a little sick of Les Pauls

MissYouAllDay wrote:

....never PRS ones or any other brands....

PRS Les Pauls? Hmmm....

IMHO, I think Gibson Les Pauls are the premiere rock guitars. The sustain and growl of a LP is pretty much unmatched out-of-the-box. Of course, you could mod a strat, tele, etc., to get a similar tone but that original thick tone and sustain started with a Les Paul and everything else is measured by it. A lot of guitarists use LP's on stage and why not? I have 5 electrics (tele, strat, sg, 2 LPs) and I'm always going to my Standard when I'm not sure what kind of tone I'm looking for for a particular song. I love all my other guitars but my LP's really give me the rock tone I'm looking for, especially for Pearl Jam songs.

you can have my les paul when you pry it out of my cold dead hands.

Les Pauls are used by people who can't play a real guitar. Jimmy Page used a Les Paul because he was sloppy and it covered his mistakes, Jimi Hendrix used a Strat because he could fucking play. Les Pauls are smaller scale and have faster necks making them easier to play, combined with high output pickups and large wood bodies to give that extra sustain the musicians lacks in his fingers. McCready used strats more often back in the day when he could really play, he uses a Les Paul more than ever these days and he really ins't pulling off to many great solo's. There is a reason Hendrix, Clapton, SRV, McCready, Gilmour, Marc Ford, Robin Trower, Keith Richards, Craig Ross use strats and teles......and the list goes on and on

Hiwatt wrote:

Les Pauls are used by people who can't play a real guitar.

umm... ooook. wow. trying to push buttons or are you for real cuz this is ridiculous.

Jimmy Page used a Les Paul because he was sloppy and it covered his mistakes

yah, jp was just full of mistakes. thank god Zepplin didn't amount to anything. huh?

, Jimi Hendrix used a Strat because he could fucking play.

Jimi was arguably one of the most sloppy players amongst your list. Do you live in a cave?

Les Pauls are smaller scale and have faster necks making them easier to play, combined with high output pickups and large wood bodies to give that extra sustain the musicians lacks in his fingers

Oh, I get it. We are suppose to play guitars with less sustain, slower necks, pups with low output. Got it. I guess Vai and Satch play slow-neck Ibanez guitars? Please.

. McCready used strats more often back in the day when he could really play, he uses a Les Paul more than ever these days and he really ins't pulling off to many great solo's. There is a reason Hendrix, Clapton, SRV, McCready, Gilmour, Marc Ford, Robin Trower, Keith Richards, Craig Ross use strats and teles......and the list goes on and on.

So I guess, Les Paul, Slash, Randy Rhodes, Neil Schon, Zakk Wylde, Peter Frampton, Ace Frehley, etc. can't play guitar?

In a world where Gibson sues PRS because they are getting their ass kicked in a once strong market share I'll have to disagree strongly here.

I've never seen more Paul Reed Smith's around than in the past year or so.

The Les Paul is a retorical choice, just as playing a strat or tele or what have you. People play Les Pauls for the tone sound and feel they get out of them, why the hate for a particular style of guitar? Hate Gibson for thier quality issues not the Les Paul for it's brilliance and glory.

Jacksons, Charvels, Kramers, most Ibanez's, ESP's, and many Schecters are not to my liking as I prefer a more rounded neck than a big flat 14 inch radius that Steve Vai and those guys like, that dosen't make it a bad choice either way.

Pete Townsend said he played Les Paul Deluxes not because he didn't know of better guitars, the Les Paul just suited his sound at the time, obviously around 1982 he began playing the black Schecter custom (tele) and now he's playing a Strat.

Hate for the Les Paul is going to get you funny looks from every genre of guitar player.

the 59 Les Paul is one of the finest electric guitars ever produced and the people that worked on it produced countless innovations, I see no reason to throw hate at the Les Paul.

As a player, a carved top PRS McCarty singlecut is more comfortable and lightweight with generally the same tone, but the Les Paul is a classic, I'm not going to fault anyone for playing them, and it certainly dosen't make them "sloppy"

JSP552003 wrote:

can't agree with the topic here. I love Les Pauls. But i can see what you're sayin about people using them too much. I feel the same way you do about those stupid PRS doublecuts. Dont know the real name for them. Just watch any band out today and you'll see what i'm talkin about. Nickelback, Hoobastank, or any band similar always uses them. Basically all the bands I despise use them haha

That's actually the only real reason a PRS has never appealed to me...

They're great guitars, play amazingly well, sound great, and are just really well-built. But they're the pre-requisite for all the nu-metal bands, and as much as I like the guitar, I can't do it. It's like a BMW... great car, but they have that "Bimmer" stigmata.

Hiwatt wrote:

Les Pauls are used by people who can't play a real guitar. Jimmy Page used a Les Paul because he was sloppy and it covered his mistakes, Jimi Hendrix used a Strat because he could fucking play. Les Pauls are smaller scale and have faster necks making them easier to play, combined with high output pickups and large wood bodies to give that extra sustain the musicians lacks in his fingers. McCready used strats more often back in the day when he could really play, he uses a Les Paul more than ever these days and he really ins't pulling off to many great solo's. There is a reason Hendrix, Clapton, SRV, McCready, Gilmour, Marc Ford, Robin Trower, Keith Richards, Craig Ross use strats and teles......and the list goes on and on

:eek:

Hmm,
Off the top of my head,,,Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton in the bluesbreakers and Cream, Jerry Garcia, Pat Martino, Jimmy Bruno, Neil Young, Al Dimeola, John McLaughlin, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Robert Fripp,Bob Marley, Duane Allman, Larry Carlton, Dan Erlewine, Frank Zappa, Mick Taylor, Warren Haynes,Steve Howe, Brian May, Mike Bloomfield, Peter Green, Dickie Betts,Freddie King, may beg to differ there. Ok, maybe a couple of those guys aren't around anymore and won't be upset! I still see Keith Richards yank a few out on stage.

Oh yeah,, and Les Paul might be disappointed to see that his guitars are for sloppy players, too! Check him out every Monday night in NYC. He's 90 and still great!

They're different tools for different players.

Pacomc79 wrote:

maybe his hands and feet have mysteriously revealed BMW emblems who knows.

All you people can go to hell and die.

exhausted wrote:

you can have my les paul when you pry it out of my cold dead hands.

mine too. and it's not even a gibson.

UNDONE*21 wrote:

thats a pretty dumb comment....jimi hendrix, one of the most, if not, the most influential rock musician of all time....he really wasnt 'sloppy'.

Your naive to think he was a technically clean player. At times, he was very sloppy. I never said anything about his influence in music. That is irrelevant to this thread that only non-LP players are great musicians.