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  • House53
    House53 Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by JofZ
    my only real complaint about the Mesa F30 is the overdrive (contour channel) I hate it, and would rather use the clean with a tubescreamer. The gain knob has little affect on break up until it hits about 11 oclock, and then it just gets really loud. I usually have to keep the master vol at 7 oclock and the guitar vol at 2 or 3 in order to use the ovedrive channel. If I played on stage then this wouldn't be an issue, but for my house its just worthless.

    The Mesa clean and bright are fantastic and I am sure I would have the same issues with just about every amp out there but the nano, or with an air brake. I refuse to spend $400 on an attenuator for a $799 amp. Going to a 15 watt isn't going to solve my problems either, so maybe I should move :)

    The weber MASS is a great attenuator at a great price... check it out as Pac suggests.
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  • JofZ
    JofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    This is because the contour channel takes out much of the mids in the signal while boosting the higs and lows. This tone cuts very well and is good for solos but it's a more modern tone type preferred by these nu metal kids that like to scoop out the mids to get heavy lows and piercing treble. Tubescreamers provide a rather pronounced midrange (read fat/warm) boost a more vintage flavor.

    J, check out ol Ted Weber's site. He can help you with your dilemma. (MASS)

    http://www.webervst.com


    Yep, you are right the inbetween channel is much better for crunch without total distortion.

    I am a bit concerned about adding any sort of air brake. I hear different things from different people. The easiest solution is to just turn it down and suffer tone loss. I wonder if Mesa will void the warranty if an airbrake is used?

    The weber mod looks interesting, but I will have to do more research.

    I like what Bjorn did on his amp, but he has no plans to offer it as a mod or box. I am sure it wouldn't be cheap either.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    we're not talking mods here J. The Mass is a speaker motor (liner motor, voice coil and magnet). The amp is fooled into believing the speaker in the load box is the speaker in the cabinet. You control the volume with the pot on the top of the box.

    You connect it, via speaker cable inbetween the amp and the speaker. There should be a quarter inch jack that the speaker plugs in to. Nothing there should cause a void in the warranty. Besides Mesa Boogie are the Arlen Ness of Amp Mods in the guitar world.

    You could always give them a call.

    My Mini Mass cost 50 bucks.

    You lose a bit of high end but it does allow you to run the amp as high as you want while harmlessly dumping that extra volume you don't need.

    I of course prefer it without but the neighbors insist I use it.
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  • JofZ
    JofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    we're not talking mods here J. The Mass is a speaker motor (liner motor, voice coil and magnet). The amp is fooled into believing the speaker in the load box is the speaker in the cabinet. You control the volume with the pot on the top of the box.

    You connect it, via speaker cable inbetween the amp and the speaker. There should be a quarter inch jack that the speaker plugs in to. Nothing there should cause a void in the warranty. Besides Mesa Boogie are the Arlen Ness of Amp Mods in the guitar world.

    You could always give them a call.

    My Mini Mass cost 50 bucks.

    You lose a bit of high end but it does allow you to run the amp as high as you want while harmlessly dumping that extra volume you don't need.

    I of course prefer it without but the neighbors insist I use it.


    I got ya, and for 50 bucks I guess you can't go wrong. The sound still comes from the cab, right? What would happen if the motor were to fail while plugged in? Laslty, how hard do you think I will be able to push it with the motor? I can't really go above 25% now without shaking windows.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by JofZ
    I got ya, and for 50 bucks I guess you can't go wrong. The sound still comes from the cab, right? What would happen if the motor were to fail while plugged in? Laslty, how hard do you think I will be able to push it with the motor? I can't really go above 25% now without shaking windows.


    I don't think you understand. It's a linear motor. (a speaker magnet and voice coil no speaker, the amp can't tell the difference between that and the actual speaker) You can push it as hard as you want. you adjust with the volume pot on top just make sure you order the proper Ohm version for your amp (I think it's 8 ohms)

    The signal goes first into the MASS. The signal from the mass goes into your speaker and to your ears. Output volume is controlled by the pot on the box.


    Amp---MiniMASS----Speaker.
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  • JofZ
    JofZ Posts: 1,276
    I just read the faq and understand what it does. There are some options which might be worth it down the road. Do I need to order the 25 or 50 for the 30? Also, does there need to be a certain amount of space between the motor and the cab?
    Thanks again for the help :)
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by JofZ
    I just read the faq and understand what it does. There are some options which might be worth it down the road. Do I need to order the 25 or 50 for the 30? Also, does there need to be a certain amount of space between the motor and the cab?
    Thanks again for the help :)


    Well, it's a 30 watt amp. I'd get the 30 so it attenuates your amp properly. I ordered a custom 15 watt 16 Ohm for my little Orange. Works great I just wish the leeds were longer because my connections are way up inside the amp but you should be fine since yours are on the back.

    you can sit the attenuator on top it's about perfect for that.
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  • JofZ
    JofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    Well, it's a 30 watt amp. I'd get the 30 so it attenuates your amp properly. I ordered a custom 15 watt 16 Ohm for my little Orange. Works great I just wish the leeds were longer because my connections are way up inside the amp but you should be fine since yours are on the back.

    you can sit the attenuator on top it's about perfect for that.

    yeah, they only have a 25 listed, then it jumps to a 50. They will make a custom 30?
    I still think the nano would have been the way to go if I had to do it again. Something to be said for simple.
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    Originally posted by JofZ
    yeah, they only have a 25 listed, then it jumps to a 50. They will make a custom 30?
    I still think the nano would have been the way to go if I had to do it again. Something to be said for simple.


    yeah could be. Just E-mail Ted and tell him what you want he can do it.
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  • JofZ
    JofZ Posts: 1,276
    Originally posted by Pacomc79
    yeah could be. Just E-mail Ted and tell him what you want he can do it.
    will do, thanks again.
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