Stone, Hetfield or Keef ?

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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    That's not really what I meant. Morello invented (or at least popularized and capitalized on) some really cool techniques - which was great. He deserves to be remembered for it. But that doesn't put him in the same leauge as Hendrix or Page (among others). They're remembered not only for the great music and amazing musicianship, but for influence.

    If Morello would actually utilize his potential and venture outside of the same 5th and 7th fret cock rock and tired, fifteen year old tricks he could leave a real legacy.

    i get what you meant now. thanks for that. :)
  • Pearl Jam and toast
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    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    i get what you meant now. thanks for that. :)
    *tips hat* :)
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  • LukinFan
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    stone because of his haircut
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  • lucylespian
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    Pj_Gurl wrote:
    The exchange rate is not too shabby at the moment. You could get one for around $11k.

    Go on. You know you want too! Awesome christmas present! :)

    True. I will be in the US in about 6 weeks, so I'm going to try one and haggle if the price is right, maybe.
    I really want to update my audio gear next though. My stereo is a pretty sad collection of parts, and I want some new speakers, Bowers and Wilkinson, and maybe a turntable. I'm starting to hanker for vinyl, sick I know.
    My guitar gear collection is in pretty good shape at present and does not need adding to really. I will be getting a new wah though, a tremolo for The Immigrant Song and maybe a couple of crazy ZVEX pedals. HAve to buy some stash while in LA, would be a bleeding crime not to.
    Spent a couple of hours tonight hammering some KEA riffs. Got teh wifey the drum tab book, gave it to her today, so we will be playing Motorbreath and Am I Evil tomorow, woohoo !!!!!
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    speaking of Metallica, I got the newest Guitar World magazine in the mail yesterday. Hammett is on the cover. he has a Randall signature amp coming out now. it has some kind of modules you can take out and replace with different ones. he said there are also blues and jazz modules, etc. so he can play blues with friends and then go to Metallica rehearsal and put in his signature modules and play Metallica songs with the same amp. basically, this amp is supposed to have his clean sound, rhythm sound, and lead sound. it looks pretty good, but some Randall's are overpriced and it looks like this one probably will be too. but with a Mesa, I don't think you'd need a Randall to get his sound.
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    MLC2006 wrote:
    speaking of Metallica, I got the newest Guitar World magazine in the mail yesterday. Hammett is on the cover. he has a Randall signature amp coming out now. it has some kind of modules you can take out and replace with different ones. he said there are also blues and jazz modules, etc. so he can play blues with friends and then go to Metallica rehearsal and put in his signature modules and play Metallica songs with the same amp. basically, this amp is supposed to have his clean sound, rhythm sound, and lead sound. it looks pretty good, but some Randall's are overpriced and it looks like this one probably will be too. but with a Mesa, I don't think you'd need a Randall to get his sound.

    Yeah, I have heard about that head. It sounds good in principle. In reality, anything even vaguely gimicky has a very short acceptance and lifespan, so it will be like digital modelling. It will have it's fans, but I can't see it going far. Mind you, they said that about television too.
    I get Kirk's kind of tone pretty well I suppose, but I don't actually try and cop tones TBH. I get in the ball park with something I like at a similar gain style wiht all music I play. Often I will play something in a different tone to change it around anyway. I probably do that a lot.
    The guitar and pups have a lot ot do with his tone, and I get the cut and the feedbackand the microphonic honks that EMG's produce all the time. I just gotta keep working on the playing.
    Was getting MOP at speed with all downpicking last night for the first time in a while. Too much gym work in the last year had destroyed all my fast-twitch muscle, and I'm just getting it back.
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    lucylespian wrote:
    Was getting MOP at speed with all downpicking last night for the first time in a while. Too much gym work in the last year had destroyed all my fast-twitch muscle, and I'm just getting it back.

    yeah, I've just been starting on "Battery" which I've been putting off for awhile due to the speed and having just learned "Blackened" which is very fast. but so far, it's not that bad. it's fast, but it's pretty repetitive. the solo though appears to be monstrous.
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    MLC2006 wrote:
    yeah, I've just been starting on "Battery" which I've been putting off for awhile due to the speed and having just learned "Blackened" which is very fast. but so far, it's not that bad. it's fast, but it's pretty repetitive. the solo though appears to be monstrous.

