Open Letter to Mr. Vedder
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seagoat2 wrote:Hey, Mr. Bruno.....I had a teacher in jr. high school who also had us look into song lyrics in poetry class.....I really loved it. I think it's great what you're doing. I never forgot that teacher.....I guess I was lucky, I had a lot of great teachers. In high school, one of my creative writing teachers even lent me his big book of Bob Dylan song lyrics.....he was a great guy.
seagoat2,
It's those great guys that we remember the most. When teachers make the time to make that personal connection with a student, we revalue that child. Sometimes, that's the only value the child has ever had. Some students come from tragic backgrounds.
Something as simple as using "modern" songs as poetry is a great, non-threatening way to introduce literary devices: metaphor, symbolism, mood, tone, etc.
Sometimes, a song can open a door that a textbook may have kept shut.
Just my 2 cents.
Mr. BrunoDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
mateo wrote:Dear naive people..
Ok Mr. Bruno is trying really hard and is a good teacher.
But all of you who fell for that -that he got a response from Eddie and are now obviously congratulating him..I've got a question..Why didn't he post the damn letter or at least write down..Hey just got a mail back from Eddie?? Because is a lie..and by posting it Kat and Sea would know it..Why posting everybody PM..ow I've got a response..It really isn't a big deal different from posting it in the thread..after all it will complete the thread...
So if it's true..don't sing it bring it...
Posting another's email without permission is underhanded.
In addition, your tone/word choice makes you seems so bitter: naive, fell for it, damn letter, lie, etc. Why the rancour? What fuels your discontent? Why can't you enjoy the feel-good moment? I didn't get free concert tickets. I didn't get free CD's. I didn't ask for money from PJ. PJ didn't buy me a 2nd house. I only got a response. Why not take it at face value and enjoy the synergy?Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
Restless Soul wrote:Mr Bruno
Your post and work with young people is really inspiring to read, and the interpretation of Black that you and the kids came up with. I think you are right in getting the kids to come up with their own interpretations because their views are just as valid as anyones.
I've read most of this thread, (not all) and the thing that worries me, and I know its been mentioned before, is the fact that you are hoping that Eddie will contact the kids. I really really hope he does, for your and the kids' sake but I remember reading an interview with Eddie from the early days where he said he didn't explain his songs but was always interested in hearing other people's interpretations. If he does contact you be prepared for the fact that he still might not explain the song. It's his prerogative not to. Also, I hope you haven't told the kids you are trying to contact him because it could set them up for a fall. They should be aware that their own interpretations are just as valid, to them anyway. That way they can learn that there isn't always a "right" or "wrong" answer, especially in poetry, but there are many shades of grey in between, and all of them could be equally valid. And that debating the rights and wrongs of a line and justifying it is part of the fun.
You talk about wanting to "save" the children and I think this is really commendable. I think you are already doing this by your work in teaching them to think and analyse things for themselves and allowing them to get exposed to good literature.
As for preventing them from getting into drugs or pregnancy or drop out of school, that takes a whole lot more work than an English teacher can deliver - are you sure you are not cut out to be a youth worker instead? :P I think those things can be combatted by raising awareness and education. Maybe exposure to an inspiring celebrity can help too, so good luck with that!
Anyway, what I really wanted to suggest is that if you are looking for another work of Eddie's I'd suggest Sleight of Hand from the Binaural album. I love this because to me it is about alienation and being lost from yourself, being a small cog in a big wheel, and then finding the power in yourself to change an unhappy situation in your life. To me its about self-empowerment - maybe something else the kids could learn about?(I also second the Present Tense suggestion!)
routine was the theme, he'd wake up and...wash and pour himself into uniform
something he hadn't imagined being...
as the merging traffic passed, he found himself staring, down, at his own hands..
not remembering the change, not recalling the plan, was it...?
he was okay, but wondering about wandering
was it age? by consequence? or was he moved by sleight of hand?
mondays were made to fall, lost on a road he knew by heart
it was like a book he read in his sleep, endlessly...
sometimes he hid in his radio, watching others pull into their homes
while he was drifting...
on a line, of his own, off the line, on the side
by the by, as dirt turned to sand, as if moved by sleight of hand
when he reached the shore of his clip-on world
he resurfaced to the norm
organized his few things, his coat and keys...
any new realizations would have to wait til he had more time, more time...
time to dream, to himself
he waves goodbye, to himself
i'll see you on the other side...
another man...moved by sleight of hand...
Check for a PM. : )
Mr. BrunoDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
MarylandTeacher wrote:Check for a PM. : )
Mr. BrunoA pessimist is a man who thinks all women are bad. An optimist is one who hopes they are.0 -
3inputchick wrote:tell me about this PM you keep sending out....
Doh!
