a little sick of Les Pauls

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  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    UNDONE*21 wrote:
    thats a pretty dumb comment....jimi hendrix, one of the most, if not, the most influential rock musician of all time....he really wasnt 'sloppy'.


    Jimi's technique was far from great... put him next to Vai, Satriani, Malmstein, etc. he's slow and very sloppy.

    But that's one big example that technique isn't everything.

    Just remember, they may be heroes, but they're not infallible.
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  • UNDONE*21
    UNDONE*21 Posts: 207
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Jimi's technique was far from great... put him next to Vai, Satriani, Malmstein, etc. he's slow and very sloppy.

    But that's one big example that technique isn't everything.

    Just remember, they may be heroes, but they're not infallible.

    understood...thanks for correcting me, influential and technique are entirely different things....keep in mind this though, it may be irrelevant but his style was 'sloppy' sometimes because he never had guitar lesson in his life.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Two words for you all.


    Peter Green.
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    mccreadyisgod wrote:
    Jimi's technique was far from great... put him next to Vai, Satriani, Malmstein, etc. he's slow and very sloppy.

    But that's one big example that technique isn't everything.

    Just remember, they may be heroes, but they're not infallible.

    You must remember that Hendrix was an intuitive, improvisatory musician as well as a virtuoso. When you're playing with an ear to create something that's never been played before, you let your imagination rather than your technique guide you sometimes. Jimi was always looking to try something new.

    Malmsteen plays "rock concertos" with orchestras and, though demonstrating a keen facility in the Slonimksy book of scales and an aptitute at stretch fingering, string skipping and two hand tapping, plays riffs he's crafted to death. His tone is invisible and I don't blame his scalloped fretboard for that. Malmsteen could benefit from being a bit more sloppy in playing a solo that registers something more substantial in terms of art than the 1980s bigger better faster more ethos in his playing.

    Anyway. Back to the main point. Peter Green on a Les Paul = what guitar playing is all about. ;)
  • mccreadyisgod
    mccreadyisgod Bumfuq, MT Posts: 6,395
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    You must remember that Hendrix was an intuitive, improvisatory musician as well as a virtuoso. When you're playing with an ear to create something that's never been played before, you let your imagination rather than your technique guide you sometimes. Jimi was always looking to try something new.

    Malmsteen plays "rock concertos" with orchestras and, though demonstrating a keen facility in the Slonimksy book of scales and an aptitute at stretch fingering, string skipping and two hand tapping, plays riffs he's crafted to death. His tone is invisible and I don't blame his scalloped fretboard for that. Malmsteen could benefit from being a bit more sloppy in playing a solo that registers something more substantial in terms of art than the 1980s bigger better faster more ethos in his playing.


    I own Hendrix albums. I don't own Malmsteen albums.

    The difference, for lack of a better term, is "soul."
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  • All Those Yesterdays
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    Right on MIG

    It doesn't matter what you play, what year it is, what pick-ups it has etc... Its all about the heart and soul you put in it.

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  • who's_pearljam?
    who's_pearljam? Posts: 2,104
    To me, an instrument is a musician's tool to "speak".
    To me, the guitar players that don't move me at all are the ones that do all that fast stuff. I get bored really fast with that stuff when it's over and over..
    The players I've always loved are the ones that are considered "sloppy".
    Really, Stevie Ray, Jimmy Page , Hendrix, early Clapton and Peter Green all move me with the result. Buddy Guy is one of my favorite blues guys and he is always on the edge of disaster when he's live, like Jimmy Page was. That's what I like. It seems like a train wreck just waiting to happen sometimes, live, but they pull themselves out of it just in time, or not,,, but that drama works for me. That's why Hendrix was so great. Same with Zappa. His technique was technically awful, but he came up with some great stuff!
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Yep. And to make the 10 characters count, yep again, though Peter Green teaches us less is more. :cool:
  • xmascleanlove
    xmascleanlove Posts: 55
    Hiwatt wrote:
    Les Pauls are used by people who can't play a real guitar. Jimmy Page used a Les Paul because he was sloppy and it covered his mistakes, Jimi Hendrix used a Strat because he could fucking play. Les Pauls are smaller scale and have faster necks making them easier to play, combined with high output pickups and large wood bodies to give that extra sustain the musicians lacks in his fingers. McCready used strats more often back in the day when he could really play, he uses a Les Paul more than ever these days and he really ins't pulling off to many great solo's. There is a reason Hendrix, Clapton, SRV, McCready, Gilmour, Marc Ford, Robin Trower, Keith Richards, Craig Ross use strats and teles......and the list goes on and on


    holy shit...jimmy page was sloppy? i want you to get the zep dvd and watch page play white summer/black mountainside live...with a guitar other than a les paul i might add...and then i want you to go back and listen to the diversity in sound, tuning, and music that he created...listen to jimmy play an acoustic vs. jimi playing an acoustic...pound for pound there was no comparison to pages diversity...he did not just fucked around with blues scales like hendrix...who was good at what he did...but after about three songs of the same blues scales over and over again it gets old...
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Yep. And to make the 10 characters count, yep again, though Peter Green teaches us less is more. :cool:


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  • Kwyjibo
    Kwyjibo Posts: 662
    people play les pauls because they are simply the best guitars. I play my crappy ibanez and then go to a music store and play a les paul, and it just feels amazing, Gibson is great in general, I love SG's too
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    http://www.matamp.com you'd love a green matamp man.

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    :cool:

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