    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhh !!

    MOP solos are mostly too fast for me. I can play some of the slower ones, Orion, solo 1 and interlude from MOP, but teh faster ones kill me.
    They are virtuoso speed. Maybe in my next life. I'm working on the lst one form Puppets, but it will be another year at least before I get that, if then.

    There's always a tricky bit. My wife has a Metallica instruction DVD form drums, and it breaks down some of the Battery riffs in there. They are really fast and complex. The guitar part is simple by comparision, just a reckless gallop. She got a set of Ahead "Lars" sticks today, and promptly spilt her first drum head, 2 ply skins for her from now on.

    I loaned my AJFA book a while ago, and judst got it back, so I haven't looked aat those songs for a while, except One which I know off by heart, except the tricky bit in the solo of course.

    Actually, I think a lot of the better guitar on Rolling Stones that I like was actually Mick Taylor. Listening to Sticky Fingers a few days ago, and really enjoyed that. I read it was Taylor on a 'burst.
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  • Pre
    Pre Posts: 17
    Pearl Jam and toast wrote:
    That's not really what I meant. Morello invented (or at least popularized and capitalized on) some really cool techniques - which was great. He deserves to be remembered for it. But that doesn't put him in the same leauge as Hendrix or Page (among others). They're remembered not only for the great music and amazing musicianship, but for influence.

    If Morello would actually utilize his potential and venture outside of the same 5th and 7th fret cock rock and tired, fifteen year old tricks he could leave a real legacy.

    Morello's written more than just "5th and 7th fret cock rock." While this is true with Rage, he really expanded musically with Audioslave. He does a lot of interesting and different things on the Audioslave albums. You also have to consider his acoustic stuff.

    He's more than a one-trick pony.
  • DiRtyFranK38
    DiRtyFranK38 Posts: 3,131
    Pre wrote:
    Morello's written more than just "5th and 7th fret cock rock." While this is true with Rage, he really expanded musically with Audioslave. He does a lot of interesting and different things on the Audioslave albums. You also have to consider his acoustic stuff.

    He's more than a one-trick pony.

    i completely agree with you 100%, but i also can understand what pearl jam and toast is saying. tom morello is one of those love em or hate em, take it or leave it, kind of players. for me, he can do that same cock rock shit with wacky solos over and over and i will still think he is fantastic. whatever it is, it always sounds great. but i do agree with you. half of the people like us think he is genious and the other half think he is very repetitive and likes to make noises.
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  • frenchs
    frenchs Posts: 34
    Stone is great, Keith is great, not much of a Metallica fan, so I'll pass on commenting on Hetfield.

    But I got two words for any discussion that centers around riffmeisters....

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  • Jam10
    Jam10 Posts: 654
    Stone is one of my all time favourite guitarists and probably one of the most underated, so in my opinion I would say Stone is the king of riffs! I love Pearl Jam's music and it's obvious that Stone plays a huge part in their material. Mike is also one of my favourite guitarists of all time and I think that Stone and Mike just compliment each other perfectly!
  • Matty Boy
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    If you're talking riffs you've got to include Jimmy Page and Tony Iommi.
  • lucylespian
    lucylespian Posts: 2,403
    Matty Boy wrote:
    If you're talking riffs you've got to include Jimmy Page and Tony Iommi.


    I left Page out because he gets` so much recognition for his lead work. I was thinking of the "other" guitar heros.
    Iommi I know less about, never really got into Sabbath.
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  • keeponrockin
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