I was talking to Restless Soul. I just sent her a PM.
Perhaps I should have been more specific.
Sorry for the confusion!Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
CRAWLDAD wrote:well, first let me say that this is a great idea n probably a great way to reach out to a misguided youth..
what did the children say when they heard the song?????
did any of them search for more lyrics by PJ?
all in all --- very greatful to read a great post
thanks, n keep on rockin!!!!
Overall, they really liked the song. They appreciated Black's sad mood/tone.Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
This thread gives me a kind of dejá-vu ;-). Interesting.
Back in 2001 it was my English teacher in Germany who introduced me to Pearl Jam by playing and discussing "Wishlist" in class. Good to know that there are other teachers out there like that.0 -
AndiM wrote:This thread gives me a kind of dejá-vu ;-). Interesting.
Back in 2001 it was my English teacher in Germany who introduced me to Pearl Jam by playing and discussing "Wishlist" in class. Good to know that there are other teachers out there like that.
AndiM,
I'll have to check out "Wishlist." The Message Pit has introduced me to so many PJ songs that I had not been familiar with. I'll have to check it out.
Mr. BrunoDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
I hope Vedder somehow reads your post.
I can't wait to play some bootleg in the future and hear Vedder go: "Ehm... there's a... a.. a teacher in Maryland.. And she ehm... wrote us all an open letter, maybe you've read it on the website. And ehm... and she teaches our next song to her students, and they break it down to analyze the poetry in it ... .... etcetera "
"Ransom paid the Devil, he whispers pleasing words.
Triumphant are the angels if they can get there first."0 -
well im in eighth grade right, and on friday my english teacher told us we are going to do poetry this week and to bring in our favorite lyrics so we could compare it to poetry and whatnot. anyways, i ended up printing the lyrics to black and the letter taht you wrote and asked her to read it. Today she came up to me and told me how much she loved your explanation and that she'll prolly will use it in class when we do the lyrics (i think tomorrow or thursday...)
btw i had like the hardest time choosing my favorite! haha i ended up choosing Sad (fav. song) Come Back and Indifference (ive been having a 'must listen to these songs' phase lately...)www.myspace.com/saveyou230 -
Congrats, Mr. Bruno on getting a response.
I am not surprised that Mr. Vedder got in touch with you. Another feather in the cap of a great artist if you ask me
You both have inspired me as a teacher.
My respect for this band only depends with age.
Hats off to you and your students. Sounds like the '06-07 school year has been a true success!0 -
ChrisD wrote:I hope Vedder somehow reads your post.
I can't wait to play some bootleg in the future and hear Vedder go: "Ehm... there's a... a.. a teacher in Maryland.. And she ehm... wrote us all an open letter, maybe you've read it on the website. And ehm... and she teaches our next song to her students, and they break it down to analyze the poetry in it ... .... etcetera "
Chris,
I did hear one version of "The Long Road" that included a personal dedication from EV to one of his former teachers. Unfortunately, the dedication was given posthumously. While it would be flattering to be recognized, I don't want to have to die to be recognized.
But if he recognized anyone, then I would want him to recognize my students....they rock!
MattDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
who_doesnt_like_pj wrote:well im in eighth grade right, and on friday my english teacher told us we are going to do poetry this week and to bring in our favorite lyrics so we could compare it to poetry and whatnot. anyways, i ended up printing the lyrics to black and the letter taht you wrote and asked her to read it. Today she came up to me and told me how much she loved your explanation and that she'll prolly will use it in class when we do the lyrics (i think tomorrow or thursday...)
btw i had like the hardest time choosing my favorite! haha i ended up choosing Sad (fav. song) Come Back and Indifference (ive been having a 'must listen to these songs' phase lately...)
who_doesnt_like_pj,
I'm honored that your teacher would be willing to use my explanation in her class. That's the beauty of teaching. Not only are teachers in a position to spark students, they are also in a position to spark other teachers.
That rocks!
MattDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
OneLove wrote:Congrats, Mr. Bruno on getting a response.
I am not surprised that Mr. Vedder got in touch with you. Another feather in the cap of a great artist if you ask me
You both have inspired me as a teacher.
My respect for this band only depends with age.
Hats off to you and your students. Sounds like the '06-07 school year has been a true success!
The '06-07 school year was a long, crazy, wild ride. It left me exhausted, but I wouldn't trade a minute of it for the world.
I'm looking forward to using "Black" next year as well. I'll take the best parts of the poetry unit and keep them. I'll look at what worked, what didn't work, and why. Next year, I'll pour out even more passion than I did this year. But I don't think that I'll do another Open Letter to Mr. Vedder during the 2007-2008. I don't want to pester him.
