynchratic (like zooropa and pop) before returning to their roots (even stone has said there's nothing new on the latest album) with avacado.
 it's the same career arc.0
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            A Surprise Left wrote:not too many bands could pull of an album like zooropa....have to give them props 4 sure....
 That's very true...I think it's a masterpiece and sadly it is often either overlooked or bashed quite too much.
 I also think that soulsinging has a very good point...although, even though I do love all of U2's stuff, I'm looking for something a bit different on the next one, maybe a bit more atmospheric than their last few outings.I've faced it, a life wasted, and I'm never going back again.
 Some die just to live.0
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            Rare Recording Featuring Three-Fourths of U2 for Sale
 Message from 1981 described as 'fresh and relevant'
 @U2, July 03, 2006
 by Scott Calhoun
 A company in Littlehampton, England, offering an eclectic line of
 products, from holiday packages to financial advising to books and CDs,
 is selling copies of a presentation Bono, the Edge and Larry Mullen Jr.
 made 25 years ago to a weekend retreat for Christian musicians.
 Dream Depot advertises its U2's Vision CD as a "never before available"
 recording. Its Web site says: "Be inspired by Bono, the Edge and Larry
 talking about the spiritual roots of U2 at a music seminar in 1981.
 Drawing heavily on Old Testament prophets, they explain their vision
 for the band and sound a warning to the Christian music scene."
 The January 1981 retreat was held at the Gaines Christian Center in
 Worcester, England, and organized by Laurie Mellor as a Ghettout Music
 event. Mellor started Ghettout Music in 1980 as a recording and
 management company for motivating Christian musicians to leave the
 Christian music sub-culture behind for the mainstream music world.
 Now a director of Dream Depot, Mellor said he met Bono, Edge, and Larry
 in the summer of 1980, just prior to the release of U2's debut album,
 Boy. After getting to know them later that year, he asked them to come
 speak at his retreat.
 "I invited the band because I felt their presence would be
 inspirational, and so it proved," Mellor said. "The invitation to speak
 was accepted at once, and I believe the three felt their presence was
 very beneficial."
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