But wouldn't it be great if he just happened to be in Western Maryland on business? And wouldn't it be great if he stopped by the school for 5 minutes while we were doing the poetry unit? And would it be great if he treated one of my classes to a few stanzas of Black, telling the kids to always reach for the stars?
But, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride. : )
Such are the ebbs and flows of life....
Matt BrunoDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
MarylandTeacher wrote:The '06-07 school year was a long, crazy, wild ride. It left me exhausted, but I wouldn't trade a minute of it for the world.
I'm looking forward to using "Black" next year as well. I'll take the best parts of the poetry unit and keep them. I'll look at what worked, what didn't work, and why. Next year, I'll pour out even more passion than I did this year. But I don't think that I'll do another Open Letter to Mr. Vedder during the 2007-2008. I don't want to pester him.
But wouldn't it be great if he just happened to be in Western Maryland on business? And wouldn't it be great if he stopped by the school for 5 minutes while we were doing the poetry unit? And would it be great if he treated one of my classes to a few stanzas of Black, telling the kids to always reach for the stars?
But, if wishes were horses, then beggars would ride. : )
Such are the ebbs and flows of life....
Matt Bruno
All of those things would be wonderful... and, as an aside, should that happen I do live in NoVa, I could be there in a flashI'm kidding!
Seriously though, I think what has already happened is perfection.0 -
OneLove wrote:All of those things would be wonderful... and, as an aside, should that happen I do live in NoVa, I could be there in a flash
I'm kidding!
Seriously though, I think what has already happened is perfection.
Hagerstown isn't too far from NoVa. However, I don't think that Mr. EV would announce any school visit in advance.....not like he would ever show up at my school, unannounced, and sing "Black." I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one--blue's not my color. : )
But, wouldn't that be the ultimate feel-good moment for my students? One can only imagine what kind of impact that could have on the lives of next year's students. What if one felt inspired by "Black" and ended up being the doctor who cured cancer? Of the scientist who changed the face of agriculture?
The gods own haughty laughter echoes in our dreams!
Matt BrunoDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
MarylandTeacher wrote:Hagerstown isn't too far from NoVa. However, I don't think that Mr. EV would announce any school visit in advance.....not like he would ever show up at my school, unannounced, and sing "Black." I'm not gonna hold my breath on that one--blue's not my color. : )
But, wouldn't that be the ultimate feel-good moment for my students? One can only imagine what kind of impact that could have on the lives of next year's students. What if one felt inspired by "Black" and ended up being the doctor who cured cancer? Of the scientist who changed the face of agriculture?
The gods own haughty laughter echoes in our dreams!
Matt Bruno
Yes, it certainly would be inspirational to say the least. My comment about "being there in a flash" was purely sarcastic (and off color, perhaps)It would diminish a genuine interaction.. and is probably a great example of why Ed dosn't entertain offers like yours. Although if there were ever a worthy exception...
Thanks for sharing this with all of us.0 -
OneLove wrote:Yes, it certainly would be inspirational to say the least. My comment about "being there in a flash" was purely sarcastic (and off color, perhaps)
It would diminish a genuine interaction.. and is probably a great example of why Ed dosn't entertain offers like yours. Although if there were ever a worthy exception...
Thanks for sharing this with all of us.
I never got the kids' expectations up. I told them not to expect a free concert. And we didn't. No one ran from the classroom to the guidance office, screaming about the unfairness of it all.
All in all, the year is ending on a very high note. I'm just glad that the kids now have a stronger appreciation for music, lyrics, poetry, and literary devices.
MattDalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0 -
That is just amazing! Well done! The world should have more teachers like you! Rock has so much to teach our children and also in a funny way. TEACHERS, take Mr Bruno as an example, you'd be less frustrated!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT! I am sure even Ed would be flattered!"Come on people now, smile on your brother and everybody get together, try to love one another right now!!!!"
"You my friend, I will defend and if we change, well I love you anyway"
"I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the in between is mine, I AM MINE"0 -
Tiziana wrote:That is just amazing! Well done! The world should have more teachers like you! Rock has so much to teach our children and also in a funny way. TEACHERS, take Mr Bruno as an example, you'd be less frustrated!!
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT! I am sure even Ed would be flattered!
Thank you, tiziana,
By chance, does anyone have a link to the 2007 Madrid version of "Black" where EV sings the new tag regarding
"What could have been
What could have been....
I could be there, you could be there
but I'm here, I'm here with my fans
I'm hear with my band....
I don't care anymore, I don't care anymore..."
Anyone?Dalai Lama—To say that humility is an essential ingredient in our pursuit of spiritual transformation may seem to be at odds with what I have said about the need for confidence. But there is clearly a distinction to be made between valid confidence or self-esteem, and conceit - which we can describe as an inflated sense of importance, grounded in a false image of self.0
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